i think this rule is for monks?Originally posted by monkeybusiness:i thought buddhist are not even supposed to consume meat at all?![]()
ya..i missed out the word "monk"..sorryOriginally posted by gamesharkuser:i think this rule is for monks?
Thought the story was the Guan Yin father was reborn to ox. therefore they don't eat beef.Originally posted by aHGer^83:i tink it's cos in the past, cows, bulls, buffalos have been working for us. thus those who pray to Goddess of Mercy r not suppose to consume beef. we r suppose to respect them instead n thank them for working hard for us. thus, by not consuming beef is a way of repaying their kindness.
by not consuming meat is cos every aninamls,, any animals cld be ur family memebers once in the past. cld be ur last lifetime's parents or even ur child. thus some beleif dat by not consuming meat, is a way of respecting them.
but nw cows r reared to be eaten right??lol... nw mostly all use machine liaoOriginally posted by aHGer^83:i tink it's cos in the past, cows, bulls, buffalos have been working for us. thus those who pray to Goddess of Mercy r not suppose to consume beef. we r suppose to respect them instead n thank them for working hard for us. thus, by not consuming beef is a way of repaying their kindness.
by not consuming meat is cos every aninamls,, any animals cld be ur family memebers once in the past. cld be ur last lifetime's parents or even ur child. thus some beleif dat by not consuming meat, is a way of respecting them.
The custom of not eating beef is linked with Hinduism and Chinese folks culture. Because they do not forget the hard work that cows have helped in their agriculture. And also, the Hindus treat cows as holy animals.And also to clarify: the tradition of not eating meat is not found in all traditions, whether Theravada, Mahayana, or Vajrayana. Please don't confuse Chinese folks traditions with Mahayana Buddhism just because both seems 'Chinese'
Actually Buddha did not particularly single out beef as not to be eaten. However, those who choose to eat meat should eat meat under only three conditions:
did not see the killing, did not hear the killing, and do not suspect that they were killed.
In this way, the meat is karmically purer.
Originally posted by Iker-X-of-Bodh:So it is 100% a myth that Buddhist cannot take beef.
I'm gonna get that Big MAc at McDonalds and eat it infront of the camera and upload it into utube if you wish to see...
So to say, those who aspire to be bodhisattvas must be vegetarian. It is only particularly in the Mahayana sutras that vegetarianism is promoted... but Buddha never made a law to prevent his Sangha from consuming meat. In fact, he rejected Devadatta (his disciple who wanted to kill 4 four times) advise to make it a law to be vegetarian.Originally posted by sinweiy:actually southern Buddhist monks(theravadin tradition) and Tibetan lamas (vajrayana tradition) can eat meat, while Northern monks of the Mahayana Tradition from China, Japan, Korea are not allow.
Theravada monks are forbidden to eat raw meat or fish, as well as
> the flesh of humans, elephants, horses, dogs, snakes, lions, tigers,
> leopards, bears, hyenas, and panthers. See the description of "staple
> foods" in chapter 8 of The Buddhist Monastic Code. A monk who eats
> any of those kinds of meat commits an offense that he must confess to
> his fellow monks.
> http://www.accesstoinsight.org/bfaq.html#veggie
>
> ---
> vegetarianism are very strict for bodhisattvahood though. (maybe up
> to the l0th bhumi.)
>
> There are many Mahayana sutras on not eating meat. Ven Hai Tao has
> consolidated them but it is in chinese. but at least we can get a
> picture of the number of sutras.
> http://bookgb.bfnn.org/books2/1863.htm
>
> one of which:
> <>says:
>
> "Further more, Mahamati, in order to turn the worlds into pure Buddha-
> worlds, in which all living beings can be enlightened, Bodhisattvas
> should not eat meat. They should discern that all meats are like the
> dead bodies of human being, we cannot even bear looking at or
> smelling them, how could we put them into our mouths? Mahamati, the
> burned dead bodies are mephitic and feculent, the cooked meats are as
> mephitic and feculent as the burned dead bodies, so how could we eat
> such things? Therefore, Mahamati, in order to turn the worlds into
> pure Buddha-worlds, to enlighten all living beings, Bodhisattvas
> should not eat meat."
> ....
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
So to say, those who aspire to be bodhisattvas must be vegetarian. It is only particularly in the Mahayana sutras that vegetarianism is promoted... but Buddha never made a law to prevent his Sangha from consuming meat. In fact, he rejected Devadatta (his disciple who wanted to kill 4 four times) advise to make it a law to be vegetarian.[/b]
Erm, I think the Buddha was not eating meat when he attained Buddhahood isnt it. But thats not to mean he is not all compassionate and merciful isnt it.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:If that's the case, then I strongly believe it is Buddha's intent to lead the Sravaka disciples to the Mahayana path.
I think this issue might be a little controversial and differs from tradition. I also dont think that simply because one eats meat, it means he is of little attainment. But a bodhisattva with great compassion would generally not eat meat. And if I become a monk, I would certainly become vegetarian.
There are variations. It is widely known however, that Buddha did not eat meat, and certainly did not die from eating pork - but mushrooms.Originally posted by marcteng:Erm, I think the Buddha was not eating meat when he attained Buddhahood isnt it. But thats not to mean he is not all compassionate and merciful isnt it.
Not sure if the buddha got say when he was a bodhisattva, was he entirely vegetarian when practising the paramitas?