thnks 4 sharingOriginally posted by supa_naga:Well, I don't restrict myself to Nichiren Shu as I am Sakyamuni-based, not Nichiren-based. But I do have my respect to Nichiren Shonin for his missionary zeal to propagate the original & true teachings of Lord Sakyamuni Buddha in 13th century Japan when the Buddhism then was very messy & people virtually forgotten whom Sakyamuni Buddha is.
Anyway, other than attending morning service & sermon session on Sun's @ Nichiren Shu, I also attend Dhamma class @ Mahaprajna Buddhist Society on Tues evenings & go to Buddha Dhamma Mandala Society (BDMS) for their Scripture Study & Discussion with Ven. S. Dhammaika on Fri nites.
Btw, FYI I attended a rare Dhamma seminar by Missionary Minister Chen Ming An (Chen2 Ming2 An1 Chuan2 Jiao4 Shi4) in Mar on one of the Sat's @ Jen Chen Activity Centre, too.
Cool... well teacher.chen gave two talks, first one at activity centre, second one is actually at my dharma centre.. but we cldnt go to the first one bcos too crowded, so my side is asked not to go - the vcd will be played in future. So I wasnt thereOriginally posted by supa_naga:Btw, FYI I attended a rare Dhamma seminar by Missionary Minister Chen Ming An (Chen2 Ming2 An1 Chuan2 Jiao4 Shi4) in Mar on one of the Sat's @ Jen Chen Activity Centre, too.
THE GOHONZON IS NOT THE LOTUS SUTRA.Originally posted by dork3d:When priest Nichiren brought back the whole set of Lotus Sutra scriptures from China back to Japan, much of the scriptures were lost in the sea due to rough sea conditions and he barely made it back. Based on what was remained in his case, he translated the remaining of the Lotus Sutra into Gohonzon
This shows that you do not understand the teachings or practices of other Buddhist traditions other than your own.Originally posted by Spirit of Fire:Those thinking that they will be born in whatever Pure Land, then expect the people pray to you, is a totally selfish & self-centred thinking & mindset.
Answer this extremely simple question, which is more noble:
1) Reborn in whatever Pure Land, enjoy paradise & shake leg?
or
2) Volunteer to reborn in this world again in order to help the people who are suffering?
The Aspect of Return to this World]By the way, those who wish to be reborn in the Pure Land do not expect people to pray to them. From these quotes show that those who are born in the Pure Land DO return to the Saha world to deliver other beings, not just stay there and "shake legs".
Second is Amida's directing of virtue for our return to this world. This is the benefit we receive, the state of benefiting and guiding others. It arises from the Vow of necessary attainment of the rank of succession to Buddhahood, also know as "the Vow of succession to Buddhahood after one lifetime." It may further be called "the Vow of directing virtue for our return to this world." Since this Vow appears in the Commentary on the Treatise, I will not quote it here; see the passages from the Commentary [that follow].
[Vasubandhu]
The Treatise on the Pure Land states:
Concerning "the fifth gate of emergence": With great compassion, one observes all sentient beings in pain and affliction, and assuming various transformed bodies to guide them, enters the gardens of birth-and-death and the forests of blind passions; freely sporting there with transcendent powers, one attains the state of teaching and guiding. This is brought about by the directing of virtue through the power of the Primal Vow; it is called "the fifth gate of emergence."
[T'an-luan]
The Commentary on the Treatise states:
"Directing virtue for return to this world" means that after being born in that land, fulfilling samatha and vipasyana, and gaining the power of compassionate means, one returns and enters the thick forests of birth-and-death, teaches and guides all sentient beings, and brings all to enter the Buddha-way together. Whether with regard to the aspect for going forth or the aspect for return, all is entirely for the sake of bringing sentient beings across the ocean of birth-and-death. Thus it is stated, "It is to fulfil the mind of great compassion, taking the directing of virtue as foremost."
err...pls relax broOriginally posted by bohiruci:Tell me ,Mr Spirit of Fire , Why does a religion like SGI needs to set up a Political Party in Japan to involve in politics .
The Political Party in Japan (Kai ming to ) what is it use as ?
Why are funds channel to the Japanese Political Party ?
Why are Politics and Religion muddling in each other ?
I feel your outright challenge to slander the Pureland ,your future Buddhaland seems pathetic ,I pity your one-time fiery attempt to take on other school without thinking you are lowering your own dignity
So does SGI taught you all this ???? To denigrate other and promote your school ??
Nah , I dun see your agenda being heard and please back off if you want to slap any school .
History have seen so much of your black radical SGI movement and your recalcitrant atitude doesnt seem to have any effect on tearing the Unity of Mahayana Faith in totality .
Just wonder any righteous SGI member in the forum willing to speak up and said something against this dissonant postings of SGI
You will not , and shall not suceed in your futile attempt ,becos this just show how much the saying goes
"Empty vessels makes the most noise "
Originally posted by Isis:hmm...maybe i should put it tis way.How could someone claim to be a christian when one does not recongise jesus as the saviour? So how could someone claim to be a buddhist when one does not recongise Buddha as the teacher ?
think spirit of fire does not understand why soka isn't considered buddhism despite all the good things they have promoted.
[b]REALLY I ABSOLUTE DO NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THAT PROMOTING PEACE, CULTURE & EDUCATION IS UNORTHODOX??? posted by spirit of fire
from his posting soka in singapore has tried to promote peace, culure and education to benefit others.. which is a good thing right?
erm... but soka also has a dark history of violent. Even till now, the actions of current president of soka are still very much in questioned. I still don't understand why pay homage to the president in the chanting book and instead not homage to the buddha.
Even with all the good things they are trying to promote, the organisation does not have recongise Buddha as the teacher and thus are not being recongised as buddhism.
And i hope that spirit of fire now understand that pureland teaching is more than what he thinks it is. i think u should read up more on the other teachings and rather based on your understanding on your religion to have a deeper understanding.
May all have peace and happiness.
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that i agree...they are used 2 be called "nikken sect" but now since their high priest stepped down diff story liao....they are in this for the $$$...which is sadOriginally posted by dork3d:Me and my dad are members of Singapore Soka Association.
Your definitions on the sects are quite right, it's just that there are always black sheeps that spoilt the image of the Buddhism. Actually SSA is a recognised member of the Buddhism community in Singapore.
As for Nichiren Shoshu, there are a few offspringed sects that practised otherwise different from what me practised. We chant the Lotus Script in Japanese whereas they don't. They also practised more towards Materialism which in Buddhism we are taught in forgiveness and non-materialism.
You may find some members outright disgusting from Nichiren and me as member we are ashamed by what they do. Diversely we were from the same root and practise the same fundamental of Buddha teachings, just that they strayed away from the mainstream.
As for our President of SSA, he's not our spiritual leader and as a matter of fact, he's more like a coordinator and regulator of the Association throughout the SEA region. Our belief is very much still the basic understandings and lessons to be learned from Buddhism.
Well, I am not against nor hate Soka for in regards to their manner in observance of Buddhist practice, although I personally do not always agree with their particular methods or style of propagation, I must say that it is wonderful that they teach people to chant the Lotus Sutra and Odaimoku of Namu Myoho Renge Kyo. What is important to remember is that you have met the Lotus Sutra and that you are embracing faith right now. It is because of your relationship with the Buddha (called "en" in Buddhist terminology) in the past that you have been able to encounter the Lotus Sutra today. For this you should be grateful to whoever introduced you to the Lotus Sutra and the testimonial teachings of Nichiren Shonin.Originally posted by dork3d:
Me and my dad are members of Singapore Soka Association.
Your definitions on the sects are quite right, it's just that there are always black sheeps that spoilt the image of the Buddhism. Actually SSA is a recognised member of the Buddhism community in Singapore.
As for Nichiren Shoshu, there are a few offspringed sects that practised otherwise different from what me practised. We chant the Lotus Script in Japanese whereas they don't. They also practised more towards Materialism which in Buddhism we are taught in forgiveness and non-materialism.
You may find some members outright disgusting from Nichiren and me as member we are ashamed by what they do. Diversely we were from the same root and practise the same fundamental of Buddha teachings, just that they strayed away from the mainstream.
As for our President of SSA, he's not our spiritual leader and as a matter of fact, he's more like a coordinator and regulator of the Association throughout the SEA region. Our belief is very much still the basic understandings and lessons to be learned from Buddhism.[/quote]
[quote]Originally posted by AE86tofu:that i agree...they are used 2 be called "nikken sect" but now since their high priest stepped down diff story liao....they are in this for the $$$...which is sad