I agree entirely on point one, Buddhists are facing this problem due to ignorance, most Buddhist will have no problem identifying such sects if they had take up sometime to read from scriptures or attended Buddhism classes. It's really upsets me a lot when some sect claim to be genuine Buddhism but the methods or whatever scripture they have tends to differ or distorted Buddhism teaching...it's really a sad thing don't you think?Originally posted by justdoit77:1) Mutation of buddhism
Buddhism has many traditions like Theravada, Mahayana, Vajrayana. As it goes, some new sects appear and doesn't seem like genuine buddhism, eg. falungong. Although claiming themselves as buddhism, but their teaching is either contradicting with original buddhism teaching or they don't treat sakyamuni buddha as the founder.
It is important that when we want to cultivate, we should seek a reliable and at least a dharma center which is recognized by the mainstream buddhism.
2) Second thing I find is we buddhists don't have a a tight cohesion. A good example of muslim is every friday, they will go to mosques to pray, they really treat it as part of their life. Mosques has become a place for them to socialize, maintain their faith and unity as well as exchange knowledge.
But when I look at we buddhists, I can only shake my head. Is it bcoz our scripture is so deep and profound that we can ignore all the social factors. In this aspect, we need to learn from the muslim.
3) 3rd is middle path in cultivation. To ensure healthy cultivation in long term, we need to have faith, understanding of dharma, practise and some social factors. It seems to me that many people don't balance up among these few points. Some people only have faith, every week go bugis burn josstick, but their dharma knowledge is empty, when asked about why not join christian, they also don't know how to debut. Social factors also very important, in the past there are many dharma tragedy happened (some monks are forced to go back as layman), just bcoz of the lack of it. A temple should have activities which can attract youngster, otherwise very soon all the dharma like karma, precepts, selfless will be lost in humanity.
4) Last is Bodhichitta.
The reason why mahayana buddhism in china flourished for so long is also because of bodhichitta, they are willing to take up their precious time to spread the dharma to layman people.
Some buddhist has a wrong perception that they don't need to preach to other people simply bcoz buddhism is precious. What a wrong concept. After buddha attain ultimate enlightenment, he went to preach the 5 bikkhus, not the 5 bikkhus come to buddha. Buddha knows sentient beings don't have the wisdom to seek the truth.
Some like to emphasize on self liberation. They are not enlightened yet but isolate themselves from the crowd, just stay alone meditating and reading books. The danger of doing so is, when he take the wrong step, no one will correct him.
These are my 2 cents. Comments welcome.
Agreed on all the points.Originally posted by justdoit77:1) Mutation of buddhism
Buddhism has many traditions like Theravada, Mahayana, Vajrayana. As it goes, some new sects appear and doesn't seem like genuine buddhism, eg. falungong. Although claiming themselves as buddhism, but their teaching is either contradicting with original buddhism teaching or they don't treat sakyamuni buddha as the founder.
It is important that when we want to cultivate, we should seek a reliable and at least a dharma center which is recognized by the mainstream buddhism.
2) Second thing I find is we buddhists don't have a a tight cohesion. A good example of muslim is every friday, they will go to mosques to pray, they really treat it as part of their life. Mosques has become a place for them to socialize, maintain their faith and unity as well as exchange knowledge.
But when I look at we buddhists, I can only shake my head. Is it bcoz our scripture is so deep and profound that we can ignore all the social factors. In this aspect, we need to learn from the muslim.
3) 3rd is middle path in cultivation. To ensure healthy cultivation in long term, we need to have faith, understanding of dharma, practise and some social factors. It seems to me that many people don't balance up among these few points. Some people only have faith, every week go bugis burn josstick, but their dharma knowledge is empty, when asked about why not join christian, they also don't know how to debut. Social factors also very important, in the past there are many dharma tragedy happened (some monks are forced to go back as layman), just bcoz of the lack of it. A temple should have activities which can attract youngster, otherwise very soon all the dharma like karma, precepts, selfless will be lost in humanity.
4) Last is Bodhichitta.
The reason why mahayana buddhism in china flourished for so long is also because of bodhichitta, they are willing to take up their precious time to spread the dharma to layman people.
Some buddhist has a wrong perception that they don't need to preach to other people simply bcoz buddhism is precious. What a wrong concept. After buddha attain ultimate enlightenment, he went to preach the 5 bikkhus, not the 5 bikkhus come to buddha. Buddha knows sentient beings don't have the wisdom to seek the truth.
Some like to emphasize on self liberation. They are not enlightened yet but isolate themselves from the crowd, just stay alone meditating and reading books. The danger of doing so is, when he take the wrong step, no one will correct him.
These are my 2 cents. Comments welcome.
Yeah, it is quite sad to know that. Some new sect cling to only one scripture and ignore the teaching of other scriptures totally.Originally posted by apoc.feuer:I agree entirely on point one, Buddhists are facing this problem due to ignorance, most Buddhist will have no problem identifying such sects if they had take up sometime to read from scriptures or attended Buddhism classes. It's really upsets me a lot when some sect claim to be genuine Buddhism but the methods or whatever scripture they have tends to differ or distorted Buddhism teaching...it's really a sad thing don't you think?
Just to add on to point 2-4...in order to resolve such issues, the only hope is that those knowledgeable Buddhists would come forward to teach what is Buddhism is about then...then Buddists will stand a chance and understand how wonderful Buddhism is...I guess we should cultivate ourselves even more in hope that we can pass down such important message to the masses...
Just my 2 cents...
series on life of Buddha Sakyamuni ...quite difficult , becos if we potray only the theravada aspect ,then how abt the teachings of Avalokiteshvara , Medicine Buddha and so on. I dun think it is necessaryOriginally posted by justdoit77:Yeah, it is quite sad to know that. Some new sect cling to only one scripture and ignore the teaching of other scriptures totally.
Sometimes I wonder since sakyamuni buddha is so noble, why is there no series about the story of buddha. That would make a stun in movie industry at the same time teach the crowd the essence of buddhism.
Originally posted by neutral_onliner:Yeah, it is improving especially in terms of quantity.
JOSS STICKS buddhists the[b] weakest link ( know little of their own religion and easy targets of Evangelists )
btw justdoit77...the situation is improving and very positive...
Buddhism making a comeback in ChinaOriginally posted by justdoit77:Yeah, it is improving especially in terms of quantity.
Usually when the quantity increase, some will make it as a living style or habit, and subsequently will superceed practise. We have seen this happened in India and China when the teaching of buddhism reach its peak.
Of coz the collapse of buddhism in India and dharma tragedy happended in china are due to other reasons also.

Originally posted by neutral_onliner:Oh yes thats right... Buddhism is seeing a revival in China. As religious restrictions lightens, more people become interested in seeking spirituality.
[b]Buddhism making a comeback in China
By Hamish McDonald, Herald Correspondent in Beijing
September 21 2002
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/09/20/1032054963313.html
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Documentary : BBC - The Life Of BuddhaOriginally posted by justdoit77:Yeah, it is quite sad to know that. Some new sect cling to only one scripture and ignore the teaching of other scriptures totally.
Sometimes I wonder since sakyamuni buddha is so noble, why is there no series about the story of buddha. That would make a stun in movie industry at the same time teach the crowd the essence of buddhism.

nothing is permanentOriginally posted by concerned_man:I think the problems lie not outside, but inside Buddhist community.
If I am not mistaken, the Buddha did say that no external forces can harm Buddhism. The downfall of Buddhism is the cause of our own.
Buddhism will survive for another 9000 years. This is the "Fa4 Yun4" of Lord Buddha.