You may want to edit here: it is not the teachings of Gelugpa that is not recognised, it is the Chinese Gelugpa Society/Singapore Gelugpa Society that we do not recognise.Originally posted by bohiruci:The teachings of Gelugpa is not recognised by Wisdom Bliss and Compassionate Affinity
huh?Originally posted by NT2:chiong one ah?
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:You may want to edit here: it is not the teachings of Gelugpa that is not recognised, it is the Chinese Gelugpa Society/Singapore Gelugpa Society that we do not recognise.
Unfortunately the website which used to have information on that was taken down (henry's website).Originally posted by concerned_man:Hi AEN,
I hope to understand more about the reasons for not recognising
Chinese Gelugpa Society and Singapore Gelugpa Society.
I am really keen to know more, because a person whom I know might be in their community.
Thanks.
Concerned Man
yes , it is the teachings of chinese gelugpa society we dun recognise inOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:You may want to edit here: it is not the teachings of Gelugpa that is not recognised, it is the Chinese Gelugpa Society/Singapore Gelugpa Society that we do not recognise.
ven chuanxi under ven haitao is not practise tibetan esotericthought i reply this from a message of bohiruci., so that we can all learn.
he is practice tientai esoteric under chinese mahayana
Esoteric is a term ,yes ,as spelt out in the dictionaryOriginally posted by sinweiy:thought i reply this from a message of bohiruci., so that we can all learn.
regarding the use of the word “esoteric”. isn’t esoteric buddhism = tibetan buddhism? esoteric = mysterious (frm dictionary). so if put esoteric/mysterious in front of mahayana or any sect, it would become vajrayana already. no?
sorry, i’m not so familiar with ‘esoteric’.
btw, from watching many videos of ven haitao, He don’t seem to be exactly from tientai. it seems to be from pureland school, but used to practice Earth store method. and i notice He like to learn many method (fa men wu liang shi yuan xue) and love to teach mantras, and encourage ppl to leave ‘home’. need to go find the previous teacher to know more. hmm..
however, from our(PL, MCKÂ’s) pov we donÂ’t really encourage learning too many doors for beginners. unless, one is like San Cai(Sudhana) of Hua Yen Sutra. He went to visit 53 gurus while still remain loyal to the first guru who teach Him nianfo method until the last guru, Bodhisattva Samantabhadra! His mind is still unwavered. Excellent indeed.
Master Yin Guang and MCK’s teacher, Li Bin Nan also don’t encourage ppl to leave ‘home’, though we think leave home is very good, just that we scare if ppl don’t really uphold the precept properly, they might end up in hell realms. True leave home is leave the home of afflictions/vexation, leave the home of sasamra is what we encourage.
thx, Amituofo!
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so your point is supportive of Ven Hai tao teaching or u dun?Originally posted by sinweiy:thought i reply this from a message of bohiruci., so that we can all learn.
regarding the use of the word “esoteric”. isn’t esoteric buddhism = tibetan buddhism? esoteric = mysterious (frm dictionary). so if put esoteric/mysterious in front of mahayana or any sect, it would become vajrayana already. no?
sorry, i’m not so familiar with ‘esoteric’.
btw, from watching many videos of ven haitao, He don’t seem to be exactly from tientai. it seems to be from pureland school, but used to practice Earth store method. and i notice He like to learn many method (fa men wu liang shi yuan xue) and love to teach mantras, and encourage ppl to leave ‘home’. need to go find the previous teacher to know more. hmm..
however, from our(PL, MCKÂ’s) pov we donÂ’t really encourage learning too many doors for beginners. unless, one is like San Cai(Sudhana) of Hua Yen Sutra. He went to visit 53 gurus while still remain loyal to the first guru who teach Him nianfo method until the last guru, Bodhisattva Samantabhadra! His mind is still unwavered. Excellent indeed.
Master Yin Guang and MCK’s teacher, Li Bin Nan also don’t encourage ppl to leave ‘home’, though we think leave home is very good, just that we scare if ppl don’t really uphold the precept properly, they might end up in hell realms. True leave home is leave the home of afflictions/vexation, leave the home of sasamra is what we encourage.
thx, Amituofo!
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btw, from watching many videos of ven haitao, He don’t seem to be exactly from tientai. it seems to be from pureland school, but used to practice Earth store method. and i notice He like to learn many method (fa men wu liang shi yuan xue) and love to teach mantras, and encourage ppl to leave ‘home’. need to go find the previous teacher to know more. hmm..
Originally posted by bohiruci:i think not for beginners but i bow and respect His teaching. i'm still loyal to MCK's teaching of focusing on one. and that concentration lead to opening of wisdom. Ven Hai tao did explained that He's a monk, He ought to.
so your point is supportive of Ven Hai tao teaching or u dun?
Originally posted by bohiruci:actually, itÂ’s most surprisingly that the Earth Store Sutra never mentioned about Amitabha Buddha.
Earth Store Bodhisattva does have a section where he vowed to help sentient beings to the Pureland of Amitabha ,there is really no conflict to which areas.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:yeah, i normally don't do deframing and would respect ppl, but i wonder how come they (Singapore Gelugpa Buddhist Society ) have this privilege to have the Buddha's relics and Buddha's disciples' relics for the exhibition in Spore Expo come end of the year.
Thanks for pointing this out to our readers
Heard from Sinweiy that they are opening an exhibition at the year end.
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See things from a different point of view and you will know how they manage to be in singapore legally and to have so many Buddha's relics and other relicsOriginally posted by sinweiy:yeah, i normally don't do deframing and would respect ppl, but i wonder how come they (Singapore Gelugpa Buddhist Society ) have this privilege to have the Buddha's relics and Buddha's disciples' relics for the exhibition in Spore Expo come end of the year.
http://www.gelugpa.com/images/Gelugpa/Forms/Relic.pdf
http://www.gelugpa.com
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they not consider buddhists?Originally posted by sinweiy:yeah, i normally don't do deframing and would respect ppl, but i wonder how come they (Singapore Gelugpa Buddhist Society ) have this privilege to have the Buddha's relics and Buddha's disciples' relics for the exhibition in Spore Expo come end of the year.
http://www.gelugpa.com/images/Gelugpa/Forms/Relic.pdf
http://www.gelugpa.com
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They use magic?Originally posted by bohiruci:The teachings of Gelugpa is not recognised by Wisdom Bliss and Compassionate Affinity
as this rinpoche is not a welcome visitor of HH Dalai Lama Office and H H Ganden Dripa in Dharamsala
Rinpoche Quan Xi is different from Ven Chuan Xi
Ven Chuan Xi is under Ven HaiTao practised Esoteric Buddhism in Chinese Mahayana Buddhism
Quan Xi Rinpoche is under Tibetan Gelugpa Tradition (the yellow hat)
the Dolgyal master have used magic to subdue their opponents in the past
a thing that is not allowed in Buddhist teachings .
really got use magic? u mean voodoo....kong tao? All these are real?Originally posted by maggot:They use magic?Me now very interested
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Depends on the person's cultivations not impossible to reach that stage if there's teachers who teach thatOriginally posted by laoda99:really got use magic? u mean voodoo....kong tao? All these are real?
ask ur relatives whether they can show u some magicOriginally posted by maggot:Depends on the person's cultivations not impossible to reach that stage if there's teachers who teach that
Magic real or not? Up to you to decide and experience it
Anyway I think my relatives are in that sect too![]()
This will be funOriginally posted by laoda99:ask ur relatives whether they can show u some magic![]()
pls read Greatest MiraclesOriginally posted by maggot:This will be fun![]()
They deal with a worldly spirit.Originally posted by maggot:They use magic?Me now very interested
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