Is Buddha's She3 Li4 Zi3 for worship?
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Hihi, is Buddha's She Li Zi for worship? Read in a book it says the She Li Zi will bring blessings to followers becoz seeing the She Li is like seeing Buddha?
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In Buddhism, we do not worship Buddha, let alone anyone or anything.Originally posted by laoda99:Hihi, is Buddha's She Li Zi for worship? Read in a book it says the She Li Zi will bring blessings to followers becoz seeing the She Li is like seeing Buddha?
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Slightly updated (pls pardon my poor translation skills):
A translated article from Fa Yu Bing Fen (Book 1), Jen Chen Buddhist Book Publisher
“Discussing about Shariras”
By Venerable Shen-Kai
The Sharira is truly a very amazing and miraculous object. Though it is a material substance, it can also be said to be immaterial. However, only the Buddhas, Bodhisattvas, great Masters, saints and Bhikshus would have shariras. Some lay Buddhists who are great practitioners, both males and females, may also have shariras. Typically, after the practitioner passes away and is cremated, numerous colourful bead-like objects, known as shariras, would be retrieved from the ashes. It does not melt under high temperature, does not dissolve with high humidity, does not spoil under high pressure, and does not get destroyed over kalpas. Interestingly, not every Buddhist has shariras. Buddhists who do not practice, just as other people who do not believe in Buddhism, would not have shariras. There are plentiful religions in the world. Why is it that the religious leader, missionaries and believers do not have shariras? There are also practitioners from religions other than Buddhism, yet only people who practice the Dharma have shariras. Besides, one could also tell the level of practice through the number of shariras produced. Those with deeper level of practice would have more shariras, while those with a shallow level of practice would have fewer shariras. If one has practiced for countless lifetimes, the number of shariras one would have the beauty of its colour and luster and other miraculous occurrences would be even more incredible.
According to the records of the life story of Buddha, when Shakyamuni Buddha entered Nirvana, “At this moment, the golden coffin ascended to the height of seven “duo luo” trees, moved around in space, dissolved into the fire of Samadhi, instantaneously producing ashes and shariras appeared, like multi-coloured beads, bright and firm”. According to the explanations, there are as many as 84 “dou3” shariras. At that time, the shariras were divided amongst the 8 great Kings and other Buddha’s disciples. They built stupas to venerate the shariras. While the majority of the shariras were left in the human realm, some were kept in the Naga realm or Heaven realm. There was also Buddha’s great disciple, Venerable Ananda. When he entered Nirvana, his physical body levitated to the space, dissolved into fire and self-cremated. His shariras rained down from the sky upon the banks of the Ganges river. All these did not only happen in the ancient times. Even as recent as the great Buddhist leader – Master Tai-Hsu, when he passed away, there were more than 400 shariras. The Pure Land master – Venerable Yin Kwang, also produced a few hundred shariras when he passed away. There are also other innumerable great Masters and Teachers who had shariras. There was especially a Zhang Jia Rinpoche who passed away in Tai Pei in 1957; he had as many as 7000 to 8000 shariras. He even had the most precious Vajra gem and six-syllable mantra. The shariras could be as large as beans and as tiny as seeds. They were very colourful, but the white ones were especially remarkable. Other than these, there are also uncountable accounts of Bhikshus, Bhikshunis, lay male and female Buddhists who passed away with shariras.
Actually, one need not to have shariras only upon one’s Nirvana. For example, one of the greatest disciples of the Buddha – Mahakashyapa, his indestructible body sharira is presently concealed in the “ling2 jiu1 shan1”. He would await for the descent of the Maitreya Buddha, when he would appear in the Dharma assembly, benefit sentient beings and then enter into Nirvana. Other examples include the Ksitigarbha Bodhisattva of the Jiu Hua Mountain in An Hui; Tang Dynasty 6th Zen Patriarch Hui Neng of Cao Xi; the Ming dynasty Great Master Han Shan; China’s Wu Jin Zang Bhikshuni etc, their body sharira are being venerated at Guang Dong in the ‘Nan Hua’ monastery. There is also a Venerable in Thailand who entered Nirvana in his middle age, but his body did not decay, it is situated at ‘Cheng Niang’ and the Thais venerate his Body Relic; it is also known that his hair is grew 5 times longer than when he was alive. In Taiwan Si Zhi Maitreya Monastery, the Ci Hang Bodhisattva non-decayed Body Relic was a breaking news, people from local and abroad pay homage to it; in Nan Hai Pu Tuo Mountain ‘Gu Fuo Dong’, there are many body relics of old monks who passed away for plenty of years. Regarding body relics/shariras, there are plenty of cases in different places and mountains in China. Those who follow and practice (xiu1 chi2) according to the Buddhadharma, not only bone marrows, even nails, blood, flesh and teeth, the entire body can become relics, just like there are lights and colours on [??]’s head. Venerable Jiu Mo Luo’s tongue did not burn in cremation, these are Sharira Gems.
Sharira can also be obtained through Gan3 Ying4 (induction/invocation), in our country (Taiwan) during the era of Dong Wu Sun Quan, after hearing that Venerable Fan Zeng Kang Zeng Kai said the merits of paying homage to shariras, thought of wanting to pay homage to shariras, therefore requested that Venerable to sincerely pray. After 49 days, he suddenly heard sounds coming from the empty bottle, and discovered ‘Gong-De-She-Li’ (merits sharira). After trying to hit it with a hammer on a metal zhuan, the sharira remains undamaged. During the Song dynasty, lay disciple Wang Ri Xi was carving a Pure Land scripture on the wooden plank and a sharira was carved out. Again in Song Dynasty, there was a lady who always recited Amitabha Sutra, in the sutra suddenly a lot of shariras appeared. During Xi Pu era, there was a monk called Hui Da, in [??], bowed and sincerely prayed for Buddha’s relic, suddenly the relic rolled out from the ground, it is now venerated at Ning Bo Ah Yu Wang monastery, is known to be the relic that Venerable Hui Da prayed for. Recently there is a General, once he was at Xi-An Xi-Jiao Monastery [??] stupa, he sincerely prayed and a huge brick fell out from the top of the stupa, and realized that two shariras are on top of it, therefore he renovated the stupa. In Hong Kong, Venerable Lan Mo went to India for Buddhist pilgrimage, in Buddha’s pre-enlightenment Bodhigaya; he met an old practitioner, called Guang Qing Shi. He was at Jia ? Great Stupa venerating Buddha’s relics for 3 years already, once he witnessed sharira dropping by itself from the top of the stupa, and it even gave him and another lay disciple 2 shariras; it was very colourful and lovely. During Ming Guo, Zheng Jue Sheng old lay disciple once venerated two of Living Buddha Ban Chan’s shariras; it automatically multiplied to 7 of them. When Mr Qu Lao passed away, his wife took 2 shariras and put onto his mouth. When his funeral was over, it was found that that 7 shariras remain at home. Later it was given to Li Zi Kuan old lay disciple who is at Taipei Shan Dao monastery for offering, but realized the sharira has multiplied to 10. In Tibetan Vajrayana Yellow Hat sect leader Lama Tsongkapa dropped a tooth in his latter years, his disciples treated it as a sharira and venerated it, shariras grew out from the tooth’s root canal. It was distributed among masses for veneration, after distributing it grew again, after growing it was distributed again. It was known that there is a Living Buddha, in the early years at China Mainland before his passing away, often there are disciples praying/requesting his sharira, he could at any time drop 2 shariras from his nostrils and gave them for veneration. It was also heard that there is a merchant, Da Pu Tuo and Bo Li Jia brothers, they used a jade box and carried back eight of Buddha’s hair strands (also Buddha’s sharira). They were robbed twice on their way by robbers, altogether they lost 4 strains. When they arrived back in Myanmar they asked the king to build a stupa for the veneration of the shariras, and when they opened the box, they found 8 strains like it originally was. There are many cases of multiplication of shariras among those who venerate the shariras; and because whenever there are hosting of Buddhism activity, often there are light-flower sharira.
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So is it true that the she3 li4 will bring blessings? if so, who gave the blessings?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:In Buddhism, we do not worship Buddha, let alone anyone or anything.
Instead we say we pay reverence, venerate them. -
Above: one of the relics of Lama Tsongkapa
The author has been to different places in Taiwan, visited and venerated Buddha, Bodhisattvas, Saints, high monks and old practitioners of their shariras, at Jia Yi Seng saw Zang Ji Hua old lay disciple, because of his sincere praying and chanting Buddha, obtained light-flower sharira, at that time liked it a lot, therefore wished him when he pass away surely have sharira, and it turned out that a few years ago Zhang Lao in Taipei, fore-knew his death time, died/liberated without sickness during meditation. After cremation there are plenty of big and small shariras, there are sharira-tree and sharira-flower. Once also, visited Gao-Xiong-Shou mountain monastery Lamp-Burning puja, saw a lot of lamp-flower sharira. Once more than 10 years ago at Xi Yi, visited various Venerables recently arrived back from India who brought back many Buddha Shariras for veneration. They are shaped like small peanut-grains, I witnessed the colour was white, it was heard that white was good, some people saw golden-yellow or pale-yellow, some people saw sky-blue or green colour, some saw red or purple colour, some saw pearl colour, some saw jade colour, or coral; ???? colour, or if karma is heavy, some saw it as grey or black, or because of sudden sincere ?, or because of prostrations and sincere repentance, vowing to be virtuous, the sharira colour turned good; witnesses found it very mysterious. For example locally in the present generation, there is a Fa Xue Jia, Mr. Luo Jia Jie, believed in Buddhism, once he was at Ningbo Ah Yu Wang monastery, prayed and venerated BuddhaÂ’s shariras, at first it was black colour, and knew that he had heavy karmic obstructions, therefore he stayed at the monastery for 7 days 7 nights and kept praying and repenting. At the 7th day, he visited the sharira again; it turned totally into white colour, and was satisfied and left. Sharira in Buddhist disciplesÂ’ minds, it is a great power without pens or ink or words, yet is able to invoke people to avoid evil and lead them towards the virtuous path and seek the truth.
Above: sharira of the Buddha prior to Shakyamuni Buddha, Kassapa Buddha
Sharira is formed due to the practitioner’s life merits, due to love, compassion, joy and equanimity (the 4 immeasurable); wisdom; benefiting others and the world’s immense merits. It is difficult to obtain and rare, therefore it is said that shariras are immaterial, it is beyond-material. Jing Guang Ming Sutra states “Sharira is cultivated out of Precepts, Samadhi, Wisdom merits, it is difficult to obtain and is the highest blessing field." And also, “Persons of shariras, is of immense Six Paramitas shuo3 de2 shuo3 zhong4.” Prajna sutra also says “Buddha’s body and She Li Luo (She-Li-Zhi/shariras) is obtained through practice of Prajna-paramita immense merits, it is venerated, reverenced, praised and respected by all Devas and Men.” Therefore people of the world should inspire the heart of veneration towards Buddha and Bodhisattva’s shariras; it will result in various blessings which are difficult to comprehend.
Due to the various ways of concrete proof, shariras are not necessarily made of hair, blood, or marrow, the colours are not of white, black or 3 types, if the Chinese translate it as “body bones” or or “ling2 bones”, “? bones”, it is unable to cover the sharira’s true essence and meaning.
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". . . Everyday when visitors came to have a look at the Sarira, I always followed them. The visitors' opinions about the relic varied greatly. I had seen it many times; at first it looked to me as of the size of a green bean and of a dark purple color. In the middle of the tenth month, after I had paid reverence to the Mahayana and Hinayana tripitakas, I went again to look and it was the same size as before but like a brilliant red pearl. As I was impatient to see how it would transform itself, I again prostrated myself and felt pains all over my body; the Sarira was bigger than a yellow bean, half yellow and half white. I then realized that its size and color varied according to the visitors sense organ and its field. . . ." (Empty Cloud: the Autobiography of Hsu Yun)
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----Originally posted by An Eternal Now:BTW, I remember watching the particular Thai Body Relic on Discovery channel.
I would also like to thank my #Buddhist channel operator Utpala for helping translate a large portion of the text. Thank you a lot! Please pardon me for the poor translation at some parts; I am a very bad translator. If there are any errors in the work of translation I must repent. Those who want to read the original text in Chinese, and many other Buddhist articles in the book, pls visit the Ren Cheng dharma centres to get the books. You may privately message me.
Another thing is a week ago I was attending the Ullambana Dharma Puja (7th month) at Jen Chen Vihara, and after the puja I visited the Buddha's Relics. Last year when I saw it, both was of jade colour. This time, one of them was jade coloured, another one was light orange colour. I asked around, at least two of them saw it as completely white colour. There are other different colours being seen as I asked around. It is truly mysterious
I asked my dharma teacher, her reply was that sharira was originally immaterial, it manifests according to a person's Xin1-Ye4.
As for my Master, unfortunately he did not choose to be cremated due to the bad circumstances of his headquarter, there were disagreements within his Sangha then and it was split. My Master did not want a conflict out of his shariras, and chose to be buried instead in his own will. He died much earlier than he intended to take up his disciples' karma. However there are other disciples of my master who have a lot of shariras. One of them even died in a car accident, but at that moment he was practising the dharma that my Master transmitted him, after he died there are hundreds of shariras. Usually such people who died in a horrible car crash may have to fall into lower realms, but for his case, he was liberated.
There are also many other masters in recent years who have passed away and has a lot of shariras. For example Master Hsuan Hua has thousands of shariras after he entered into Nirvana. You can see the video here: http://www.gbm-online.com/videos.aspOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:Wow, I just found one very interesting video in our moderator Sinweiy's personal website!
http://www.geocities.com/sinweiy/Video/KasyapsaBuddhaHair.MPG
The Hair Sharira by Kasyapa Buddha is miraculous and moves by itself!
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If you do not have faith in the sharira, you disregard it, you do not even venerate it, then it will not be possible for the shariras to bestow blessings on you. But it is true shariras will bestow blessings.Originally posted by laoda99:So is it true that the she3 li4 will bring blessings? if so, who gave the blessings? -
so it is the shariras bestow blessings? not buddha? why shariras got special powers?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:If you do not have faith in the sharira, you disregard it, you do not even venerate it, then it will not be possible for the shariras to bestow blessings on you. But it is true shariras will bestow blessings. -
If you venerate the Buddha you can also receive blessings.Originally posted by laoda99:so it is the shariras bestow blessings? not buddha? why shariras got special powers?
Anyway Buddhists don't really focus on this kind of things very much.
I think this may serve as an encouragement, but people should put their focus on dharma.
Shariras got special powers due to the merits of the practitioner. Many modern day practitioners also have a lot of shariras - but no one can be compared to Buddha. Buddha's merits is thus immense and unmeasurable. -
Respecting NOT WorshippingOriginally posted by laoda99:Hihi, is Buddha's She Li Zi for worship? Read in a book it says the She Li Zi will bring blessings to followers becoz seeing the She Li is like seeing Buddha?
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a stupid qn, how do we know which is from which part of the body??
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The Buddha and His Great Disciples are only a form of symbol of their legacy and teachings and should be treated as thus
I always remember what the Buddha said
When Buddha finally rested in between two Sala trees , the Sala trees suddenly burst in full blossom
Buddha said ,"this is not the way to honour me .The only way is to accept my teaching , practised it and benefit other sentient beings."
This is my view on the Buddha relics
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Just a guess:Originally posted by adamteo:a stupid qn, how do we know which is from which part of the body??
When the body is cremated, everything is burnt off - except the undestructible and beautiful Shariras - in the same position as where the body is before cremation. -
I read a book...it says the color differentiateOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:Just a guess:
When the body is cremated, everything is burnt off - except the undestructible and beautiful Shariras - in the same position as where the body is before cremation.
red=blood
white=bone
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The most important sharira? Of course, the Dharma is the most important Buddha Sharira left for us.Originally posted by bohiruci:The Buddha and His Great Disciples are only a form of symbol of their legacy and teachings and should be treated as thus
I always remember what the Buddha said
When Buddha finally rested in between two Sala trees , the Sala trees suddenly burst in full blossom
Buddha said ,"this is not the way to honour me .The only way is to accept my teaching , practised it and benefit other sentient beings."
This is my view on the Buddha relics -
Some is like that but some is not.Originally posted by laoda99:I read a book...it says the color differentiate
red=blood
white=bone
something like that
Shariras can come in all kinds of colours - even green, orange, etc, - not only that, a strange feature is that some shariras are viewed in different colours by different people.
I have discussed it in the previous post -
Buddha's relic there's 1 at the vesak day exhibition located at the open grass patch opposite serangoon plaza.
Yesterday just went to take a look
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Very nice pictures!