Patience
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What are Buddha teachings on patience?
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This is a good and extremely important one.
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Noticed that despite the frequent attacks by CK, the mods and forumers have been very patient in explaining their beliefs
So kudos to you guys -
yea, I am amazed by their patience..Originally posted by laurence82:Noticed that despite the frequent attacks by CK, the mods and forumers have been very patient in explaining their beliefs
So kudos to you guys -
Me too. I am overly impress. It's really a great opportunity for good cultivations.
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Why... you want to teach me har.Originally posted by laurence82:What are Buddha teachings on patience?
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It also keep us questioning ourselves and ascertain our beliefs and value-system. It is always better to bend our faith to align with facts and not bend the facts to align with our faith. At least, for me this is a good rule to follow.
I must stress again, it is really not about competition (not about winning or losing in an argument), but a magnificant SELF discovery journey. -
Dear, i have much to learn about patience from you ratherOriginally posted by MooKu:Why... you want to teach me har. -
Spiritually or worldly wise, patience is an important element towards achieving the set goals.
That's provided that there is at at least a goal with sound understanding of what it takes to get there.
Without a goal and wisdom (to do the right stuffs with a clear mind), patience may not mean anything. -
I have listened this from a tape by the Dalai Lama, and remembered it ever since:Originally posted by laurence82:What are Buddha teachings on patience?
“We cannot learn real patience and tolerance from a guru or a friend. They can be practiced only when we come in contact with someone who creates unpleasant experiences. According to Shantideva, enemies are really good for us as we can learn a lot from them and build our inner strength.”
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But later on, I learnt to transcend patience itself, for THAT is the true patience - known in Diamond Sutra as Transcendental patience. Because if all is empty, what is there to be patient about.
My dharma teacher calls this 'Wu2 Ren3 Ke2 Ren3'
- Intolerable, because it's empty. -
Here's a forum topic related to Patience, or transcendental patience if you like: Awareness without analysis
Chat occured in #buddhism more than a year ago. -
I believe this is intermediate or advanced stage of cultivation. Wu Ren Ke Ren is high level wisdom. Congrats.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:I have listened this from a tape by the Dalai Lama, and remembered it ever since:
“We cannot learn real patience and tolerance from a guru or a friend. They can be practiced only when we come in contact with someone who creates unpleasant experiences. According to Shantideva, enemies are really good for us as we can learn a lot from them and build our inner strength.”
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But later on, I learnt to transcend patience itself, for THAT is the true patience - known in Diamond Sutra as Transcendental patience. Because if all is empty, what is there to be patient about.
My dharma teacher calls this 'Wu2 Ren3 Ke2 Ren3' - Intolerable, because it's empty. -
Oh no la... im only beginner level. I am not even fit to be buddhism forum owner... i'm here really to learn from you all.Originally posted by concerned_man:I believe this is intermediate or advanced stage of cultivation. Wu Ren Ke Ren is high level wisdom. Congrats.
Anyway I may have written wrongly, bcos I still get impatient sometimes. I am far from liberated. -
The Six Paramitas that Bodhisattvas cultivate:
1. Dāna paramita: generosity, giving of oneself
2. Sila paramita : virtue, morality, proper conduct
3. Kṣanti paramita : patience, tolerance, forbearance, acceptance, endurance
4. Virya paramita : energy, diligence, vigour, effort
5. Dhyāna paramita : one-pointed concentration, contemplation
6. Prajña paramita : wisdom, insight -
developing great patience is one of the most challenging task in today's world, especially in a fast changing environment with instant gratification.
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Its not that easy tho
Its so tempting to blow one's top, rage at someone etc
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have u heard of those anger management b4?Originally posted by laurence82:Its not that easy tho
Its so tempting to blow one's top, rage at someone etc
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things like... stop for 10 seconds b4 trying to throw ur temper
the key is your mindfulness at that moment... no need to suppress but be conscious of your thoughts. it takes practise and cultivation. -
yes very true..Originally posted by concerned_man:developing great patience is one of the most challenging task in today's world, especially in a fast changing environment with instant gratification. -
but still we must still strive to develope patience. because without patience we cannot build our good character, we may not be able to achieve much.
Especially for all, especially Buddhists and myself, more patience and tolerant are needed for the betterment of our society and living space. -
Where does your daily practice of patience that brings all this benefit come from? How did you learn to be patient?
Ask yourself, “Where did I learn this patience that I practice? I learned it from those who have been angry at me. By depending on the angry person I have been able to practice, to realize patience. Therefore, all the peace and happiness that I enjoy in this and future lives as a result of my practice of patience has come from the angry person. It is through the kindness of the angry person, who gave me the opportunity to practice patience, that I am able to offer peace and happiness to all sentient beings as a result. Because of this person I am able to accomplish the perfection of patience, the other perfections, and thereby complete the bodhisattva’s path and attain full enlightenment. Through this person’s kindness I can eradicate all errors of mind and gain all realizations. It is the angry person who has given me this opportunity. This person is actually giving me enlightenment. Through the kindness of this person I can also offer all peace and happiness to all sentient beings. How kind this person is! How much benefit this person has given me! This is the most precious person in my life! Even if someone were to give me billions and trillions of dollars, I could never buy the peace of mind that I get through the practice of patience. Therefore, the angry person who gives me the opportunity to practice patience is of much greater value than trillions of dollars, mountains of diamonds, acres of gold.”
The angry person is even more precious than trillions of wish- fulfilling jewels. The most precious material object we can think of in these examples is the wish-fulfilling jewel. Legend has it that by praying to this mythical gem, you get whatever sense enjoyment you desire. Nevertheless, the angry person with whom you practice patience is far more valuable than trillions of these wish-granting gems. No amount of material wealth can bring you the inner peace that you can achieve by practicing patience with an angry person. ThatÂ’s why such people are so precious.
Anyway, in order to practice patience, you need an angry person. As the great bodhisattva Shantideva pointed out in his teaching, the Bodhicharyavatara, the Buddha isnÂ’t angry with you, so you canÂ’t practice patience with him. And a doctorÂ’s only thought is to help you, so thereÂ’s no opportunity there either. Similarly, your friends arenÂ’t angry with you, so thereÂ’s no chance to practice patience with them. Therefore, if thereÂ’s nobody angry at you, thereÂ’s no opportunity to put into practice the teachings youÂ’ve received from the Buddha and your gurus. ThatÂ’s why the angry person is most kind, precious and indispensable in your life, you can see how much more precious the angry person is. The benefits of practicing patience are infinite.
We always want in our life someone who loves us. We feel that this is important for our happiness. But you can see now that itÂ’s much more important to have in our life someone who doesnÂ’t love us, whoÂ’s angry at us, so that we can practice training our minds. As I mentioned before, if you donÂ’t have such a person, if you donÂ’t train your mind, then even if you do find a friend, thereÂ’s the danger that through lack of patience, youÂ’ll turn your friend into an enemy.
Therefore, to maintain harmonious relationships with others, to keep your friends, you have to practice patience. To lead a happy and successful life, you almost have to train yourself like a soldier preparing for battle. Soldiers train before marching off to war. You need to do the same. Training your mind by practicing meditation on patience is the way to prepare yourself for the battles of daily life. Leaving aside the happiness of future lives or that of other sentient beings, even for the happiness of this life, you have to practice patience.
The happiness and difficulties we experience every day come from our mind. Whatever weÂ’re experiencing at any given moment is dependent upon the way we think, our concepts, our attitude. Our attitude determines how we feel. -
Hmm, the current attacks by Christians on the Buddhism forum, sadly, re-emphasise the importance of religious harmony in Singapore and patience by all Buddhists.
Sadly, the words of this Islamic scholar, may not really describe the reality of what is happening here although I agree with his words on the need for interfaith dialogue
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=192644