Lamas can eat meat right?
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Saw some eating macdonalds just now
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lamas can oso cut people heads off with flying bowls.
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They have different schools.
I think maybe someone here knows and can explain?
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Lamas are buddhists all right, but is a different one. Not too sure, read it somewhere.
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In Tibet, there is an additional factor to consider: due to the high altitude and harsh climate, there is little to eat besides ground barley, dairy products and meat. To stay alive, the people have to eat meat. His Holiness the Dalai Lama has encouraged those Tibetans in exile, who now live in countries where vegetables and fruits are more plentiful, to refrain from eating meat whenever possible. Also, if a practitioner has severe problems with his/her health due to not eating meat, then the master may give permission to take it. Thus, each person must check his/her own level of practice and bodily requirements and eat accordingly.
The fact that there is such variety within the Buddhist doctrine attests to the BuddhaÂ’s skill in being able to guide people according to their dispositions and needs. It is extremely important not to be partial and sectarian, but to have respect for all the traditions and their practitioners.
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One text to refer on this topic:
http://www.drba.org/dharma/veggie/veg_meat_tibet.asp -
Vegetarianism evolved from Mahayana Buddhism in China. It become common and became a precept for Mahayana Monks and Nuns not to eat meat.
May not be so for other Buddhism schools from other areas and countries.
In fact, the vegetarianism is now evolving in the west. -
Lamas can marry and have kids right?
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hmm any tibetian buddhists here ?Originally posted by laoda99:Lamas can marry and have kids right? -
His Holiness Sakya Trizin is a married Clergy
He is head of the Sakyapa Order
I also visit a lot of lama who are married clergy ,basically married or not have nothing to do with your practise
it is how you benefit sentient beings with the proper teachings . -
so having sex or no sex wont affect ur religion right?Originally posted by bohiruci:His Holiness Sakya Trizin is a married Clergy
He is head of the Sakyapa Order
I also visit a lot of lama who are married clergy ,basically married or not have nothing to do with your practise
it is how you benefit sentient beings with the proper teachings . -
Anyone watched Samsara? I think it is a very educational movie
Its about a Tibetan monk who gave in to his sexual desires, and his elder had to let him go.
He eventually got reunited with a gal he loved and got married.
But his sexual desires got the worst of him, and eventually he caused the death of his wife I believe. In the end, he somehow saw the light and returned to the monastery -
We must analyse the term 'lama'.Originally posted by laoda99:Lamas can marry and have kids right?
A lama simply means 'teacher' in Tibetan Buddhism, and that Buddhist teacher MAY or MAY NOT be renounced as a monk or a nun.
But for the Dalai Lama, he CANNOT marry and have kids because he is a monk.
So the issue lies on whether is he renounced? If he is renounced he will have to abide by the precepts he undertake as a renounced person. -
so the Sakya Trizin who is a married Clergy as said by bohirici is a monk or not?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:We must analyse the term 'lama'.
A lama simply means 'teacher' in Tibetan Buddhism, and that Buddhist teacher MAY or MAY NOT be renounced as a monk or a nun.
But for the Dalai Lama, he CANNOT marry and have kids because he is a monk.
So the issue lies on whether is he renounced? If he is renounced he will have to abide by the precepts he undertake as a renounced person. -
It really depends on what role you have taken in Buddhism... there are many..Originally posted by laoda99:so having sex or no sex wont affect ur religion right?
my local dharma teacher and my dharma teacher in taiwan who comes occasionally to transmit dharma are both lay-clergies who have family and children although they no longer engage in any sexual activities. For my Taiwanese teacher, his new monastery is built and he has already moved into that new monastery to live alone.
Then why did they become teachers? First you need to understand that both of them wanted to renounced and couldn't renounce due to family problems. And my shi fu (who is a monk) seeing that certain people have the capacity to transmit the dharma to others, having achieved the state of realisation, therefore ask that these people be tasked to spread the dharma. -
Married clergies are not monks, since monks have undertaken the precepts of celibacy.Originally posted by laoda99:so the Sakya Trizin who is a married Clergy as said by bohirici is a monk or not? -
For we lay pples,we have 5 precepts whereas monk has 227 precepts
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i always tot clergy means monkOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:Married clergies are not monks, since monks have undertaken the precepts of celibacy.
u mean there are pple not monks but clergy? what is the hierachy like?
This lama not monk but head of order? can meh? -
It is possible. Especially for Mahayana Buddhism/Vajrayana Buddhism where the role of a lay-practitioner is more important.Originally posted by laoda99:i always tot clergy means monk
u mean there are pple not monks but clergy? what is the hierachy like?
This lama not monk but head of order? can meh?
For example, all the great Bodhisattvas in Mahayana Buddhism like Guan Yin, Wen Shu, Da Shi Zhi, etc etc are all lay-practitioners
Except Ksitigarbha Bodhisattva, one of the only great bodhisattva who manifest as a monk.
Anyway my dharma teacher says a lay-teacher has a different 'yin yuan' and can allow the dharma teachings to reach out to more people in the society. -
i see...Originally posted by An Eternal Now:It is possible. Especially for Mahayana Buddhism/Vajrayana Buddhism where the role of a lay-practitioner is more important.
For example, all the great Bodhisattvas in Mahayana Buddhism like Guan Yin, Wen Shu, Da Shi Zhi, etc etc are all lay-practitioners Except Ksitigarbha Bodhisattva, one of the only great bodhisattva who manifest as a monk.
Anyway my dharma teacher says a lay-teacher has a different 'yin yuan' and can allow the dharma teachings to reach out to more people in the society. -
i watched that before...... nice interesting movie.Originally posted by laurence82:Anyone watched Samsara? I think it is a very educational movie
Its about a Tibetan monk who gave in to his sexual desires, and his elder had to let him go.
He eventually got reunited with a gal he loved and got married.
But his sexual desires got the worst of him, and eventually he caused the death of his wife I believe. In the end, he somehow saw the light and returned to the monastery
i remember when i watched it, i was still a very green-horn to buddhism know nothing truth about buddhism and i was like hoping the monk doesn't leave his home for the monastery.... . and my heart was like breaking when he eventually left 
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anyway, i like the colors of the tibetan monk's robe....
hhmm... wonder how i look like if i am in one of them.
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Honestly, I do not generally have respect for Lamas, or even think they are religious monks at all. All thru history, Lamas are notoriously infamous for slavery, torture, sexual abuses and murder. 80% of the population in Tibet were slaves. They drink and eat meat... human skin drums and cups fashioned from human skulls takes the cake. They are also technically the ruling class in Tibet rule with an iron hand.
I'm not kidding..... -
Honestly, I do not generally have respect for Lamas, or even think they are religious monks at all.
As mentioned above - not all lamas are monks. Lama simply means teacher. Some can be lay teachers.All thru history, Lamas are notoriously infamous for slavery, torture, sexual abuses and murder. 80% of the population in Tibet were slaves.
Pls quote where you heard from... perhaps you may have read from Chinese propaganda sources that provides unsubstantiated garbage... lots of Chinese propaganda has been going on. See: China's Panchen Lama steals show with BuddhistsThey drink and eat meat...
Tibetan monks CAN eat meat - so do Theravada (thai/sri lankan monks). Buddha did not strictly forbid eating meat but only encouraged people to take up vegetarianism.
As for drinking? Pls quote...human skin drums and cups fashioned from human skulls takes the cake.
I believe human skulls and human skin drums are used to remind one of impermanence - though it may be for other reasons. There is nothing wrong with that since they didnt murder to get those skulls.They are also technically the ruling class in Tibet rule with an iron hand.
Yes the Lamas were the ruling class and were in charge of the politics of Tibet in the past. But I am not aware of lamas ruling Tibet with an iron fist.. -
Originally posted by MobyDog:Honestly, I do not generally have respect for Lamas, or even think they are religious monks at all. All thru history, Lamas are notoriously infamous for slavery, torture, sexual abuses and murder. 80% of the population in Tibet were slaves. They drink and eat meat... human skin drums and cups fashioned from human skulls takes the cake. They are also technically the ruling class in Tibet rule with an iron hand.
I'm not kidding..... really? didn't know that....
sorry to know that you don't respect them, can understand your reflected feelings and thoughts.
but what's past is past.....
let's give one another a chance - for any culture, race, tradition or religion. i'm not trying to cover anything but it is more like cultivating to uncover the beauty of our openness of heart and mind to let go of any past both ugly or nice and to live in present that matters most.