Slaughtering House in Europe
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...Samuel Johnson said we more often need to be reminded than instructed....
...Actually, much of the buddha-dharma is like this. It strikes with strong familiarity. Nevertheless, most of us need to be reminded of what we already know.... - Buddhism Plain & Simple
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It may appear so now but may not be necessarily the case in the past... originally.. and similarly if you lived in stone age hunting times you may consider yourself a carnivore..Originally posted by dragg:unfortunately most people dont see it that way.
humans are born omnivores.
In India a large fraction (arnd 30%) of their population is vegetarians, with another 30% being only 'occasional meat eaters'
I think many of them do not think that 'humans are born omnivores'. Therefore many Hindus are also vegetarians, having the doctrine of Ahimsa (nonviolence) derived from Buddhism millenias back. How I wished this kind of culture will spread throughout the world. I believe in the future there will be one day that civilisation reaches such an advancement that our entire humanity will adopt a vegetarian diet.
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agreed.Originally posted by coolbluewater:Though it's not something new, it still serves a good reminder to people, especially meat eaters, that the sentient beings are suffering because of our greed and desires.
some people will still argue that eating meat has been going on for many donkey years and some people will back up saying they offer prayers to the poor animals when they get slaughtered. it's not us suffering, its the animals suffering badly for who? for us - our consumption! on the other hand, it is also us suffering..... what goes around comes around.
can this be stopped?
sigh....... at least not much for now.
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I cannot watch the clips, i will be very very affected.Even normal times when i watch tv and something comes up with killing animals i will off straight away. Yes its not possible for the whole world to turn vege, but at least we can play our part although it does not help much. Bless all those killed and going 2 be killed animals
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after reading your first paragraph i thought you are a vegetarian.Originally posted by paperflower:agreed.
some people will still argue that eating meat has been going on for many donkey years and some people will back up saying they offer prayers to the poor animals when they get slaughtered. it's not us suffering, its the animals suffering badly for who? for us - our consumption! on the other hand, it is also us suffering..... what goes around comes around.
can this be stopped?
sigh....... at least not much for now.
i have been thinking about becoming a vegetarian. it is not because of the videos i watched.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
It definitely will. The number of Vegetarians is growing, especially in Europe and America.
It may appear so now but may not be necessarily the case in the past... originally.. and similarly if you lived in stone age hunting times you may consider yourself a carnivore..
In India a large fraction (arnd 30%) of their population is vegetarians, with another 30% being only 'occasional meat eaters' I think many of them do not think that 'humans are born omnivores'. Therefore many Hindus are also vegetarians, having the doctrine of Ahimsa (nonviolence) derived from Buddhism millenias back. How I wished this kind of culture will spread throughout the world. I believe in the future there will be one day that civilisation reaches such an advancement that our entire humanity will adopt a vegetarian diet.[/b] -
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:...Samuel Johnson said we more often need to be reminded than instructed....
...Actually, much of the buddha-dharma is like this. It strikes with strong familiarity. Nevertheless, most of us need to be reminded of what we already know.... - Buddhism Plain & Simple
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The funny thing is after watching the cruel killing, Some find eating chicken more tastier in KFC. lol. of course they are some who are defer by it.
some farmers who rear chicken or poulty don't respect life. the way they keep these for chicken in cages... some even beat up chicken or turkey when they are angry.. abusive of animals.. there are no proper laws and regulations in protecting these animals. Cos they are destined to be killed? so we shld allow the farmers to act inhumane to them? sad manz....
Male chick are killed when they are born. The hens are kept in overcrowding cages. There are no floor in the the cages so the their claws or feet got hurt. The hens are so stressed by the cramping environment that they peck at the other hens and themselves.
Can u imagine if u are the hen... what will u feel? Despair?
To prevent pecking, some practise chipping off their beaks. So the young chick's beaks are chipped off without any pain killers. The beaks are very senstive organ to the chick.
And the hens are given chemical in the feedings so that they can grow fat faster and laid egg faster. they grow so fat that their poor legs can be broken.
The chemical injected ( i think hormone ) can affect human being.. i forgot what it is.. make male more femaleish or female more maleish??
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And outbreaks of H5N1, Nipah virus etc from animals are due to the fact farmers dont rear them in a hygienic and humane environment
Slaughtering? Improper slaugtering methods leads to outbreak of virus such as E.Coli in beef. Thats what a friend who read Fast Food Nation told me. And the book refers to Macdonald
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No meat is safe from disease and outbreaks of viruses from animals will be increasingly frequent. Maybe the only kind of meat that is safer is fish but even that will not be entirely safe considering the rate we pollute the earth and oceans.Originally posted by laurence82:And outbreaks of H5N1, Nipah virus etc from animals are due to the fact farmers dont rear them in a hygienic and humane environment
Slaughtering? Improper slaugtering methods leads to outbreak of virus such as E.Coli in beef. Thats what a friend who read Fast Food Nation told me. And the book refers to Macdonald
There will be a movie on this coming up, also by the same title, Fast Food Nation. -
Yes, but we still can take steps to prevent themOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:No meat is safe from disease and outbreaks of viruses from animals will be increasingly frequent. Maybe the only kind of meat that is safer is fish but even that will not be entirely safe considering the rate we pollute the earth and oceans.
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DIGUSTING THEY RIP THE THROAT OUT OF THE FCKING COW AND KICK BLOOD IN ITS FACE WHILE THE COW THRASHING ABOUT OH MY FCKING GOD.
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KNN CHICKEN SMALL IT OK. COW IS SCUH A BIG ANIMAL WAH LAIO EH SO FCKING BIG
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Why not start to manage our desire and diet first? Lesser demand for meat = lesser animals being reared to be slaughtered.Originally posted by laurence82:Yes, but we still can take steps to prevent them
H5N1 is a good example of mismanaged farms.
Here's some statistics to share :
1) Millions of human beings in less-developed countries go hungry just so that a tiny minority of people can eat meat.
2) 75% of Third World imports of corn, barley, sorghum, and oats are fed to animals, not to hungry people.
3) More than 80% of corn and 95% of oats grown in US are fed to livestock in US.
4) The grains and soybeans that are fed to US livestock could feed 1.3 billion people.
5) The worldÂ’s cattle alone consume a quantity of food enough to feed more than the entire human population on Earth.
6) It takes 16 kg of grains to produce 1 kg of beef; as such, a person eating a meal of beef is depriving 15 other men from filling their stomach.
7) The same area of land can feed 20 times as many people eating a vegetarian diet than a meat diet. Never before in human history has such a large percentage, 25%, of our own human species been malnourished; never before has as great a percentage of human race been overweight.
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Land
1) Half of EarthÂ’s total land mass is used as pasture for cattle and other livestock.
2) 30% of land in USA is used as grazing land to feed cattle for slaughter.
3) More than 260 million acres of US forest
4) 75% of topsoil in US has been lost, and the meat industry is directly responsible for 85% of this loss (topsoil is the most valuable top part of the soil that sustain vegetation and it takes thousands of years to redeposit).
Water
1) It takes more than 25,000 litres of water to produce 1 kilogram of beef.
2) It takes 200 times more water to make a pound of beef than a pound of potatoes.
3) If the high water cost were not subsidized by the government, the cheapest hamburger meat would cost more than S$110 per kilogram.
Pollution
1) The meat industry is the single greatest polluter of our waters.
2) Animals raised for food produce 130 times as much excrement as the entire human population (Senate Agricultural Committee, 1997)
3) Livestock agriculture accounts for almost 40% of nitrogen and 35% of phosphorous that pollute US waters
4) Methane-emitting livestock contribute massively to the 'Greenhouse Effect' and global warming, accounting for 15 to 20% of global methane emissions.
Energy
1) Of all raw materials and fossil fuels used in US, 1/3 are used to raise animals for food
2) Producing one hamburger uses enough fossil fuel to drive a small car for 30 kilometres
3) Animal protein production requires more than 8 times as much fossil fuel energy as production of comparable amount of plant protein.
Species Extinction
1) More than 1000 species are becoming extinct every year due to destruction of tropical rainforests and related habitats.
2) Livestock grazing is the leading cause of species in US being threatened or eliminated –US Congress Accounting Office
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I am more of a realistic personOriginally posted by coolbluewater:Why not start to manage our desire and diet first? Lesser demand for meat = lesser animals being reared to be slaughtered.
Here's some statistics to share :
1) Millions of human beings in less-developed countries go hungry just so that a tiny minority of people can eat meat.
2) 75% of Third World imports of corn, barley, sorghum, and oats are fed to animals, not to hungry people.
3) More than 80% of corn and 95% of oats grown in US are fed to livestock in US.
4) The grains and soybeans that are fed to US livestock could feed 1.3 billion people.
5) The worldÂ’s cattle alone consume a quantity of food enough to feed more than the entire human population on Earth.
6) It takes 16 kg of grains to produce 1 kg of beef; as such, a person eating a meal of beef is depriving 15 other men from filling their stomach.
7) The same area of land can feed 20 times as many people eating a vegetarian diet than a meat diet. Never before in human history has such a large percentage, 25%, of our own human species been malnourished; never before has as great a percentage of human race been overweight.
(source : Vegetarian Society, Singapore)
Not that I am against slaughtering of animals, having seen inhumane treatment of videos shown at Guang Ming Shan Temple. But I believe its almost impossible to curb all desires of all humans, so its more practical to enforce hygienic and safe environment for the animals, including human slaughtering methods. -
Yes that is also very importantOriginally posted by laurence82:I am more of a realistic person
Not that I am against slaughtering of animals, having seen inhumane treatment of videos shown at Guang Ming Shan Temple. But I believe its almost impossible to curb all desires of all humans, so its more practical to enforce hygienic and safe environment for the animals, including human slaughtering methods. -
meat is cuisine...
enjoy it
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Your ego feels dull, but that is not your true self.Originally posted by ceecookie:meat is cuisine...
enjoy it
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why are there so many heads?Originally posted by rahula25:Everytime I see video clips like these...I considered many times whether I should become a vegetarian...
Namo da ci da bei guan shi yin pu sa...
when the buying stops, the killing can too.
Cut and paste Video Clips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPlPPY8AP8U&search=animal%20cruelty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If976...imal%20cruelty
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Originally posted by ceecookie:
ppl only like wat's put into the mouth with all the wonderful taste, but not wat that enter the stomach, be it that harm the body. ppl bais the mouth than the stomach. the heck with stomach they say.
meat is cuisine...
enjoy it
w/o cuisine u feel very dull
the trend will go on. it's like drug addiction or smoking. even though they KnoW that drug and smoking is harmful, they only prefer the temporary pleasure/enjoyment. heck care even if it lead to death.
this is habituos nature at work.
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There are several versions of the legend explaining his eleven heads, but they all resolve themselves into the following:Originally posted by dumbdumb!:why are there so many heads?
Avalokiteshvara, the all pitying one, descended into hell, converted the wicked, liberated them, and conducted them to Sukhavati, the paradise of his spiritual father, Amitabha.
He discovered, however, to his dismay, that for every culprit converted and liberated, another instantly took his place. Legend claims that his head split into ten pieces from grief and despair on discovering the extent of wickedness in the world, and the utter hopelessness of saving all mankind. Amitabha caused each piece to become a head, and placed the heads on the body of his spiritual son, Avalokitesvara. Nine of the heads have benign faces and are depicted in three rows; the tenth has an angry face, while the head at the top is that of Amitabha.
All the heads, except that of Amitabha, is crowned. In contrast to the floral crowns of the three rows of heads, the top wrathful head is adorned with a crown of skulls.
At a symbolic level, eight of the heads represent the cardinal directions and their intermediate points, and the other three signify the zenith, the center, and the nadir.
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ps: china often portray Guanyin as a motherly form while Tibetans often portray Guanyin as a Da zang fu(great gentleman).
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