"waking up in the Zzzz land...."
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please pardon me for the vagueness of the thread title. i am not good with words or creativity.
what could be a better title? hhmm.....
it is me or does anyone else also have this experience before?
here it goes....
it's quite a strange sleeping mode i experienced.
the mind seems to be floating between the dream realm and the waking realm. its like touching the surface of dream state where dreams start to form but at the same time, it is close to being awake.
i could have subtle dreams and hear my own snore (really
) at the same time and i could know what is going on at the present waking moment. it didn't take me long to wake up fully, just open eyes in an instant i am awake in the midst of dreaming and snoring (it becomes like echos in a split second). i don't feel drowsy like those lethargic times. and the interesting part is i thought this happening seemed to have taken place like for a few minutes a short while, but when i look at the clock, its like 2 or 3hours have passed. but i didn't feel i was really sleeping or have slept that long. but i know i have been resting snoring well away also.....
and, here i'd like to add on is that i have no sleep paralysis because i could move my body and mind freely without any struggles during this sleep pattern.
does anyone have any sharings as well?
moderators, please go ahead and close this thread if it is irrelevant. i understand. pardon me kekeee......
its late and i am still so awake tonight.
during meditation, the mind gets to be trained in mindfulness and sharp awareness. during sleep, i feel its a greater tougher training ground to practice mindfulness and awareness.
sometimes, i feel hopelessly falling into sleep like a dead log being hopelessly controlled by the dreams situation. when wake up it feels like lethargic. but when in those nights when i could stay awake in my dreams, i felt so energetic and awake when i wake up from the sleep.
its like a two different world...
no wonder.....
life's a dream.
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i felt that b4 too actually. i was having a dream then i wake up but i din open my eyes then i continue my dream lol
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i got two effects
one is like the one above, kinda like dream in a dream
the second type is like that, but find myself being stifled -
me also have this (half dream half awake moment) before, especially when one's greatly involve in contemplation, the consciousness wants to go back into the alaya, but part of it wants to stay thinking...but now no more though.
remind me of this song by Tang Yong Ling - walking in ban meng ban xing zhi jian...
the stifled effect is ghost pressing, when we are weak in yang energy, ghost would come and bully ppl. also have before, now no more. and yeah the scientists don't believe saying it's stress. okai no big deal.
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I see no reason this topic deserves to be closed.
Yes I agreed, the sleeping times are more difficult to practise mindfulness and it is easy to slip into the 'alaya scenes'. But it is also very important because there is a saying - it is harder to practise in life than in (sitting) meditation, more difficult to practise in sleep than in life, and even more difficult when death is approaching. Not exact words but something like that. So if we want to conquer death, we also need to conquer death in sleep. My shi fu taught us certain dharmas that are suitable to be practised during sleep, but it is inappropriate for me to discuss them here. Also 'wu wei fa' doesnt need to be 'cultivated' but only 'sustained' (chi2) - don't need xiu1, only chi2. But my practise is really lousy, so pai seh, I dont have such 'sleeping experience'
Maybe at a more advanced level...
But I can share what I learnt from others I heard. I have a young friend from my dharma centre however, his cultivation is quite strong and I believe has awakening experiences recently as he hinted in his essays (diary rather - he writes diary entries on his daily practise in living/meditation) and some of them which my teacher asked to be published on magazine. I requested to read some of them. I'll copy a bit here on his experience of Sleeping.
Another thing is my dharma teacher mentioned before she could remain lucid throughout her sleep, and she says 'it may be because of her meditation-before-sleep habits'. My shi fu and dharma teacher also mentioned, meditation will allow one to rest very well and be very awake the next day. If we look at the Chinese words 'Shui Jiao', the 'Jiao' is the same as 'Jue', so we should 'Jue Shui', 'mindful sleeping' In this way we will be very awake the next day.
One of our ex-moderator, Namelessness who no longer comes to the forum... who is also highly realised... bcos of his practise he can sleep very little yet isnt tired. He can go 4 days without sleeping, although he does sleep everyday la (a few hours)... as due to his busy schedule etc maybe he needs more rest.
Shakyamuni Buddha is known to sleep only one hour per day. I believe it is because of his 'mindful sleeping' and his meditation. Sometimes a little meditation can equate to lots of sleep. -
i once had a dream which really puzzles me up till this day.
i dreaming the way how i live my life everyday. it felt like i just woke upm go toilet wash up, iron my clothes, had breakfast, watch the news.
it felt so real. and then i woke up in the morning.
which i felt the real world is fake.
and i felt that i woke up in the real world is just my dream .. like now..
this feels just like a dream.
so, at that time, i was thinking, damn this real world feels like a dream, i shld go back to sleep and wake up back to the real world.
and then i went back, but couldnt sleep, just open my eyes and stare at the ceiling for like 10 mins..
then it occured to me, i wasnt dreaming. i am in the real world..
how weird... does anyone get me...
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Originally posted by geforce:i once had a dream which really puzzles me up till this day.
i dreaming the way how i live my life everyday. it felt like i just woke upm go toilet wash up, iron my clothes, had breakfast, watch the news.
it felt so real. and then i woke up in the morning.
which i felt the real world is fake.
and i felt that i woke up in the real world is just my dream .. like now..
this feels just like a dream.
so, at that time, i was thinking, damn this real world feels like a dream, i shld go back to sleep and wake up back to the real world.
and then i went back, but couldnt sleep, just open my eyes and stare at the ceiling for like 10 mins..
then it occured to me, i wasnt dreaming. i am in the real world..
how weird... does anyone get me...
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