Originally posted by justdoit77:I used to have this question some time ago.
In order for one to be born in western pure land, following are the requirements:
1) Take refuge of 3 triple gems
2) Vow to reborn in pureland
3) Keep 5 precepts, filial, ten good conducts, bodhicitta
4) Have certain level of meditation practise
The 1st 2 are rather easy to achieve, but the 3rd and 4th one are relatively difficult. How does one know if he can reborn in the pureland.
If one fail to "migrate" to pureland, will his karma resulted from his diligent practise towards pureland automatically allocate a "cultivation friendly" place for him.
I don't want to go to heaven, I may use up all my merits there. I want to go to a place that is suitable to continue cultivation for example, human realm or tushita heaven.
The late master yinshun encouraged his disciple to vow to go to tushita heaven bcoz of the lower entry barrier and most importantly, it is a heaven that one can listen to dharma spoken by maitreya bodhisatva, who is also the next to be buddha.
Western pureland is still better, but we should have contingency plan, isn't it?
There are many source talking abt the conditions and requirements to be born in buddha purelands.Originally posted by concerned_man:Just wondering where did you get the information from ?
Originally posted by justdoit77:I used to have this question some time ago.
In order for one to be born in western pure land, following are the requirements:
1) Take refuge of 3 triple gems
2) Vow to reborn in pureland
3) Keep 5 precepts, filial, ten good conducts, bodhicitta
4) Have certain level of meditation practise
The 1st 2 are rather easy to achieve, but the 3rd and 4th one are relatively difficult. How does one know if he can reborn in the pureland.
If one fail to "migrate" to pureland, will his karma resulted from his diligent practise towards pureland automatically allocate a "cultivation friendly" place for him.
I don't want to go to heaven, I may use up all my merits there. I want to go to a place that is suitable to continue cultivation for example, human realm or tushita heaven.
The late master yinshun encouraged his disciple to vow to go to tushita heaven bcoz of the lower entry barrier and most importantly, it is a heaven that one can listen to dharma spoken by maitreya bodhisatva, who is also the next to be buddha.
Western pureland is still better, but we should have contingency plan, isn't it?
Taking refuge does not necessarily determines what rebirth he will take. It depends on his karma.Originally posted by maggot:Question:
A person take refuge on sunday to become a buddhist...
Monday got killed by road accident
So where do the person go after death?![]()
ThanksOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:Taking refuge does not necessarily determines what rebirth he will take. It depends on his karma.

Then it is essential that you do not break the 5 precepts.Originally posted by maggot:I wished to be reborn back here![]()
One of the Buddhists here says that Western Pur Land is a state of mind rather than a physical location. So you might still be back on earth while reborn in the Western Pure Land.Originally posted by maggot:I wished to be reborn back here
There are still poor souls that needed help...so I would be selfish to leave for pureland and leave the poor souls here suffering without any assistance...![]()
Only when you have Pure Mind.Originally posted by casino_king:One of the Buddhists here says that Western Pur Land is a state of mind rather than a physical location. So you might still be back on earth while reborn in the Western Pure Land.
Do you understand Western Pure Land simply as a state of mind as well?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Only when you have Pure Mind.
Otherwise just like any other ordinary humans...
It is good that you have kindness towards them.Originally posted by maggot:I wished to be reborn back here
There are still poor souls that needed help...so I would be selfish to leave for pureland and leave the poor souls here suffering without any assistance...![]()
Originally posted by maggot:I wished to be reborn back here
There are still poor souls that needed help...so I would be selfish to leave for pureland and leave the poor souls here suffering without any assistance...![]()
itÂ’s more profound than that, itÂ’s neither physical non not physical. when thereÂ’s duality, big/small, long/short, good/evil, high/low...thatÂ’s still within samsara state.Originally posted by casino_king:One of the Buddhists here says that Western Pur Land is a state of mind rather than a physical location. So you might still be back on earth while reborn in the Western Pure Land.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:talking abt precept. i heard that when u uphold the precepts. the benefit is that even if u break it and end up in the lower realms, u will be reborn back to the human or heavenly realms, sooner than other beings. hence precept is one of BuddhaÂ’s most precious gift.
Then it is essential that you do not break the 5 precepts.[/b]
Originally posted by justdoit77:i concur. Amituofo!
it is good that you have kindness towards them.
If you go to pureland and come back again, you are an enlightened bodhisatva with great meta and wisdomalready.
Isn't it that a bodhisatva will save more people and at a more efficient way.
Have you ever want to help some pathetic innocent victims or do some good deeds yet not able to do it because lack of resource, power or wisdom.
If you want to help them, you must cultivate diligently.[/b]