"Moral values are on the decline." Do you agree?
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look at all those cults, 'living' buddhas, prohets. and disco churches around you. look at the number of their followers. look at how brainwashed and without logic these people are. dont think such $hit exisited in an earlier generation eh?
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I do not think aggressive wars can benefit himself and others... it is like taking other's for one's benefit.Originally posted by NotFromVenus:In India , for thousands of years , leaders thought they wage wars to benefit "Majority".
All of them(Maharajas) assumed righteousness and morality?
You traded Bad Karma for this sense of Morality?
Then there isn't any morality to what was mentioned earlier " Not to bring harm upon others and to self."
but if we are to defend then we should bcos we are not taking other ppl's thing but just protecting our interest... of cos it is near impossible to be fully moral even in defense but at least we shld be responsible for the country -
aiyo.. better not offend othersOriginally posted by killstyle:look at all those cults, 'living' buddhas, prohets. and disco churches around you. look at the number of their followers. look at how brainwashed and without logic these people are. dont think such $hit exisited in an earlier generation eh?
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So assuming Morality can bring about an organisation which feeds on charity and the toils of others without actually doing any work other than to teach what is assumed of morality?Originally posted by killstyle:look at all those cults, 'living' buddhas, prohets. and disco churches around you. look at the number of their followers. look at how brainwashed and without logic these people are. dont think such $hit exisited in an earlier generation eh?
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anyway regarding morality:
posted a year agoOriginally posted by sinweiy:How to define Dao De? Even scholars had difficult time defining it.
Come across a wonderful analogy by MKY.
'Dao' is a skill. Knowing how to swim is 'Dao'.
'De' or virtue is seeing a person drowning in the water, and you are willing to jump into the water and save him/her.
Dao is associated with 'self'. While De is associated with others. Self and others combine into One.
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Meaning you have the ability to kill the robber , you will kill the robber to return what was stolen from the pauper who cannot feed himself but beg in the streets?
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kill the robber in return for something small is not worth it.. because u use the wrong method to get back the things and it creates more harm to others than it is beneficial to urself.. it is quite clear. law also have different level mah... i dont think robbing deserve death sentence. and i believe a beggar wont have much to be stolen... if u're kind enough u can simply give the beggar some money to survive.Originally posted by NotFromVenus:Meaning you have the ability to kill the robber , you will kill the robber to return what was stolen to the pauper who cannot feed himself but beg in the streets? -
Which means that you will fall for the trick that the pauper hires the robber to run away , and pauper shouts Thief ! Thief !Originally posted by An Eternal Now:kill the robber in return for something small is not worth it.. because u use the wrong method to get back the things and it creates more harm to others than it is beneficial to urself.. it is quite clear. law also have different level mah... i dont think robbing deserve death sentence. and i believe a beggar wont have much to be stolen... if u're kind enough u can simply give the beggar some money to survive.
And you will perform charity ! (Please dial N&#F hotline ! ) -
the analogy is also to mean Dao is wisdom, de is mean compassion. hence morality is wisdom + compassion.
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You may also wish to take reference from the moral values defined by the previous generations, cos what's accepted now may not be accepted then. One example I could think of which is not that controversial (so that I won't offend anybodyOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:I see.. thanks! 
) is the custom of kneeling to offer tea to elders at a wedding. In the past, if you don't, you are not showing respect. Now, nobody does that. -
I see.. gd point.. thanksOriginally posted by coolbluewater:You may also wish to take reference from the moral values defined by the previous generations, cos what's accepted now may not be accepted then. One example I could think of which is not that controversial (so that I won't offend anybody) is the custom of kneeling to offer tea to elders at a wedding. In the past, if you don't, you are not showing respect. Now, nobody does that. 
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Parent and children should possess close relationship;
Ruler and statesmen should possess righteousness;
Husband and wife should possess distinction;
Elder and young should possess order;
Friend should possess trust.
Buddha Dharma stress on actual substance, than on appearance or ritual.
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I have been looking for this in Chinese. Thanks.Originally posted by sinweiy:
Parent and children should possess close relationship;
Ruler and statesmen should possess righteousness;
Husband and wife should possess distinction;
Elder and young should possess order;
Friend should possess trust.
Buddha Dharma stress on actual substance, than on appearance or ritual.
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When you write GP, you should take NotFromVenus advice.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:One needs wisdom to see the effect and whether it harms one and others before committing cause. In this way I believe one's actions will be morally upright.
"moral values are on the decline" implies some sort of moral judgements and therefore requires you to define the moral rules which is a topic closely related to ethics.
Christian Ethics, Buddhist Ethics, Professional Ethics, Internet Ethics...etc
The set of principles by which a community abides.
And comparing against which and what period? -
We become 'clever beast'...Originally posted by gasband:yeah precisely, all these guidelines are borne in us? or we are being taught all these at a later stage of our lives? Are morals already in us but what happen to us later in our lives clouds our actions and judgements?
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ok.. hmm i not doing GP yet.. just a general english essay heheOriginally posted by Thusness:When you write GP, you should take NotFromVenus advice.
"moral values are on the decline" implies some sort of moral judgements and therefore requires you to define the moral rules which is a topic closely related to ethics.
Christian Ethics, Buddhist Ethics, Professional Ethics, Internet Ethics...etc
The set of principles by which a community abides.
And comparing against which and what period? -
Then it's really such an in-depth subject we're looking at now... Isn't it?Originally posted by NotFromVenus:Yes , a troop of creatures eating bananas with Fork and Spoons cannot be considered civilized .
- They are still Monkeys trying to imitate Humans on the dining table.
Simply said that it doesn't mean that you stop hurting other creatures , makes you more civilized than others.
What truly differentiates humans from animals (supposingly)....? And what give rise to 'moral' in humans...? Why 'civilisation'....? Do you know that 'civilisation' is not a word solely applicable to humans only...? -
Do you think that this could very well be the rationale behind Muslim 'terrorists'....?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:I do not think aggressive wars can benefit himself and others... it is like taking other's for one's benefit.
but if we are to defend then we should bcos we are not taking other ppl's thing but just protecting our interest... of cos it is near impossible to be fully moral even in defense but at least we shld be responsible for the country -
hmm.. have to think about itOriginally posted by Devil1976:Do you think that this could very well be the rationale behind Muslim 'terrorists'....?
what muslim terrorists? like al qaeda? i tink those al qaeda people even if they felt that their land is attacked isnt defending their land, they are retaliating aggressively and killing innocent civilians... otherwise they should spend their effort on defending their own land.