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oic....
think i found some info on kundalini.
yeah in different cultures it is called differently. like maybe in tibetan, it is perhaps like tantra? i don't know.......
well, it is entertaining to read and also a side desert to enjoy while in the nature of gradual cultivation.
i think it is not all the time a nice thing to feel at all. (at least from my point of experiencing somethings).
remember, AEN? think there was a time when i told you that i was experiencing something about a sudden occurence of the mind? i don't wish to disclose the actual thing here. yeah could be one of the symptoms. but till today occasionally i do feel it but i am still stopping it from becoming.
hehee.... maybe you don't understand.
but its ok. think no one understands also heheee
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I think Kundalini is call Tumo in Tibetan.
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Interesting stuff which I came upon by surprise in the internet. http://www.saintandrew.org/html/sj_books.html - a Roman Catholic Church that introduces books by Eckhart Tolle and Zen Master Thich Naht Hanh and a mystical book 'dark night of the soul'. This catholic church practises 'centering prayer' practise, which is according to http://www.saintandrew.org/html/moreaboutcp.html,
Contemplative Prayer is an ancient Christian practice developed primarily in Monasteries. It is a process of interior purification leading, if we consent, to divine union. Based on developing the grace of Baptism and the regular practice of reading and meditating on the scriptures, contemplation opens our minds and hearts, our whole being, to God, the ultimate mystery.
Contemplative Prayer is a practise by Trappists... which is also a contemplative Roman Catholic order. Trappists is also a mystical path.
What I feel is because mystical elements are more common in Roman Catholic it is generally more accepting towards other religions (i.e Pope John Paul 2)
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Another interesting Catholic tradition (non roman catholic tradition) - http://www.wrmosb.org/default.html - that also follows the St. Benedict Order . These monks practise Zazen. -
interesting articles.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Interesting stuff which I came upon by surprise in the internet. http://www.saintandrew.org/html/sj_books.html - a Roman Catholic Church that introduces books by Eckhart Tolle and Zen Master Thich Naht Hanh and a mystical book 'dark night of the soul'. This catholic church practises 'centering prayer' practise, which is according to http://www.saintandrew.org/html/moreaboutcp.html,
Contemplative Prayer is an ancient Christian practice developed primarily in Monasteries. It is a process of interior purification leading, if we consent, to divine union. Based on developing the grace of Baptism and the regular practice of reading and meditating on the scriptures, contemplation opens our minds and hearts, our whole being, to God, the ultimate mystery.
Contemplative Prayer is a practise by Trappists... which is also a contemplative Roman Catholic order. Trappists is also a mystical path.
What I feel is because mystical elements are more common in Roman Catholic it is generally more accepting towards other religions (i.e Pope John Paul 2)
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Another interesting Catholic tradition (non roman catholic tradition) - http://www.wrmosb.org/default.html - that also follows the St. Benedict Order . These monks practise Zazen.
will read them through.
thanks for sharing with us
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i see thanks. i have gathered a little info on tumo....Originally posted by longchen:I think Kundalini is call Tumo in Tibetan.
Tumo is the Tibetan Buddhist technique of keeping warm.
The technique enables you to keep warm in spite of snow, freezing winds and ice.
Tumo is a meditation that channels mystical heat through the veins, arteries and nerve channels which enables you to remain warm during these freezing conditions.
The Tibetan Buddhists believe that knowledge of Tumo sharpens the mental faculties of perception and intuition.
Tumo is a Tibetan term for an advanced type of contemplative practice, or meditation. The most common usage of the term is however related to the description of intense sensations of body heat, that are said to be a partial effect of the practice of Tummo-meditation.
Tumo is taught as one part of the six yogas of Naropa. Stories and eyewitness accounts abound of yogi practitioners being able to generate sufficient heat to dry wet sheets draped around their naked bodies while sitting outside in the freezing cold, not just once, but multiple times.
One of the most famous practioners of Tumo was perhaps the Tibetan Buddhist saint, Milarepa. Modern western witnesses of this practice include the adventurer Alexandra David-Neel (David-Neel, 1971), and Lama Anagarika Govinda (Govinda, 1988 ).
While the practice could be said to have some practical benefit in the frigid climate of Tibet, it cannot be said to be cultivated merely for the sake of keeping warm, but is rather a side-effect of a religiously oriented intensive meditation practice, and is understood to be the outward manifestation of an inward state of religious ecstasy or Yogic Enlightenment.
Similar experiences of a mystic fire have also been described among practitioners of other contemplative paths, such as the Sufi Irina Tweedie, and among practitioners of Kundalini Yoga.
It is not considered wise to engage in the practice of Tumo, or any other intense form of meditation, without the supervison of a credible teacher or guide, or without thorough psychological and physiological preparation. Intense, or unsupervised forms of meditation, might sometimes lead to substantial meditation-related problems.
A great esoteric tradition developed in the Himalayan vastness of the Tibetan plateau. Over centuries of isolation, this unique culture investigated the mysteries of mind and magic to a degree never before attempted.
Tumo, the ability to stave off the cold by stimulating the chakras and energy channels of the body; light trance states to recall past lives; manipulation of energies via sound, rhythm, chanting, and drumming; and the spiritual practice of dream yoga.
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If no one wants to take over
it will not be deleted
it will still be there until someone will appear
I think someone out there have the capacity far more than me to lead this forum
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Yes Paperflower,Originally posted by paperflower:i see thanks. i have gathered a little info on tumo....
Tumo is the Tibetan Buddhist technique of keeping warm.
The technique enables you to keep warm in spite of snow, freezing winds and ice.
Tumo is a meditation that channels mystical heat through the veins, arteries and nerve channels which enables you to remain warm during these freezing conditions.
The Tibetan Buddhists believe that knowledge of Tumo sharpens the mental faculties of perception and intuition.
Tumo is a Tibetan term for an advanced type of contemplative practice, or meditation. The most common usage of the term is however related to the description of intense sensations of body heat, that are said to be a partial effect of the practice of Tummo-meditation.
Tumo is taught as one part of the six yogas of Naropa. Stories and eyewitness accounts abound of yogi practitioners being able to generate sufficient heat to dry wet sheets draped around their naked bodies while sitting outside in the freezing cold, not just once, but multiple times.
One of the most famous practioners of Tumo was perhaps the Tibetan Buddhist saint, Milarepa. Modern western witnesses of this practice include the adventurer Alexandra David-Neel (David-Neel, 1971), and Lama Anagarika Govinda (Govinda, 1988 ).
While the practice could be said to have some practical benefit in the frigid climate of Tibet, it cannot be said to be cultivated merely for the sake of keeping warm, but is rather a side-effect of a religiously oriented intensive meditation practice, and is understood to be the outward manifestation of an inward state of religious ecstasy or Yogic Enlightenment.
Similar experiences of a mystic fire have also been described among practitioners of other contemplative paths, such as the Sufi Irina Tweedie, and among practitioners of Kundalini Yoga.
It is not considered wise to engage in the practice of Tumo, or any other intense form of meditation, without the supervison of a credible teacher or guide, or without thorough psychological and physiological preparation. Intense, or unsupervised forms of meditation, might sometimes lead to substantial meditation-related problems.
A great esoteric tradition developed in the Himalayan vastness of the Tibetan plateau. Over centuries of isolation, this unique culture investigated the mysteries of mind and magic to a degree never before attempted.
Tumo, the ability to stave off the cold by stimulating the chakras and energy channels of the body; light trance states to recall past lives; manipulation of energies via sound, rhythm, chanting, and drumming; and the spiritual practice of dream yoga.
Real tumo of course is the tantric meditation itself.
There is a documentary film about Tummo. Been searching for it. -
Merry Meet To All,
Whats the topic? Working with Kundalini? Awakening the serpent in you? Tantric Practice? Working with Red Tantra? Interesting indeed.
Blessed Be,
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hmm
please refrain engaging in tantric only if you have gone through the proper initiation
I am seriously concerned abt this -
really?Originally posted by Thusness:Yes Paperflower,
There is a documentary film about Tummo. Been searching for it.
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Originally posted by OCEANOS:
hi oceanos,
[b]Merry Meet To All,
Whats the topic? Working with Kundalini? Awakening the serpent in you? Tantric Practice? Working with Red Tantra? Interesting indeed.
Blessed Be,
Oceanos[/b]
yeah for some side knowledge , its interesting to know what is what.
came across from another thread of stuff like kundalini, k-serpent, k-energy and i have no idea what they were. though they lead to some clues to what various spirituality is, i realise that spirituality is indeed a vast area where one either gets lost or progress well on the right path.
as for tantric practices, i have never touched on any because i don't have a qualified master to guide me on that. but interested to know. but as i am not one who has the full time vocation of a monastic desciplined life, don't think i would have the enough attention and focus to practice on any tantra. its not for anyone i guess.
what's red tantra?
would you like to share some of what you know?
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oic...Originally posted by bohiruci:hmm
please refrain engaging in tantric only if you have gone through the proper initiation
I am seriously concerned abt this
ok noted.
tibetan buddhism really have alot of secret teachings, seems like endless....
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From my understanding and from discussion with mystical friends, the linear chakra formation of Hinduism (Kundalini) is incomplete. The complete energy circuit of our subtle body are close loops which is described in Taoism qi-gong as... microscopic orbit (xiao zhou tian) and macroscopic orbit( da zhou tian). People has postulated that doing the Hindu kundalini practice can cause problems...because of the incomplete linear energy flow...causing energy to get accumulated and stuck at the end points.
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I couldn't agree more! In fact any form of practice that involves intense concentration and visualization requires the guidance of truly qualified master. I had really bad experience when practicing on my own Šï–å“Ù�b“V�‘ (a form of Taoist practice) that made me suffered 10 years of insomnia. Your concern is most valid.Originally posted by bohiruci:hmm
please refrain engaging in tantric only if you have gone through the proper initiation
I am seriously concerned abt this
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Hope you are able find a suitable candidate for your mandala_blessing. I am a businessman, my mind is full of $$$. Definitely not in the capacity to help... -
yah...I agree.
Kundalini better dun play play. Got people die from it even.
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yes i would agree with you and bohiruci and those who have the same sentiments.Originally posted by Thusness:I couldn't agree more! In fact any form of practice that involves intense concentration and visualization requires the guidance of truly qualified master. I had really bad experience when practicing on my own Šï–å“Ù�b“V�‘ (a form of Taoist practice) that made me suffered 10 years of insomnia. Your concern is most valid.
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Hope you are able find a suitable candidate for your mandala_blessing. I am a businessman, my mind is full of $$$. Definitely not in the capacity to help...
and also as for bohiruci who have selected me - paperflower as one of the standing candidates, think i won't be able to be a wise enough person to handle mandala_blessing forum. i am also a businesswoman who now my main is to focus to make my business successful for i have goals to attain for the future.
and for all out there, like thusness and bohiruci said, please do have a guidance to guide u well if u were to practice well spiritually, meditation, buddha's teaching. its not a copy-cat sentiment of mine. for there are some secrets i am holding which i will not reveal, take that advise seriously (especially when comes to meditation).
its really "no fun" if you do not practice on the right track. believe me. it is not what one would think as easy said than done, close eyes, detach, breathe in out..... there are more to it when one reach a certain level. and thats why.... and thus buddha took 6 years meditating to become enlightened. do u think it is an easy journey?
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Yeah...Originally posted by longchen:yah...I agree.
Kundalini better dun play play. Got people die from it even.
In a lounge, normally is "drunk alive and dream dead". Shouldn't die from practicing quan shen chou tian or kundalini.
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Jus came across this clip by this American Joseph Campbell, explaining the basics of buddhism, including the difference between the two main traditions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxzeGeyMUhA
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Two formulas:Originally posted by paperflower:yes i would agree with you and bohiruci and those who have the same sentiments.
and also as for bohiruci who have selected me - paperflower as one of the standing candidates, think i won't be able to be a wise enough person to handle mandala_blessing forum. i am also a businesswoman who now my main is to focus to make my business successful for i have goals to attain for the future.
and for all out there, like thusness and bohiruci said, please do have a guidance to guide u well if u were to practice well spiritually, meditation, buddha's teaching. its not a copy-cat sentiment of mine. for there are some secrets i am holding which i will not reveal, take that advise seriously (especially when comes to meditation).
its really "no fun" if you do not practice on the right track. believe me. it is not what one would think as easy said than done, close eyes, detach, breathe in out..... there are more to it when one reach a certain level. and thats why.... and thus buddha took 6 years meditating to become enlightened. do u think it is an easy journey?
may you all be well and progress well.
(chinese)
Success = right time + right space + right human relationship
(western)
Success = (opportunity + education + hardwork) ^LUCK
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Thanks, I have a lot of respect for him. Clear a lot of my misconceptions about mythology.Originally posted by coolbluewater:Jus came across this clip by this American Joseph Campbell, explaining the basics of buddhism, including the difference between the two main traditions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxzeGeyMUhA -
nice....Originally posted by coolbluewater:Jus came across this clip by this American Joseph Campbell, explaining the basics of buddhism, including the difference between the two main traditions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxzeGeyMUhA -
thanks, same to you too!Originally posted by Thusness:Two formulas:
(chinese)
Success = right time + right space + right human relationship
(western)
Success = (opportunity + education + hardwork) ^LUCK
Wish you success!
hhmm..... how about a combination of both?
east meets west -
i came across articles that people also became mad when they practiced kundalini, leading to commiting suicide.Originally posted by longchen:yah...I agree.
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Yeah,Originally posted by paperflower:thanks, same to you too!
hhmm..... how about a combination of both?
east meets west
Maybe this is a better formula:
Success = (opportunity + education + hardwork) ^ (right time + right space + right human relationship)
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Originally posted by Thusness:Yeah,
Maybe this is a better formula:
Success = (opportunity + education + hardwork) ^ (right time + right space + right human relationship)
beautiful.....