Need help !!! Urgent !!! True case !!!
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If one day , someone were to tell you that the hell police hei bai wu chang wants to possess your body to be his medium to conduct trance etc . Is there anyway to prevent that ? Cos it is very well known that when any particular taoist god no matter heaven or hell god wants to possess your body to do trance ( so call save pple ) , there is no escape . even if you go oversea or object to it strongly . It is heard that even if you are of different religion eg christian , they will still insist you be their medium to the extent of making your life very difficult even to the extent of making you go mad or even forcefully going into your body possessing you untill you agree to their demand to be their mediums . What i want to know is , is there any way to prevent that from happening ? Especially to prevent them from going into your body without your consent or knowledge . Please help , urgent + true case happening . And hor will chanting om mani pad me om help to prevent him from forcefully entering your body ??? Because once they succeeded in making you their medium , you have to be their medium doing ritual n trance etc for 7 years . No joke !!!
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There are drugs that can prevent trances
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Visit the khenpo for advise... and maybe share with us..
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Sorry hor tis is Buddhism forum NOT Superstitious forum or chinese folk belief forum and yes why not listen to AEN and visit khenpo for advise and share with us ... thnksOriginally posted by TWE:If one day , someone were to tell you that the hell police hei bai wu chang wants to possess your body to be his medium to conduct trance etc . Is there anyway to prevent that ? Cos it is very well known that when any particular taoist god no matter heaven or hell god wants to possess your body to do trance ( so call save pple ) , there is no escape . even if you go oversea or object to it strongly . It is heard that even if you are of different religion eg christian , they will still insist you be their medium to the extent of making your life very difficult even to the extent of making you go mad or even forcefully going into your body possessing you untill you agree to their demand to be their mediums . What i want to know is , is there any way to prevent that from happening ? Especially to prevent them from going into your body without your consent or knowledge . Please help , urgent + true case happening . And hor will chanting om mani pad me om help to prevent him from forcefully entering your body ??? Because once they succeeded in making you their medium , you have to be their medium doing ritual n trance etc for 7 years . No joke !!!
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Originally posted by neutral_onliner:
I think you misunderstand him. He isn't really willing to go into this, but somehow forced to.
Sorry hor tis is Buddhism forum [b]NOT Superstitious forum or chinese folk belief forum and yes why not listen to AEN and visit khenpo for advise and share with us ... thnks [/b]
Personally I would not be scared of such situations and believe that triple gems will surely protect us. I will seek my teacher for advises. -
Oh..i see..ok...thnksOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:I think you misunderstand him. He isn't really willing to go into this, but somehow forced to.
Personally I would not be scared of such situations and believe that triple gems will surely protect us. I will seek my teacher for advises. -
If the khenpo isnt around today, try to find out when he'll be coming back.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Visit the khenpo for advise... and maybe share with us.. -
Originally posted by neutral_onliner:
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Sorry hor tis is Buddhism forum [b]NOT Superstitious forum or chinese folk belief forum and yes why not listen to AEN and visit khenpo for advise and share with us ... thnks [/b] -
Originally posted by neutral_onliner:
Yes Neutral_Onliner , he is genuine interested in Buddhism , just that it is some personal issue which i will not share
Sorry hor tis is Buddhism forum [b]NOT Superstitious forum or chinese folk belief forum and yes why not listen to AEN and visit khenpo for advise and share with us ... thnks [/b]
He is my fren ,anything , please sms me -
Call upon Ksitigarbha Earth Store Bodhisattva (Di Zang Wang Pu Sa), they will sure to give face.Originally posted by TWE:If one day , someone were to tell you that the hell police hei bai wu chang wants to possess your body to be his medium to conduct trance etc . Is there anyway to prevent that ? Cos it is very well known that when any particular taoist god no matter heaven or hell god wants to possess your body to do trance ( so call save pple ) , there is no escape . even if you go oversea or object to it strongly . It is heard that even if you are of different religion eg christian , they will still insist you be their medium to the extent of making your life very difficult even to the extent of making you go mad or even forcefully going into your body possessing you untill you agree to their demand to be their mediums . What i want to know is , is there any way to prevent that from happening ? Especially to prevent them from going into your body without your consent or knowledge . Please help , urgent + true case happening . And hor will chanting om mani pad me om help to prevent him from forcefully entering your body ??? Because once they succeeded in making you their medium , you have to be their medium doing ritual n trance etc for 7 years . No joke !!!
u got to go thru the mara topic, esp the Demonic Realms link:
http://www.ymba.org/BWF/bwf73.htm#demonicrealms
Ancient masters have said:
When we see demons yet remain undisturbed, the demons self-destruct; when we see ghosts yet remain undisturbed, the ghosts are vanquished.
in other word, one must be steady in the mind, we called it in samathi, fearless in a way when reciting Buddha's or Bodhisattva's name, mantra(om mani padme hum) or sutra.
they will be more afraid of u than u to them
that say ghosts/spirits are 70% more afraid then human while we human are 30% afraid of them.
lastly, one also have to transfer one's merit (ie huai1 xiang1) to them. May they be free from suffering, take refuge in Triple Gem and quickly be liberated into the higher realms. use compassion, loving kindness to touch them.
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Originally posted by sinweiy:
thanks for your good suggestion , but the rest i leave it to him
Call upon Ksitigarbha Earth Store Bodhisattva (Di Zang Wang Pu Sa), they will sure to give face.
u got to go thru the mara topic, esp the Demonic Realms link:
http://www.ymba.org/BWF/bwf73.htm#demonicrealms
[b]Ancient masters have said:
When we see demons yet remain undisturbed, the demons self-destruct; when we see ghosts yet remain undisturbed, the ghosts are vanquished.
in other word, one must be steady in the mind, we called it in samathi, fearless in a way when reciting Buddha's or Bodhisattva's name, mantra(om mani padme hum) or sutra.
they will be more afraid of u than u to them
that say ghosts/spirits are 70% more afraid then human while we human are 30% afraid of them.
lastly, one also have to transfer one's merit (ie huai1 xiang1) to them. May they be free from suffering, take refuge in Triple Gem and quickly be liberated into the higher realms. use compassion, loving kindness to touch them.
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basically since it is his issue ,we just share what we can to him
the rest is up to him
he is my fren , we leave the decision to him -
i think its best he avoid taoist activities and refraining from entering taoist temples..
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Interesting.
I had a friend who was a little like this.. except it was spirits that kept approaching her. Ever since she was young, she has spirits that approached her and asked her to pass messages. She was terrified and refused. Sometimes, they would become 'violent' and she would wake up with bruises on her arms etc. Eventually she said she went to temple for help, and monk taught her a buddhist chant which she would chant whenever the spirits come near her. -
My understanding from Master Chin Kung is that, negotiation with the spirit may help. These spirits are probably "Yuan Jia" with affinity. Offer them some suggestions for example dedicating deeds to them etc. Most of the smarter ones should be able to accept it.
You may need some really good negotiators who have the experienced in this. -
Have you practised concentration without proper guidance especially in focusing between the eyebrow? Cos this can open up the channel for medium.Originally posted by TWE:If one day , someone were to tell you that the hell police hei bai wu chang wants to possess your body to be his medium to conduct trance etc . Is there anyway to prevent that ? Cos it is very well known that when any particular taoist god no matter heaven or hell god wants to possess your body to do trance ( so call save pple ) , there is no escape . even if you go oversea or object to it strongly . It is heard that even if you are of different religion eg christian , they will still insist you be their medium to the extent of making your life very difficult even to the extent of making you go mad or even forcefully going into your body possessing you untill you agree to their demand to be their mediums . What i want to know is , is there any way to prevent that from happening ? Especially to prevent them from going into your body without your consent or knowledge . Please help , urgent + true case happening . And hor will chanting om mani pad me om help to prevent him from forcefully entering your body ??? Because once they succeeded in making you their medium , you have to be their medium doing ritual n trance etc for 7 years . No joke !!!
I am told by a friend.. thusness, that There are several reasons, it can arise due to karmic affinity, it can arise due to karmic debt, it can arise due to wrong practices. If he practice concentration without proper guide especially focusing in between the eyebrown, it might open up the channel for medium. Without proper guidance, this could happen.
If it is due to karmic affinity and karmic debt, then i think it is easier to solve as the experience negotiator can do something about it. But if one practices wrongly, that level stays and is open...this can be quite troublesome. -
Yes thats right. Often this needs to be done.. if you want to overcome yourself without such help with negotiators, then you must be prepared to suffer many years, it can take years and depending on your practice... no doctors can help. We must start practising the dharma diligently ourselves to overcome such situations. If you practice no-self and is able to experience presence in the correct way, it does not affect you. Because there will be no entry point. When we are constantly authenticated by Presence and there is no entry for that trance level to take place. That level of consciousness does not exist. No external forces can forcefully create that communication unless it is open due to some reason. Due to lack of proper practices.Originally posted by concerned_man:My understanding from Master Chin Kung is that, negotiation with the spirit may help. These spirits are probably "Yuan Jia" with affinity. Offer them some suggestions for example dedicating deeds to them etc. Most of the smarter ones should be able to accept it.
You may need some really good negotiators who have the experienced in this.
Thats wat i learnt from thusness. -
Provided that one delivers what has been been promised - eg dedicating good merits to them etc.
Regardless of religion practices, if negotiation ( "tiao jie" )is done sincerely and properly, it will be very helpful.
I've not come across this myself, but have friends who can easily attracts spirits. One had such experiences only when small, loses this after grew up. The other still has this even after retirement.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Yes thats right. Often this needs to be done.. if you want to overcome yourself without such help with negotiators, then you must be prepared to suffer many years. Thats wat i learnt from thusness. -
I see... yes thats right.Originally posted by concerned_man:Provided that one delivers what has been been promised - eg dedicating good merits to them etc.
Regardless of religion practices, if negotiation ("tiao jie") is done sincerely and properly, it will be very helpful.
I've not come across this myself, but have friends who can easily attracts spirits. -
Hav u encounter any case where some pple make use of spirits to predict 4DOriginally posted by concerned_man:Provided that one delivers what has been been promised - eg dedicating good merits to them etc.
Regardless of religion practices, if negotiation ( "tiao jie" )is done sincerely and properly, it will be very helpful.
I've not come across this myself, but have friends who can easily attracts spirits. One had such experiences only when small, loses this after grew up. The other still has this even after retirement.
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ok thnxsOriginally posted by bohiruci:Yes Neutral_Onliner , he is genuine interested in Buddhism , just that it is some personal issue which i will not share
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It can work.. cos spirits have certain powers. But ultimately its ur karma. Otherwise its not really urs and will be gone. And usually they will demand something and if you offend them you're in trouble.Originally posted by neutral_onliner:Hav u encounter any case where some pple make use of spirits to predict 4D -
got like tt meh >> 12 trance ur body suddenly...
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hi concerned_man , but i dun think it is that easy to find a good negotiatorOriginally posted by concerned_man:My understanding from Master Chin Kung is that, negotiation with the spirit may help. These spirits are probably "Yuan Jia" with affinity. Offer them some suggestions for example dedicating deeds to them etc. Most of the smarter ones should be able to accept it.
You may need some really good negotiators who have the experienced in this.
medium and medium practise comes from the practice of Mt Mao ,so its very hard to see a someone who is a Mt Mao practitioner yet willing to help -
anyway , to be frank
Taoist issue must be settled by taoist community
we dun want to incur their wrath
as for many centuries in china in dynastic , our teachings was denounced when some evil taoist monks slandering Buddhism
just have to be careful becos now watever we said is governed by IRO
InterReligious Organisation
I told this to him to get taoist practitioner who have a higher "level"
in the hierachy of medium to help him bah