Should i get a Kumanthong?
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Instead of seeking celestial being's blessing, you may want to look into attending a course of business managment. There's a Hokkien Song that sang : 30% by affinity, and 70% by self reliance.Originally posted by waliao:Looking at e options available now. Will see what is best. Thanks for the information provided anyway.
No prize for guessing the name of that song.
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Ai Pia~~~Jiat Eh Eiah~~~
Hello waliao,
Lord Buddha taught us practical approach to problems we face in our lives. Not to pour you cold blanket, if business is bad, have you find out what are the factors that caused?
Location? Service? Standard? Brand name? etc...
Getting one of these pendants or spiritual blessings is definitely not advisable.
So what if it really proves to work? There's no free lunch in the world, we definitely won't know what are the complications after it.
Remeber to be calm and composed in all matters, Singapore is definitely not an easy place to live in.
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By saying such thing U have already exposed to us ur wrong view on Buddhism. Such actions r really against the FUNDAMENTAL teaching of the BUDDHA. Pls spend some time to really learn and understand the CORRECT teaching of buddha and tis will help u to understanding the TRUE meaning of BUDDHISM.Originally posted by waliao:I want a Kumanthong but I am a Buddhist.Can I?
I heard Kumanthong is made by Monks. So is it ok if i get one? Not against buddhist teachings,right?
And yes my dear fren harryryan u too
May both of you have the wisdom to awaken from ur wrong views -
Originally posted by neutral_onliner:
erm, relaz ....they arent not that well-versed in Buddhism
By saying such thing U have already exposed to us ur wrong view on Buddhism. Such actions r really against the FUNDAMENTAL teaching of the BUDDHA. Pls spend some time to really learn and understand the CORRECT teaching of buddha and tis will help u to understanding the TRUE meaning of BUDDHISM.
And yes my dear fren [b]harryryan u too
May both of you have the wisdom to awaken from ur wrong views [/b]
be understanding ... I mean business failure ,one tends to be desperate ...
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Hope that he will have the wisdom,courage and support to get thru tis. Always think positively. Relax and be happy.Originally posted by bohiruci:erm, relaz ....they arent not that well-versed in Buddhism
be understanding ... I mean business failure ,one tends to be desperate ...
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I had a weird dream last night. I was chanting e heart sutra when I felt a blue faced buddha appear b4 me n touched me on my back.any idea wat this means?
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You mean pat you on the back or touch you on the back?Originally posted by waliao:I had a weird dream last night. I was chanting e heart sutra when I felt a blue faced buddha appear b4 me n touched me on my back.any idea wat this means? -
hmmm.... should be touch cos the last thing i remember about e dream was his hand on my back. not much of a movement there. at least not like i remember to be so.Originally posted by path_seeker:You mean pat you on the back or touch you on the back? -
Well a dream is just a dream, let it go.Originally posted by waliao:hmmm.... should be touch cos the last thing i remember about e dream was his hand on my back. not much of a movement there. at least not like i remember to be so.
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a dream probably is just a dream... butOriginally posted by waliao:I had a weird dream last night. I was chanting e heart sutra when I felt a blue faced buddha appear b4 me n touched me on my back.any idea wat this means?
blue-faced buddha?
hmm.. Medicine Buddha?
or maybe you can see it in the way that you have an affinity with the Medicine Buddha anbd He wants to connect with you.
Can try to chant His mantra more and follow the Vairdurya path. -
Blue face is medicine BuddhaOriginally posted by waliao:I had a weird dream last night. I was chanting e heart sutra when I felt a blue faced buddha appear b4 me n touched me on my back.any idea wat this means?
perhaps Buddha trying to tell u
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Wat's a Kumantong? why SOA n Buddhism Wisdom bliss both have e same topic?
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I am!!!Originally posted by bohiruci:Blue face is medicine Buddha
perhaps Buddha trying to tell u
"KEEP CHANTING"
In the meantime reading up on all forms of Buddhism since Zac Brudder say KMT is part of Thai Buddhism and Eternal now say it is not. Read...read...read.
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Kumantong is not part of Buddhism, and I do not recommend it.Originally posted by life'sAb1tch:Wat's a Kumantong? why SOA n Buddhism Wisdom bliss both have e same topic? -
Technically, participants are free to post any topic of their choice in any forum they like. However, if the moderator finds the topic not suitable, the topic will be closed.Originally posted by life'sAb1tch:Wat's a Kumantong? why SOA n Buddhism Wisdom bliss both have e same topic?
Since SOA is already discussing this, and the fact that Kumantong does not really belongs to a practise of Traditional Buddhism, suggest that the Mod to close this topic. -
The fundamental of Buddhism is based on kindness/affection, compassion and equality. Kindness is to give all beings peace and happiness without conditions. Compassion is to help all beings, just oneself in unity, from sufferings. All beings are equal without discrimination.Originally posted by waliao:I am!!!
In the meantime reading up on all forms of Buddhism since Zac Brudder say KMT is part of Thai Buddhism and Eternal now say it is not. Read...read...read.
All beings should uphold, practise and cultivate the following:
Avoid all evil deeds.
Be kind to others.
Purify one's mind.
After understanding this fundamental of Buddhism i think u should noe tat KMT IS NOT part of Buddhism. -
Well,actually I opened e thread to get some opinions and views about getting one and since there are some contradicting parts,I felt it was better to get opinions from experts like yourself. You know the internet,sometimes information floating out there might not be entirely true. Have to verify with you pple first just to be sure as is it propagated as part of thai buddhism practice thus that's why i need to clarify with you guys as you guys know more than i do.Originally posted by coolbluewater:Technically, participants are free to post any topic of their choice in any forum they like. However, if the moderator finds the topic not suitable, the topic will be closed.
Since SOA is already discussing this, and the fact that Kumantong does not really belongs to a practise of Traditional Buddhism, suggest that the Mod to close this topic. -
Originally posted by neutral_onliner:
Thanx for e info
The fundamental of Buddhism is based on [b]kindness/affection, compassion and equality. Kindness is to give all beings peace and happiness without conditions. Compassion is to help all beings, just oneself in unity, from sufferings. All beings are equal without discrimination.
All beings should uphold, practise and cultivate the following:
Avoid all evil deeds.
Be kind to others.
Purify one's mind.
After understanding this fundamental of Buddhism i think u should noe tat KMT IS NOT part of Buddhism. [/b]
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Hello waliao,
Living in Singapore, I'm sure you've visited Chinese temples before. Quite a handful of temples often have Buddha/Bodhisattvas statues among their deities statues on the shrine. You may even see some of the names of Buddha/Bodhisattvas on the yellow talisman. But does it mean such practice is Buddhism?
I guess it's the same situation with the KMT in Thai Buddhism.
Buddhism is a very "generous" religion, while we accepting the existence of such spiritual entities in the various forklore traditions, it allows Buddhism to blend in to the culture quickly.
At least in the Chinese temples, we should be "happy" in one sense as Buddha/Bodhisattvas will always be regarded as one rank above the deities. My sentiments is that I guess it's the same with KMT in Thai Buddhism --- that Buddha is the highest power among all other deities and spirits that they have. At least from this, we can see that non-buddhists hold high regards to Buddha.
But perhaps the real sad thing is that, people is taking Buddha/Bodhisattvas as an icon of worship, rather seeing them as examples that we should train ourselves and attain what They had attained. I guess it's because human are weak. When we face obstacles, we always hope for some external divinity to deliver us. I'm not saying that Buddha/Bodhisattvas not compassionate enough to deliver us, but definitely, Buddhism isn't a miracle-showing religion.
Seeing obstacles as either problems or challenges depends on one's perception on the matter. And this perception will come from the understanding of Dhamma.
Some of the KMT, pendant practice in binding spirits are definitely no encourage in Buddhism. These spirits are very pitiful beings, often they can't find peace and which that's why linger. It'll be good to dedicate merits and wish them for a better rebirth. Keeping spirits with yourself, no matter what reaons, is simply due to a self-centered reason. We should in no way, enslave any other beings.
I spoke to this guy before, who practice this sort of Thai magic, he told me he has this baby spirit with him. But when the spirit reach 10 years old, he must release the spirit. I asked him how to release. He said will tie the foetus to a stone, use a spell to bind it, throwing it into the sea. Because as the baby spirits grow up, may have more demands and become uncontrollable.
Now before I get flamed for misrepresenting such spirits practice, I believe there may be some "more compassionate" methods, but however, I think as a buddhist, we should really steer clear of this.
No offence but maybe you're not cut out in doing business? Or maybe this field of business you're dealing you ain't the one that has high market demands? -
hmmm... wat if some evil men refuse to release e child spirit ,wanting to keep it to benefit himself? If KMT is not supposed to be in buddhism,than y do some self proclaimed buddhists keep them?Originally posted by yamizi:Hello waliao,
Living in Singapore, I'm sure you've visited Chinese temples before. Quite a handful of temples often have Buddha/Bodhisattvas statues among their deities statues on the shrine. You may even see some of the names of Buddha/Bodhisattvas on the yellow talisman. But does it mean such practice is Buddhism?
I guess it's the same situation with the KMT in Thai Buddhism.
Buddhism is a very "generous" religion, while we accepting the existence of such spiritual entities in the various forklore traditions, it allows Buddhism to blend in to the culture quickly.
At least in the Chinese temples, we should be "happy" in one sense as Buddha/Bodhisattvas will always be regarded as one rank above the deities. My sentiments is that I guess it's the same with KMT in Thai Buddhism --- that Buddha is the highest power among all other deities and spirits that they have. At least from this, we can see that non-buddhists hold high regards to Buddha.
But perhaps the real sad thing is that, people is taking Buddha/Bodhisattvas as an icon of worship, rather seeing them as examples that we should train ourselves and attain what They had attained. I guess it's because human are weak. When we face obstacles, we always hope for some external divinity to deliver us. I'm not saying that Buddha/Bodhisattvas not compassionate enough to deliver us, but definitely, Buddhism isn't a miracle-showing religion.
Seeing obstacles as either problems or challenges depends on one's perception on the matter. And this perception will come from the understanding of Dhamma.
Some of the KMT, pendant practice in binding spirits are definitely no encourage in Buddhism. These spirits are very pitiful beings, often they can't find peace and which that's why linger. It'll be good to dedicate merits and wish them for a better rebirth. Keeping spirits with yourself, no matter what reaons, is simply due to a self-centered reason. We should in no way, enslave any other beings.
I spoke to this guy before, who practice this sort of Thai magic, he told me he has this baby spirit with him. But when the spirit reach 10 years old, he must release the spirit. I asked him how to release. He said will tie the foetus to a stone, use a spell to bind it, throwing it into the sea. Because as the baby spirits grow up, may have more demands and become uncontrollable.
Now before I get flamed for misrepresenting such spirits practice, I believe there may be some "more compassionate" methods, but however, I think as a buddhist, we should really steer clear of this.
No offence but maybe you're not cut out in doing business? Or maybe this field of business you're dealing you ain't the one that has high market demands? -
Waliao,
Well, from what I know they have to release, if not the spirit will overcome the users. Anyway do you know what does that release mean? It means dumping them into the bottom of the sea forever. How evil can you get?! Example the spirits serve you since 2 years old, you "release" the spirit when it turns 10 (that guy told me usually they release at 10), and after helping you 8 years, they'll be binded into the bottom of the sea. I definitely don't want to do such thing.
Just like if you go to many local Chinese temples, they'll claim that they're buddhists too. And taoists as well. Many of these practitioners don't really know what Buddhism is about.
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Indeed, there have been many FAKE buddhists who go around doing more harm than good for their own selfish means which is also e case with other religions. How these black sheeps have tarnished the name of religion.... haix....Originally posted by yamizi:Waliao,
Well, from what I know they have to release, if not the spirit will overcome the users. Anyway do you know what does that release mean? It means dumping them into the bottom of the sea forever. How evil can you get?! Example the spirits serve you since 2 years old, you "release" the spirit when it turns 10 (that guy told me usually they release at 10), and after helping you 8 years, they'll be binded into the bottom of the sea. I definitely don't want to do such thing.
Just like if you go to many local Chinese temples, they'll claim that they're buddhists too. And taoists as well. Many of these practitioners don't really know what Buddhism is about.
It's about changing one's perspective, in meeting challenges, to empower ourselves rather than in hope to receive external blessings. -
Get Real is e word,my frenOriginally posted by waliao:Indeed, there have been many FAKE buddhists who go around doing more harm than good for their own selfish means which is also e case with other religions. How these black sheeps have tarnished the name of religion.... haix.... -
yamizi actually looks good on message boards.
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please comment on e subject matter n aviod deviating from e topic.Thank u.Originally posted by Cenarious:yamizi actually looks good on message boards.