Should i get a Kumanthong?
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Conclusion of this thread :
1) Do not get KumanTong. E good pple here advise against it.
2) Kumantong is not part of Thai Buddhism. ( info from e good pple of this forum.)
3) I have no life to read thru all this n come up with an analysis.
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I saw a policeman even worse than a moderator .Relax pal , its alrite to deviateOriginally posted by dadaism:please comment on e subject matter n aviod deviating from e topic.Thank u.
we are open-door policy not closed-door policy
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Well, that's other people's choices. We can make choices too, by not becoming one of them.Originally posted by waliao:Indeed, there have been many FAKE buddhists who go around doing more harm than good for their own selfish means which is also e case with other religions. How these black sheeps have tarnished the name of religion.... haix....
Do consider your business situation now. Sometimes it isn't really bad to fail in something, cos it may lead you to be successful in another.
Just keep your options open. -
Have been going around the major temples in Singapore to pray recently. Situation slighly better now but still not out of the red yet.Originally posted by yamizi:Well, that's other people's choices. We can make choices too, by not becoming one of them.
Do consider your business situation now. Sometimes it isn't really bad to fail in something, cos it may lead you to be successful in another.
Just keep your options open. -
So this is about buddhism also?
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Hi waliao,Originally posted by waliao:Have been going around the major temples in Singapore to pray recently. Situation slighly better now but still not out of the red yet.
Buddhists do not worship the Buddha. We consider Him as our teacher and we thus respect Him as such. Buddhists bowing to a statue of the Buddha is simply our way of showing respect. This is akin to saluting a country's flag, or standing up while a national anthem is being played.
The Buddha has said that the best way to respect him is to practice his Teachings. So why not learn dharma and apply the wisdom of dharma in ur daily life.
When Buddha teached Karma he wanted us to understand tat nobody but we ourselves is in control of our fate -
No not exactlyOriginally posted by White_Wolf_Thunder:So this is about buddhism also? -
Conclusion in accordance to the question.Originally posted by White_Wolf_Thunder:So this is about buddhism also?
1) Waliao wanna get a Kunmantong to help in his business n he is buddhist so wanna see if it is allowed in e culture.
2) Alot of input from everywhere, conclusion : confusing as some say it is, others say: N0!!!
3) Waliao move on ... most prob cos dun wanna take e risk n anger e gods.
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Enlighten me please.Originally posted by neutral_onliner:No not exactly 
Not exactly mean this is part of Buddhism. -
Field report 2Originally posted by White_Wolf_Thunder:Enlighten me please.
Not exactly mean this is part of Buddhism.
1) KMT is actually a child spirit of sorts and according to the thread in SOA is part of Thai Buddhism. At least that's what Zacken Sifu mentioned in the back of the thread about KMT.
2) Thus alittle contradiction in views here. Nothing much else. -
I read from some replies stated Kunmantong is child spirit made by thai monks.Originally posted by dadaism:Conclusion in accordance to the question.
1) Waliao wanna get a Kunmantong to help in his business n he is buddhist so wanna see if it is allowed in e culture.
2) Alot of input from everywhere, conclusion : confusing as some say it is, others say: N0!!!
3) Waliao move on ... most prob cos dun wanna take e risk n anger e gods.
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Yes some say it is part of thai buddhism, some say it is not.
Another buddhist forum SOA cited in one of the reply seem to be propagating it as part of thai buddhism.
Confusing indeed.
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NoOriginally posted by White_Wolf_Thunder:Enlighten me please.
Not exactly mean this is part of Buddhism.
U can read books on Buddhism to get a better understanding of wat buddhism is all abt.
In the mean time u can oso read here...
Uniqueness of buddhism
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You been very kind in providing me with answers.Originally posted by dadaism:Field report 2
1) KMT is actually a child spirit of sorts and according to the thread in SOA is part of Thai Buddhism. At least that's what Zacken Sifu mentioned in the back of the thread about KMT.
2) Thus alittle contradiction in views here. Nothing much else.
Yes i read about that it is child spirit, part of thai buddhism in earlier replies.
I wish to go SOA have a look.
Zacken sifu which you speak of a Buddhist? -
I do understand what is buddhism.Originally posted by neutral_onliner:No
U can read books on Buddhism to get a better understanding of wat buddhism is all abt.
In the mean time u can oso read here...
Uniqueness of buddhism
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=185088
Just i am confused by all these or should i say i am shocked.
That is such wonderful read, great info. Thanks.
I like Thubten chodron teachings, she is very good and interesting to me. Warm and jovial personality, very charismatic with good sense of humour when i first saw her at her talk.
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There are four types of Buddhism exist in our society today, we should recognize them as they are and think carefully as to which way is most beneficial to us, and the one we will ultimately followOriginally posted by White_Wolf_Thunder:I do understand what is buddhism.
Just i am confused by all these or should i say i am shocked.
That is such wonderful read, great info. Thanks.
I like Thubten chodron teachings, she is very good and interesting to me. Warm and jovial personality, very charismatic with good sense of humour when i first saw her at her talk.
pls read http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=201901 -
The link is not working.Originally posted by neutral_onliner:There are four types of Buddhism exist in our society today, we should recognize them as they are and think carefully as to which way is most beneficial to us, and the one we will ultimately follow
pls read http://www.sgforums.com/?action=post&forum_id=1728 -
hi... all ppl in this forum...
1st of all.. im sorry.. again.. becos of SOA.... this buddhism forum is being stired again....
erm... i guess over the yrs i hv being in this sgforums... i hv more or less offend alot ppl especially my so call competitors in my fengshui service trade...
i read thru the threads..i wonder did the mods of this forum or any wise soul realise something...
many times my nick and my forum names was being mentioned...
is those answer seekers really seeking for some answer or r they trying to stir something?
over the yrs nan chuan fo jiao n ta cheng fo jiao hv a lot of differences...
n it hv still being kept control...becos no matter which branch of buddhist u call urself...u still practise compassionate love...
i can forsee from this thread.. if it being carried on...i couldnt imagine wat the consequences can led too...
my dear mods in this forum.. please think deeper...should u still keep this thread on going or shall it put a stop...
i dun wish because of my personal grudges with ppl i hv offended to stir up any trouble..
i did said in my forum. kmt is belong to buddhism.. but only in thai nan chuan fo jiao...
and 1 more thing i will like to clarify... i never said b4 SOA is a buddhist forum.. u might like to check from my main forum page...is a forum to discuss xuan xue..
well...im not good at words...
but i do hope wise souls around understand wat im trying to say...
and also to the person behind all this...
" zhuo ren du liang da yi dian!..you ben shi de hua.. ni chong zhe wo lai!
bu yao jie dao sha ren, i know you hv done the same thing to many ppl.. dun use the same trick on me... i hv know you for years!
please do fine 1day... i will merry meet you!" -
Something e matter here? i seem to sense a sudden shift in e mood. We all engaging in a good mannered discussion than suddenly storm clouds pass by. -
Hi Sorry for intruding.. I'm wondering.. Which part of Buddhism did you get to see that Kumanthongs are Spirits?
And which part did you get to learn that Kumanthongs harboured anger?? Are you referring to Spirits?? Like Jin??
Omg!! Kumanthongs are not spirits.. Why did pple just choose to believe what others stated in Just webby?? Webby are also written by Humans right?? Buddhism is here to teach us to be good and follow be Kind.. But i believe not about reading blindly.. There are changes everyday.. Alot of Buddhas and Deities also not included in Buddha History.. Where do they come from? And when?? Nobody really knows.. From where can we know? From others knowledge?? I hoped that everyone will look at this with an open mind..
Always believe in what we can see.. Not just by what written by Humans.. I believe not ALL BUDDHIST follow the precepts.. If so..
May i ask the moderators here.. How many are you staying COndos?? How many are having credit cards??
House and luxury are not welcome in Buddhism and Dharma.. Why?? Cos house is just a shelter.. Food is to keep us going.. Then how many of you actually follow??
Fo zai xing zhong you..
May i know, if anyone seen how a master really invite Kumanthongs in to statues?? Or is human just believing in DRAMAS only?? Keke no need to be so strain about such matters..
My Kumanthongs have been with me for many years already.. They have been listening to Buddha scriptures with me everyday.. If they were ghost.. They will be long gone... I guess LOGIC or COMMON SENSE is needed here.. -
you won't be shocked or confused if you really do understand what is buddhism. will others stir waves in your clear apprenhension? to be flowing into confusion & not being influenced into confusion and stay focus are two different abilities. (if you really claimed you understood buddhism).Originally posted by White_Wolf_Thunder:I do understand what is buddhism.
Just i am confused by all these or should i say i am shocked.
That is such wonderful read, great info. Thanks.
I like Thubten chodron teachings, she is very good and interesting to me. Warm and jovial personality, very charismatic with good sense of humour when i first saw her at her talk.
oh yes thubten chodron's dharma retreat was excellent. it was beneficial. perhaps you could try to recall her teachings and practice from her guidance. -
Hey everyone,
Seems like the thread i started have caused some unhappiness in the forums.
To set things straight once and for all, I did really had the intention of getting a Kumantong for my business purpose and was just looking around for opinions as my knowledge is limited and thus need some advice. Although I come from a Traditional Buddhist family, I was not a staunch buddhist untill recent years so pardon my lack of knowledge. I read up a thread in SOA regarding the matter and wanted to check and be sure just in case. Thus I started a thread in Buddhism : Wisdom Bliss to get more opinions, that's all. I would like to thank all the helpful forumites here for their help and the advice that was dished out. I would also like to thank SOA and Zacken and apologise if it cause him any displeasure in any way as they were very sincere in helping me with my enquiries too. I posted in both threads to clarify the matter only.Nothing else and some of the topics in SOA do seem familar to those in Wisdom Bliss,so pardon my mistake if i mistook SOA for a buddhist forum. I also wanna apologise to anyone affected if it has caused any unhappiness and misunderstanding amoung any forumites as my main intention was to get opinion of the matter,nothing more.I hope this thread carries on in a mood of discussion and sharing and be free of distorted meanings and agendas, as it was not meant to be so in the first place. Just forgive this fool who means no harm. -
My understanding of Buddhism is simple not as complicated as here.Originally posted by paperflower:you won't be shocked or confused if you really do understand what is buddhism. will others stir waves in your clear apprenhension? to be flowing into confusion & not being influenced into confusion and stay focus are two different abilities. (if you really claimed you understood buddhism).
oh yes thubten chodron's dharma retreat was excellent. it was beneficial. perhaps you could try to recall her teachings and practice from her guidance.
I understand Buddhism from what i see in my own views. We are all unique in our own way just like uniqueness of Buddhism.
I do not see myself as a true buddhist but i wish to know more.
Confusion are part of human weakness.
I admit i am not strong because i am only human, there is only so much i can do.
I do remember Thubten chodron's teaching in my heart.
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we have alot of learners here together including me.Originally posted by White_Wolf_Thunder:My understanding of Buddhism is simple not as complicated as here.
I understand Buddhism from what i see in my own views. We are all unique in our own way just like uniqueness of Buddhism.
I do not see myself as a true buddhist but i wish to know more.
Confusion are part of human weakness.
I admit i am not strong because i am only human, there is only so much i can do.
I do remember Thubten chodron's teaching in my heart.
Thank you.
i am still not up to scratch of being a true "good" buddhist though wholeheartedly i have a direction towards it.
it's an affinity as valuable as gems that redeems us from poverty in ignorance.
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See what i mean.Originally posted by dadaism: Something e matter here? i seem to sense a sudden shift in e mood. We all engaging in a good mannered discussion than suddenly storm clouds pass by.
Impression these people creating.
A jar of muddy water.
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You are kind.Originally posted by paperflower:we have alot of learners here together including me.
i am still not up to scratch of being a true "good" buddhist though wholeheartedly i have a direction towards it.
it's an affinity as valuable as gems that redeems us from poverty in ignorance.
may you have a safe and smooth journey.
You are compassionate.
You are wise.
Ignorance are those who are persistent in mundane affairs.
Thank you.