If compassion means knowing that we are all the same,
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going through death and all that and wanting to help others, wouldn't Buddha be without compassion because he is different from us as he has trancended all these sufferings?
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Buddha have the other qualitities as well - The Brahma Vihara -Originally posted by Cenarious:going through death and all that and wanting to help others, wouldn't Buddha be without compassion because he is different from us as he has trancended all these sufferings?
1. Metta - Loving Kindness
2. Karuna - Compassion
3. Muditta - Sympatetic Joy
4. Uppekka - Equamity
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That's not answering the question and by the way what's the diff between loving kindness and compassion?Originally posted by LinYu:Buddha have the other qualitities as well - The Brahma Vihara -
1. Metta - Loving Kindness
2. Karuna - Compassion
3. Muditta - Sympathic Joy
4. Uppekka - Equamity -
loving kindness is the "love" qualityOriginally posted by Cenarious:That's not answering the question and by the way what's the diff between loving kindness and compassion?
compassion is to feel for others when they are in "pain"
joy is to feel for others when they are happy
equaminty - is not affected by the above feel. -
When enlightened, he do not see himself as a 'self' separated from the rest of humanity. He knows they are suffering, because he used to suffer as well, and therefore could understand how they feel and feel compassionate.Originally posted by Cenarious:going through death and all that and wanting to help others, wouldn't Buddha be without compassion because he is different from us as he has trancended all these sufferings? -
if he is not separated from other people then if other people suffer then he also will as well?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:When enlightened, he do not see himself as a 'self' separated from the rest of humanity. He knows they are suffering, because he used to suffer as well, and therefore could understand how they feel and feel compassionate. -
No, he is enlightened, and sees that all sentient being's suffering is Empty, but it is us who doesn't see that. From the enlightened perspective, all sentient beings are not different from Buddha, they are all Buddhas by nature. Remember LZLS says "Buddha Nature is the most Ping2 Deng3" - most equal. But because sentient beings are ignorant of their Buddha Nature, they suffer.Originally posted by Cenarious:if he is not separated from other people then if other people suffer then he also will as well? -
so it is just a matter of viewpoints? and viewpoints are not connected?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:No, he is enlightened, and sees that all sentient being's suffering is Empty, but it is us who doesn't see that. From the enlightened perspective, all sentient beings are not different from Buddha, they are all Buddhas by nature. Remember LZLS says "Buddha Nature is the most Ping2 Deng3" - most equal. But because sentient beings are ignorant of their Buddha Nature, they suffer. -
I say "viewpoint" but must be clear what it means. Buddha's viewpoint is not the same as sentient being's kind of viewpoint. Sentient being's viewpoint lies under the catergory of "mental perceptions", and because of that there is always a "me", "you", "mine", etc. Buddha's "viewpoint" is what some people call Pure Vision - seeing all as Buddha Nature, manifestations of Buddha Nature. When we attain this kind of Pure Vision, the world we live in is not different from Pure Land.Originally posted by Cenarious:so it is just a matter of viewpoints? and viewpoints are not connected?
Rather, Buddha's viewpoint IS REALITY. First of all when enlightened, it is not someone who awakens or attains another viewpoint. It is simply realising that "Scott" or "Joe" are just dream characters. The dream character Scott or Joe didn't wake up. Therefore there is no such thing as "Scott becomes an enlightened person" or "Joe becomes an enlightened person". Buddha Nature is already awakened, the true nature of who we are is already awake, Buddha Nature is never asleep, only illusions fooling illusions.
Is reality connected to dream character?
Well reality is reality, the dream character Scott and Joe is also empty. The ground reality applies for all beings, there is no such thing as "my version of reality" or "your version of reality", when you wake up. The reality of Buddha applies to sentient beings too, and we are in reality not separate. So seeing that we are not separate, the Buddha feels compassionate for all of us and wants to wake us up, to realise that what we think we know, and all the sufferings, is in fact fictitious. -
WowOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:I say "viewpoint" but must be clear what it means. Buddha's viewpoint is not the same as sentient being's kind of viewpoint. Sentient being's viewpoint lies under the catergory of "mental perceptions", and because of that there is always a "me", "you", "mine", etc. Buddha's "viewpoint" is what some people call Pure Vision - seeing all as Buddha Nature, manifestations of Buddha Nature. When we attain this kind of Pure Vision, the world we live in is not different from Pure Land.
Rather, Buddha's viewpoint IS REALITY. First of all when enlightened, it is not someone who awakens or attains another viewpoint. It is simply realising that "Scott" or "Joe" are just dream characters. The dream character Scott or Joe didn't wake up. Therefore there is no such thing as "Scott becomes an enlightened person" or "Joe becomes an enlightened person". Buddha Nature is already awakened, the true nature of who we are is already awake, Buddha Nature is never asleep, only illusions fooling illusions.
Is reality connected to dream character?
Well reality is reality, the dream character Scott and Joe is also empty. The ground reality applies for all beings, there is no such thing as "my version of reality" or "your version of reality", when you wake up. The reality of Buddha applies to sentient beings too, and we are in reality not separate. So seeing that we are not separate, the Buddha feels compassionate for all of us and wants to wake us up, to realise that what we think we know, and all the sufferings, is in fact fictitious.
You are writing better and better. -
Becos he is awakeningOriginally posted by longchen:Wow You are writing better and better.
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No la not yet.Originally posted by neutral_onliner:Becos he is awakening
But I suppose when "i" do, it is not "i" who wakes up because "i" is just a dream character