GOD IS SELFISH & ARROGANT.........
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Why we need to pray for god everyday ? just because we need to go to heaven ? and bless our life....
God is really a jerk and pride......if god does exist....we do not need to pray it at all....
The Religious claim :
God knows everything ..............God hears everything
since God knows everything...why u need to go to temple or church to promote yourself to him? some says just to close to Gods. oh...yes......He ask his children to pray for him just to make sure he will gain as a celebrity
if one human is going to be in heaven or hell....God will knows by judging your daily routine life such as .....how you think and what you do everyday.....
it is not by how many times you pray for him.
one rule of thumbs that many people believe.......whoever find God that person have problems...... -
wrong forum!
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eh. f*ck you, you low-life git! get a life!Originally posted by Signature_One:Why we need to pray for god everyday ? just because we need to go to heaven ? and bless our life....
God is really a jerk and pride......if god does exist....we do not need to pray it at all....
The Religious claim :
God knows everything ..............God hears everything
since God knows everything...why u need to go to temple or church to promote yourself to him? some says just to close to Gods. oh...yes......He ask his children to pray for him just to make sure he will gain as a celebrity
if one human is going to be in heaven or hell....God will knows by judging your daily routine life such as .....how you think and what you do everyday.....
it is not by how many times you pray for him.
one rule of thumbs that many people believe.......whoever find God that person have problems...... -
Precisely, that is why Buddha said...Originally posted by Signature_One:Why we need to pray for god everyday ? just because we need to go to heaven ? and bless our life....
God is really a jerk and pride......if god does exist....we do not need to pray it at all....
The Religious claim :
God knows everything ..............God hears everything
since God knows everything...why u need to go to temple or church to promote yourself to him? some says just to close to Gods. oh...yes......He ask his children to pray for him just to make sure he will gain as a celebrity
if one human is going to be in heaven or hell....God will knows by judging your daily routine life such as .....how you think and what you do everyday.....
it is not by how many times you pray for him.
one rule of thumbs that many people believe.......whoever find God that person have problems......
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Why does he order such misfortune
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Why prevail deceit, lies and ignorance
And he such inequity and injustice create?
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Then an evil master is he, (O Aritta)
Knowing what's right did let wrong prevail!
I believe Neutral_Onliner will reply you with greater details..
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erm... no personal insults plsOriginally posted by trendz:eh. f*ck you, you low-life git! get a life! -
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AEN, no matter how much we do not agree with GOD, we ought to be mindful that there are forumners from other faiths reading this topic. It's also politically sensitive as you woudn't know who else is reading this.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Precisely, that is why Buddha said...
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Why does he order such misfortune
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Why prevail deceit, lies and ignorance
And he such inequity and injustice create?
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Then an evil master is he, (O Aritta)
Knowing what's right did let wrong prevail!
I believe Neutral_Onliner will reply you with greater details..
If you want to do an analysis between faith, suggest that you do it objectively. -
It is OK, as long as we do not name any particular religion.Originally posted by path_seeker:AEN, no matter how much we do not agree with GOD, we ought to be mindful that there are forumners from other faiths reading this topic. It's also politically sensitive as you woudn't know who else is reading this.
If you want to do an analysis between faith, suggest that you do it objectively.
We can state our Buddhist stance on God, other ppl from other religions may not agree, it's ok. We just need to be careful not to name any of those religions. -
running away from the issue doesn't mean a thing.Originally posted by path_seeker:AEN, no matter how much we do not agree with GOD, we ought to be mindful that there are forumners from other faiths reading this topic. It's also politically sensitive as you woudn't know who else is reading this.
If you want to do an analysis between faith, suggest that you do it objectively. -
Like a lot of god-related topics or what-Buddhism-is-not topics nowadays....
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God does exist. Period.
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Yes, everyone is entitled to their views. I hope this tread shouldnt lead to some kind of whether God exists or not argument, but rather, what is the alternative path (which is Buddhism).Originally posted by Gwangetto:God does exist. Period.
But if you believe in God, in Buddhism views it is also good in some ways. A true Christian is one who submits his life to God, not as in he doesn't do anything, but whatever it is, it is God's will. My dharma teacher who is an ex-Christian herself used to tell me, Christians also have its good points, for example when a baby is born, if he is deformed or etc, he will continue to shower the child with love and care, instead of cruelly aborting that child. This is because he submits to God, whatever God gives him, it is the best for him. They may also see it as a 'test of God'. This is what I call the true 'relationship with God', which is what Christianity is about. Or Islam, which calls itself 'Submission (to God)'.
However, this is not the path of Buddhism, so do tolerate what is being said here, and I do hope people do not go overboard at attacking other people's religion. -
I hope you don't see my comment as running away from the issue, but rather, how could we handle interface issues maturely. Don't forget we are now living in a multi racial society, hence everyone is entitled to their believe and faith. It's important that we respect that ground rule and do this sort of discussion responsibly.Originally posted by Ito_^:running away from the issue doesn't mean a thing. -
yes. we should be responsible with what we say about other's religion.Originally posted by path_seeker:I hope you don't see my comment as running away from the issue, but rather, how could we handle interface issues maturely. Don't forget we are now living in a multi racial society, hence everyone is entitled to their believe and faith. It's important that we respect that ground rule and do this sort of discussion responsibly.
but don't you think that discussing or debating about different faiths would never have an ending? this can go on and on... for eternity.
so, i'd rather not talk about it until i know the person really wel. -
Wow. I used to think Buddha was a teacher. Now I think he is as ignorant as many men for saying such things. Afterall, what did he know?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Precisely, that is why Buddha said...
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Why does he order such misfortune
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Why prevail deceit, lies and ignorance
And he such inequity and injustice create?
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Then an evil master is he, (O Aritta)
Knowing what's right did let wrong prevail!
I believe Neutral_Onliner will reply you with greater details.. -
Wow. I used to think Buddha was a teacher. Now I think he is as ignorant as many men for saying such things. Afterall, what did he know? Maybe he is not enlightened yet when he said this. This is a very emotional and predictable human response.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Precisely, that is why Buddha said...
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Why does he order such misfortune
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Why prevail deceit, lies and ignorance
And he such inequity and injustice create?
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Then an evil master is he, (O Aritta)
Knowing what's right did let wrong prevail!
I believe Neutral_Onliner will reply you with greater details.. -
That's precisely my point. We don't know who the readers are, and openly criticising other faith is potentially damaging. I agree with you that discussing or debating about different faiths will be never ending, because it's not something that we could put a straight right or wrong.Originally posted by Gwangetto:yes. we should be responsible with what we say about other's religion.
but don't you think that discussing or debating about different faiths would never have an ending? this can go on and on... for eternity.
so, i'd rather not talk about it until i know the person really wel.
In our unique culture, what's accepted by you may not be acceptable to others, but we all can, and should accomodate each other's difference in belief. -
i agree with path_seeker, this topic is too senstive. i'm a guo lai ren.
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Praying to GOd to please him is an old energy past concept. We live in modern times and this concept is no longer applicable. Perhaps you should start finding out who exactly God is. Did you know that everybody is a peice of God?Originally posted by Signature_One:Why we need to pray for god everyday ? just because we need to go to heaven ? and bless our life....
God is really a jerk and pride......if god does exist....we do not need to pray it at all....
The Religious claim :
God knows everything ..............God hears everything
since God knows everything...why u need to go to temple or church to promote yourself to him? some says just to close to Gods. oh...yes......He ask his children to pray for him just to make sure he will gain as a celebrity
if one human is going to be in heaven or hell....God will knows by judging your daily routine life such as .....how you think and what you do everyday.....
it is not by how many times you pray for him.
one rule of thumbs that many people believe.......whoever find God that person have problems......
ANd since you are a peice of God, yes, YOU know everything. -
i recieve this unknown email. i find no point to reply back though.
Hello
I am a Muslim and I want to talk about Buddhisim vs. Islam. I found
your address from a Buddhist Group, Site.
Dear computer user Buddhists!!!!
You use computers programs and networks built by programmers or System
Admisintrators. But do never forget these important points;
This Universe is a dazzling (marvelous) computer. It has a Great
Programmer who has created all things and the earth in the Universe and for the earth He has built the sun as a " power source' and the moon as a " system clock ".
This power source has never been shutdown, and this system clock has
never been corrupted. Therefore this demonstrates the Science and the Art of
the Programmer.
This One is also so exalted programmer who has written a life program
for our earth and it has been running for more than 100 thousands of years
without any " error " and " crash ". If you want to realize how a Great
Programmer He is first look at yourself. He located your all data in a
tinny cell that cannot be seen by your nude eye, and He is executing the
program in it.
Since DNA is a program obviously, and no program cannot be written out
of a programmer, the computer programs that you use are product of skills,
but if they are compared with with the Glorious one's (Universe
Program),yours like a mirror reflection.
Moreover as He makes your cells talk and communate with eachother on
trillions protocols in the network, He has given you all your needs so
He makes you talk with other people, makes you smile and listen.
He has prepared light and voice in order that you can be aware of
everthing around your environment. You can be aware of them, but you cannot add any new device without His Permission. Therefore there is a so great One, Network Expert who knows your all needs , and gives the hard wares that you need. What you can do as a network administrator, is very tinny and if it is compared with the Science of the Network Administrator of the Universe.
Yet it is a great favour for you. He has created natural beauties, greeen
plants colorfull flowers, delicious fruits (and all kinds of food) for your
amusing. Moreover He has endowed extra senses that have not been used
in your computer systems yet. Tasting, touching and smelling. In the gren
leaves, there are perhaps quadrillion x quadrillions of micro chemical
factory that decompose lifegiving oxygen from karbondioxside (and
monoxide).
He has created you from a cell (two halphoid cells), shaped your body
giving you balance etc. that has not been reached by the robot technology yet.
This One is the owner and absolute King of the whole Universe from the
earth to the heavens, from the atoms to the stars, from the begining to the
end..... -
cont....
Since It is invalid to have a Buddha statue pic in your computer by
i think Buddha is a NEITHER-this-NOR-that Noble person.
saying "
I do not obey any programmer, but I only thurst in this Buddha Pic" .
It is then completely invalid to say " I do not obey the Master, Programmer
of the Universe, I only obey Buddha Statues and Buddhisim words.
Moreover is it Possible for the Programmer , to write such a beautiful
program, and not to show us " about " to introduce Himself? Therefore
see and learn all " about " created by this Programmer who is the Great
Network Administrator of this Universe and try to earn the full version (life
in the Paradise and Love of that Programmer,The Creator)
The Creation of the Lord is an Open Truth.
However according to Buddhisim many questions regarding the universe,
existence, and life cannot be replied.
Since it has no longer enough for any explanation of that power to
consider only the existance of the universe, as Buddhism did not even mention
ages ago (and as popularizers of Buddha continue to do today). Each of the
steps and structures that Buddhists have said (for the universe and the life)
were so simple actually involves staggeringly complicated biochemical
processes (of the living beings) that can not be papered over with rhetoric. "
Regarding Buddisim. I never wanted to insult to your religion. I see
that you Buddists have Buddha Statues to pray or etc. They believe his
concept and way (even though worshiping of the Buddha really means paying
homage, veneration and devotion to him and what he represents, and not to the stone or metal figure).
But I see the universe by examining. Our earth can never be compared
with any Buddha statue (on account of size, volume). Our earth is very small
if it is compared with the Sun. The immense Sun is very tiny when it is
compared with our Galaxy. Our Galaxy is very small (like a dust), if it
is compared with giant galaxy systems.
The Universe is so immense whose size cannot be imaged. In it there are
Supernovaes, Novaes, Quasars, Nebulas, Red Giants, etc.So budda
statues, buddhisim is NOTHING if it is compared with beings in the universe
(Black Holes, Super Novaes, Stars, giant Galaxies etc.)
According to Muslim faith we believe in the existence of the One,
Unique, Incomparable, Merciful God (Allah) – the Sole Creator. He creates and
sustains all things in the Universe. We meet with a tremendous balance,
when we examine the universe. Such as galaxies, black holes and super novas. He administrates the cells in the micro cosmos, or galaxies, solar
systems, cosmic rays in macro cosmos (the stars the earth and the living
beings).
He is our Cosmic Designer (The Creator of the Universe) and He capable
of creating the dazzling array of living things, Universe is great beyond
all imagining. He is Higher than all things. As it is stressed in the
Qur'an (Muslim Holly Book Sent By Allah to Prophet Muhammed (SAS) : HE IS THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE AND THE EARTH
You believe in the existance of the Paradise (after death). But one
cannot be in the Paradise,unless that one yields to our Cosmic Designer.
According to Islam there is no re-born. People are sent to the World at once. And they are givien enough time to choose the true path. After they die, they
are re-created and Judged. (On the Day of Judgement).
According to your belief. You say " we will be in the Paradise
according to our deeds, but Buddhisim says there is no Creator ". Then who can send you to the Paradise? Who will judge you? Who will decide whether your dees are good or bad? To do this an Intelligent Activity is needed.
Regarding our computers. Virus programs are programmed by intelligent
agents, programmers. They can decide if the file is good or bad
(harmfull or not).
This cannot be out of natural, randomly, because our computers need
programmers to be able to select whether the file is harmfull or
beneficent.
Since an Intelligent Activity is needed for the computers to sellect
good or bad files, there must be an intelligent activity to judge people after
death. He is Our Programmer, the Creator.
Friend, pls don't be cheated! All beautiful things that you see in this
worldlifeprogram are only'limited trial " versions. As you see you can never save your wealthy and joyfull times. Then know the One who has witten this Universe Program.
Beware! All things that you are doing are saved as log files without
being removed and skipped. These log files will be opened and checked by the
System Admin, the Most High.
In Addition, as according to Buddhisim there is no faith in God and
worshiping (wanting help) to the Lord is regarded as dangerous. The
main teaching is " You must only trust in yourself " Buddhist Monks (Lamas)
teach so.
But this is completely incorrect and dangerous and it accomplishes
nothing.
So to any monk (Buddhist teacher) we Muslims can say:
My Lord, Allah causes the sun to rise from the East and causes it to
come from the West!
(As a challenge to the monk) Now cause the sun to rise from the West.
If you really trust in yourself you succeed in this!
Moreover being in good thing for Buddhists accomplihes nothing. Because
unless one yields to the Creator of the Universe, God, that one is
already in the worst thing.
In Islam the Creator, already orders to do good thing.
(from pov of One vehicle)
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My view is that the email was written by someone who have absolutely no clue of what he's writing, as if he knew it all about Buddhist, but seems like it's not a discussion which was in his email, rather a one way criticising of Buddhism.Originally posted by sinweiy:cont....
i think Buddha is a NEITHER-this-NOR-that Noble person.
(from pov of One vehicle)
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Anyway, agree that there's no point emailing back, because that will only turn a "discussion" into an argument. The email is a good exhibit of the writer's level of maturity. -
It need not be emotional, it is your assumption. And simple logic may not necessarily be invalid. It could very well be a valid argument. Nevertheless, I hope this topic isn't going too much on this direction. I am considering to close this topic because the topic name may be too provocative. Perhaps Neutral Onliner should refer us to another topic where we can continue the discussion in a more peaceful and non provocative manner.Originally posted by SocialOutcast:Wow. I used to think Buddha was a teacher. Now I think he is as ignorant as many men for saying such things. Afterall, what did he know? Maybe he is not enlightened yet when he said this. This is a very emotional and predictable human response. -
Typical monotheistic religion people trying to promote their own religion but doesnt understand a thing about Buddhism. Well no need to be too surprised because this is quite common.. just ignore them.Originally posted by sinweiy:cont....
i think Buddha is a NEITHER-this-NOR-that Noble person.
(from pov of One vehicle)
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
i second to close topic.
I am considering to close this topic because the topic name may be too provocative.
no offense to God-believers.
peace.
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