The story here didnt really clearly what is in the Platform Sutra
Shen Shiau Zen Master who is the Chief Disciple of the Fifth Patriach in terms of wisdom and practice was hesistant in producing gatha when the Fifth Patriach
Hong Ren have issued .Shen Shiau knows that he would like to answer
Hong Ren by showing the level of wisdom he have .But in a way , he fall into the 2nd thought of showing his level of wisdom (which is part of ego in the culmination )
This gatha produced by shen shiau is known as the Gradual School of Zen which everyone will still have to emulate upon
The Sudden School of Zen expounded in Hui Neng No Bodhi tree and Non-existence Mirror
looks deep into the reality of the Tathagathagarbha
Chan is a very deep level of wisdom ,those who have the worldly knowledge may not be able to understand the "suchness" of the Buddha's teachings
The issue about sudden and gradual Chan have always been a topics of interest among Chan Buddhism
what Hui Neng reacted is based on the "realisation
Where Satori or jiriki are part of the learning process in our persuit of happiness ,away from samsaric entanglement
