Should vegetarian eat mock meat ?
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u think they should ?
Wad abt cheese or eggs ?
cos my mum says vegetarian should forget abt the desire of eating meat .
Some ppl became vegetarian but cannot forget the taste of the meat and therefore turn to mock meat .
this is bad . We should totally forsake the desire for meat if we were to became vegetarian .
I dun have this problem although I am a vegetarian now ....
anyway mock meat may not be beneficial to health , a lot of artificial flavouring used ...... -
Both cheese and egg i feel should not be vegetarian food cuz they come out from animal also, therefore, all those vegetarian all fake 1...Originally posted by Taiwanpolitics:u think they should ?
Wad abt cheese , eggs ? -
I dont like to eat only rice and flour.
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I knoe some vegetarian do not eat eggs and milk .
And i dun da bao from outside vegetarian outlet , very oily and unhealthy .
Honestly speaking , I never eat mock meat be4 ....... -
Mock meat is technically not a problem for vegetarians. But then it is totally pointless bcos from my experience mock meat is usually not nice to eat, genuine vegetarian food are better. And more nutritious. And another thing is mock meat is unhealthy.. I cant remember what they put inside, but a vegetarian friend of mine told me that mock meat is unhealthy and if you eat a lot of mock meat and you are a vegetarian, you will even become more unhealthy than a non-vegetarian who doesn't eat mock meat.
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Yes alot of vegetarian food out there is very oily and unhealthy, if you are a vegetarian you should avoid them as far as possible. Or eat only occasionally.Originally posted by Taiwanpolitics:I knoe some vegetarian do not eat eggs and milk .
And i dun da bao from outside vegetarian outlet , very oily and unhealthy .
Honestly speaking , I never eat mock meat be4 ....... -
For Buddhists, milk is ok, but egg is usually not eaten by Mahayana vegetarian Buddhists.Originally posted by Taiwanpolitics:I knoe some vegetarian do not eat eggs and milk .
And i dun da bao from outside vegetarian outlet , very oily and unhealthy .
Honestly speaking , I never eat mock meat be4 ....... -
if look at the bright side...it could also act as a form of transition for some ppl.
vegetarian is for growing our compassion...if u think abt it, at least they did not kill any animal ...and that's the priority goodness, healthy or not is secondary.
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agreed !!!
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Not written on the buddhism aspect but mock meat is unhealthy because it is made from gluten.
"Gluten is an amorphous ergastic protein found combined with starch in the endosperm of some cereals, notably wheat, rye, and barley. It constitutes about 80% of the proteins contained in wheat, and is composed of the proteins gliadin and glutenin. "
"Gluten can be extracted from the flour of wheat and other grains by washing out the starch. To do this, a simple dough of flour and water is rinsed with plain water and kneaded until the rinsing water remains clear and free from starch and bran. For chemical, non-food purposes, a saline solution provides better results. The remaining lump of gluten should have a stringy, sticky texture reminiscent of chewing gum."
"Cooked gluten becomes firm to the bite and soaks up a certain amount of the surrounding broth and its taste. It is therefore commonly used in vegetarian cuisine, notably Buddhist cuisine and vegan cuisine, where one variety is called seitan. Some consider it a convincing imitation meat (particularly duck) when the broth is flavored accordingly.
In the process of baking with yeast, gluten is responsible for keeping the fermentation gases in the dough, allowing it to rise. After baking, the coagulated gluten ensures that the final product keeps its shape (although starch is also essential for structural integrity). Recently, gluten has also been implicated as being at least partially responsible for bread staling."
Btw, some people are allergic to gluten. Anyway gluten is not easily diegestable and puts alot of stress on your digestive system.
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depends i guess, if its eaten for variety and aste its fine, if its used as a psuedo meat then its counter-productive inthe religious sense
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sigh...maybe it's the "excuse/revenge " of the meat eating(or desire/mara) on preventing ppl from taking up vegetarian. yin guo again.....cause and effect...vegetarian ppl used to say the meat eater...now the meat eater say back the vegetarian.
ps: actually the most "healthy food" is when u eat that time, your mind is free from attachment, dualism and wandering thoughts.... period!
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mock meat does not taste like meat. Its just sweet flour.
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Actually mock meat is a relatively good way to get people off meat. No doubt it tastes remotely like the original thing, but it's up to the creativity of the chef who will make magic out of the flour.Originally posted by shade343:mock meat does not taste like meat. Its just sweet flour. -
Originally posted by sinweiy:
that's to say..to a true non-dualistic bodhisattva, non-healthy also can become healthy, when the mind is pure.
ps: actually the most "healthy food" is when u eat that time, your mind is free from attachment, dualism and wandering thoughts.... period!
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recently heard, in taiwan, some wicked seller use real beef meat to cheat people to think it's mock meat.
so need to be careful.
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i feel mock meat is not true vegetarian. its just a substitude to meat cos people can't let go. its a mental form of consolation. for some may think, well it takes time for people to get used to eating veges so let's be patient & accomodating. however, without knowing the real meaning & causes, it's actually not really helping them at all.
mock meat are just bunch of flour. (i'd rather take rice or bread.)
it is like junk food in the spiritual sense. -
Frankly speaking, some natural ingredients, like mushrooms or fungi tastes much more like meat than mock meat. Mock meat just makes vegetarian meals abit more colourful and creative, though also greatly depending on how the cook cooks it.Originally posted by paperflower:i feel mock meat is not true vegetarian. its just a substitude to meat cos people can't let go. its a mental form of consolation. for some may think, well it takes time for people to get used to eating veges so let's be patient & accomodating. however, without knowing the real meaning & causes, it's actually not really helping them at all.
mock meat are just bunch of flour. (i'd rather take rice or bread.)
it is like junk food in the spiritual sense. -
How about removing the human mind?Originally posted by sinweiy:sigh...maybe it's the "excuse/revenge " of the meat eating(or desire/mara) on preventing ppl from taking up vegetarian. yin guo again.....cause and effect...vegetarian ppl used to say the meat eater...now the meat eater say back the vegetarian.
ps: actually the most "healthy food" is when u eat that time, your mind is free from attachment, dualism and wandering thoughts.... period!
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I guess one has to go back to the question on why one becomes a vegetarian first. -
I've never tasted mock meat that came close to tasting like real meat so I don't think people eat it because they miss the taste of meat. It's not a good substitute.
However I do think people eat it for variety in their meals.
And yes, if one is that enlightened it wouldn't matter what he ate, because he eats to live only hehehh.
Just my opinion ! -
I like mock meat...
I always buy it from Just Greens -
Originally posted by Parka:
for cultivating a compassionate heart/mind and for health, be it physical or 'karmic'.
I guess one has to go back to the question on why one becomes a vegetarian first.
but here's 101 reasons:
http://www.flex.com/~jai/articles/101.html
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Originally posted by choco B:
concur!
so I don't think people eat it because they miss the taste of meat. It's not a good substitute.
However I do think people eat it for variety in their meals.
And yes, if one is that enlightened it wouldn't matter what he ate, because he eats to live only hehehh.
Just my opinion !
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
u have to locate the mind first. if cannot locate how to remove?
How about removing the human mind?
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