All stories are told by the mind
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"I was walking to work, alongside the Sengawa river, just like every day, when in an instant I got it. Every damned thing I'd ever read in a Buddhist book was confirmed that day. The Universe was me and I was the Universe. I looked up at the sky and it was exactly like looking at a mirror. I don't mean that metaphorically either. You know the feeling of recognition you get when you look in a mirror? That's me, you say. Well I got that feeling no matter where I looked. There was no doubt that this state was true. I had no need to confirm it with anyone. And this state has stayed with me ever since then. Even if I want to put it down I can't. Sometimes it's painful. You know those assholes that rammed those planes into the World Trade Center? That was me. The people that died in the collapse. Me again. I don't mean I identify with them or sympathize with them. I mean I am them. It's impossible to explain, but this isn't a figure of speech or bad poetry. I mean it absolutely literally.
wtf i wont wanna be like that
"But the Universe is soooooo much bigger than any of that. The sky is me, and the stars too, chirping crickets and the songs they make, sparkling rivers, snow and rain, distant solar systems and whoever may live there, it's all me. And it's all you, too." - Brad Warner, author of Hardcore Zen -
as long as i am aware its ok since i need some thoughts to live in a societyOriginally posted by neutral_onliner:wow so good
ok maybe u can start tmr.So tmr stop having any thought be mindful and stay full awareness.See and observe for yourself and check how long can you be mindful of every present moment.
so tmr when you r walking,you walk when you r eating u eat Don't think about something else, thus ignoring the current moment
And yes even thinking of not having a thought is a thought -
Your ego doesn't want to know the truth.Originally posted by Cenarious:wtf i wont wanna be like that -
ya maybe but i dont want a truth that makes me feel bad if some jerk decides to cut himself in front of meOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:Your ego doesn't want to know the truth. -
You wont feel bad like some jerk because there is no more ego. But you will feel a deep sense of compassion, and as Brad Warner said it's not just some sympathy or pity.Originally posted by Cenarious:ya maybe but i dont want a truth that makes me feel bad if some jerk decides to cut himself in front of me
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I think what Ken Wilber said in the second video is true and quite touching. The vows of the Bodhisattvas always amazes me. -
Even if I want to put it down I can't. Sometimes it's painful. You know those assholes that rammed those planes into the World Trade Center? That was me. The people that died in the collapse. Me again. I don't mean I identify with them or sympathize with them. I mean I am them. It's impossible to explain, but this isn't a figure of speech or bad poetry. I mean it absolutely literally.
not feel bad like a jerk but feel the pain -
but you are angry just now when anger thought ariseOriginally posted by Cenarious:thoughts arise but they do not stain me, and if i dont want a particular thought to arise then it wont arise and now you r no longer angry as angry thought ceased
likewise u can't stay forever in a happy mood .Try observing the change of ur mood One moment we re happy one moment we re sad next angry and most of time we don even notice it Try telling yourself 'i want to feel happy now' when you'r in a very sad mood well no matter how u wana stop such thought of sadness from arising u just can't
You think u can control ur mind but u just couldn't -
i dont want happy mood i want thoughtlessness, and i havent been sad for a very long timeOriginally posted by neutral_onliner:but you are angry just now when anger thought arise and now you r no longer angry as angry thought ceased
likewise u can't stay forever in a happy mood .Try observing the change of ur mood One moment we re happy one moment we re sad next angry and most of time we don even notice it Try telling yourself 'i want to feel happy now' when you'r in a very sad mood well no matter how u wana stop such thought of sadness from arising u just can't
You think u can control ur mind but u just couldn't -
ofcourse it ok my fren.U see my pt is actually to let you understand tat u cannot fully control ur mind and thoughts.Originally posted by Cenarious:as long as i am aware its ok since i need some thoughts to live in a society
Many of us have a busy life. At the end of the day when it's time to rest, the mind refuses to relax. It dwells in things that have happened during the day, or it could be planning something for tomorrow, or worrying about the future. When the mind abides in the past or in the future, we forget about the present and these precious moments will be lost.
To live in the present moment is to make every act count. Our daily encounters can be happy or unpleasant but when we are open, we can see what they have to teach us. When we bring the mind and body together, we become conscious of our speech, conscious of our movement, conscious of our thought. All of these experiences can help us grow and enrich our lives. -
how do you know i can't?Originally posted by neutral_onliner:ofcourse it ok my fren.U see my pt is actually to let you understand tat u cannot fully control ur mind and thoughts.
Many of us have a busy life. At the end of the day when it's time to rest, the mind refuses to relax. It dwells in things that have happened during the day, or it could be planning something for tomorrow, or worrying about the future. When the mind abides in the past or in the future, we forget about the present and these precious moments will be lost.
To live in the present moment is to make every act count. Our daily encounters can be happy or unpleasant but when we are open, we can see what they have to teach us. When we bring the mind and body together, we become conscious of our speech, conscious of our movement, conscious of our thought. All of these experiences can help us grow and enrich our lives. -
well just to let u noe tat nothing is permanent this impermanence of nature is beyond our control.Just pay more attention to ur mood and u will relise it yourselfOriginally posted by Cenarious:i dont want happy mood i want thoughtlessness, and i havent been sad for a very long time -
as long as i am aware, my control will get stronger.Originally posted by neutral_onliner:well just to let u noe tat nothing is permanent this impermanence of nature is beyond our control.Just pay more attention to ur mood and u will relise it yourself -
Resistance and 'control' is also in the dynamics of flow. Do you think 'you' are the one controlling?Originally posted by Cenarious:as long as i am aware, my control will get stronger.
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well it does'nt matter whether i noe it or not but whether u yourself have realised it .You are the one who r responsible for your own well beingOriginally posted by Cenarious:how do you know i can't? if u can good for u and we'r all happy for u.
It quite late liao need to work tmr.Nice chatting wf you good nite
May u be happy
sorry(almost 4get)...and good nite to all who r in the conversation -
yes, i am also part or all of natureOriginally posted by longchen:Resistance and 'control' is also in the dynamics of flow. Do you think 'you' are the one controlling? -
Sorry I read wrongly..Originally posted by Cenarious:not feel bad like a jerk but feel the pain
You will be compassionate, you will be a Bodhisattva and engage in the midst of Samsara, the world of suffering. But meanwhile he is also aware of the dream-like nature, so the pain is also not our kind of samsaric pain without awareness which means suffering stuck to yourself, it is 'divine pain' - the sense of compassion. As I mentioned, Bodhisattva is 'Jue, You Qing', compassionate and aware. Ultimately samsara is not that real anymore, you are not 'caught up with it', yet due to compassion the Bodhisattva remains in Samsara to help people. "Hurts more, bother you less" - and very important to honour both sides.
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Compassionate is quite automatic in most of us - if you see lots of people in front of your eyes - suffering, I think you will naturally feel a sense of compassion for them. But the Bodhisattvas have even greater compassion than us, they can even engage in even the deepest hell to wake us up.
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Yes... sort of.Originally posted by Cenarious:yes, i am also part or all of nature -
so cenarious, after reading the book by Eckhart Tolle that even make you cry, what did you get? you think buddhism is boring, is it?
First of all, can you elaborate more what kind of supernatural power you want to have, flying around, telepathy, seeing ghost or what. -
Originally posted by justdoit77:
i got freed from thinking
so cenarious, after reading the book by Eckhart Tolle that even make you cry, what did you get? you think buddhism is boring, is it?First of all, can you elaborate more what kind of supernatural power you want to have, flying around, telepathy, seeing ghost or what.
all of buddha's powers -
You are freed from thinking and yet are troubled by boredness... I really can't imagine that. Isn't dislike of boredness a kind of thinking?Originally posted by Cenarious:i got freed from thinking
If you want the buddha's powers for the sake of saving the beings, you will achieve this objective eventually.Originally posted by Cenarious:all of buddha's powers
But if you are after it due to your greed, you will never get it.
Buddha's power is attained when one practise hard enough and totally get rid of all attachment as well as greed, hatred and delusion. We have been in samsara since no beginning in the past, how can you expect to achieve this in a few years time (let's assume you get to know buddhism for few years only) -
You are freed from thinking and yet are troubled by boredness... I really can't imagine that. Isn't dislike of boredness a kind of thinking?
i am not troubled by boredom. i trouble boredom when i want to.