if alcohol is so bad
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won't the body breaking down when you die make it worse?
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Alcohol are not all bad, but excessive is no good for health. Abit of Alcohol will stimulate the blood circulation, but too much will kill your liver and other internal organs.Originally posted by Cenarious:won't the body breaking down when you die make it worse? -
Red Wine does it best.Originally posted by path_seeker:Alcohol are not all bad, but excessive is no good for health. Abit of Alcohol will stimulate the blood circulation, but too much will kill your liver and other internal organs.
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i hear that alcohol makes one unable to concentrate or something
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no, can still drink alcohol but dun drink until next morning you wake up finding yourself in the bed with some woman you dun know.
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yes, alcohol used for the purpose of intoxication obstructs one's ability to develop wisdom and samadhi. This is noted by li zhu lao shi and shi fu. And also Sangha (remember?), whose drink got spiked by his friend and found difficulty meditating for the next few days. All buddhist should try to stop or cut down alcohol consumption since it is against precepts to take substances that causes intoxication, whether alcohol or other drugs.Originally posted by Cenarious:i hear that alcohol makes one unable to concentrate or something
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isn't it worse if u die?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:yes, alcohol used for the purpose of intoxication obstructs one's ability to develop wisdom and samadhi. This is noted by li zhu lao shi and shi fu. And also Sangha (remember?), whose drink got spiked by his friend and found difficulty meditating for the next few days. All buddhist should try to stop or cut down alcohol consumption since it is against precepts to take substances that causes intoxication, whether alcohol or other drugs.
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Alcohol can be used for health benefits, like Yomeishu.
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Alcohol is one precepts whereb it could be allowed on special circumstances, ie. after pregnancy or sickness. I agree with AEN that all buddhist should not be addicted by Alcohol, but if for health reason, it is allowed.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:yes, alcohol used for the purpose of intoxication obstructs one's ability to develop wisdom and samadhi. This is noted by li zhu lao shi and shi fu. And also Sangha (remember?), whose drink got spiked by his friend and found difficulty meditating for the next few days. All buddhist should try to stop or cut down alcohol consumption since it is against precepts to take substances that causes intoxication, whether alcohol or other drugs.
See: The Harm of Alcohol & Intoxication
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Health reason is OK, since Buddha's 5th precept is specifically on Intoxication, if alcohol is used not for the purpose of intoxication it should be fine.Originally posted by coolbluewater:Alcohol is one precepts whereb it could be allowed on special circumstances, ie. after pregnancy or sickness. I agree with AEN that all buddhist should not be addicted by Alcohol, but if for health reason, it is allowed.
By the way, this precept is also referring to usage of harmful drugs. -
From my understanding, alcoholic intoxication can lead to low-entity/spirit intrusion.
Some months ago, a friend of mine asked me whether i know anything about mediumship or dang-ki. I said i dunno much... During that time, i sensed that there is a Being/spirit around me. I can't see it but i can sense it. Later on i found out that my friend's BF is a medium or dang-ki. This being that was around me was very likely the Being that possess her boyfriend. The Being might be concerned that i may reveal too much.
I ask my friend whether her BF drinks alcohol and true enough he is a very heavy alcohol drinker and works in a pub. This might have made him an easy target for spirit intrusion. -
Yes it's much worse if you done something wrong under the influence of alcohol and then you die. Then you will suffer very bad karma.Originally posted by Cenarious:isn't it worse if u die? -
Yes that is very true.. that's why sometimes people do silly things under the influence of alcoholOriginally posted by longchen:From my understanding, alcoholic intoxication can lead to low-entity/spirit intrusion.
Some months ago, a friend of mine asked me whether i know anything about mediumship or dang-ki. I said i dunno much... During that time, i sensed that there is a Being/spirit around me. I can't see it but i can sense it. Later on i found out that my friend's BF is a medium or dang-ki. This being that was around me was very likely the Being that possess her boyfriend. The Being might be concerned that i may reveal too much.
I ask my friend whether her BF drinks alcohol and true enough he is a very heavy alcohol drinker and works in a pub. This might have made him an easy target for spirit intrusion. and may not even be aware of it...
I have a friend, he posts in this forum occasionally and is of the same age as me. He know of people who are glue addicts. And one of them gained 'supernatural powers' one day, after he met with a spirit while under the influence of glue. And since then, the spirit has been giving him clairvoyance powers, etc. He knows just about everything, and if there is gang fight going to happen, he knows before hand. And it is completely accurate. And this spirit even showed him signs of something like being hanged to death while sniffing glue? Cant remember details. But I told my friend that it is very very likely that that person will fall into the ghost realm the next life.
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haa...Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Yes that is very true.. that's why sometimes people do silly things under the influence of alcohol and may not even be aware of it...
I have a friend, he posts in this forum occasionally and is of the same age as me. He know of people who are glue addicts. And one of them gained 'supernatural powers' one day, after he met with a spirit while under the influence of glue. And since then, the spirit has been giving him clairvoyance powers, etc. He knows just about everything, and if there is gang fight going to happen, he knows before hand. And it is completely accurate. And this spirit even showed him signs of something like being hanged to death while sniffing glue? Cant remember details. But I told my friend that it is very very likely that that person will fall into the ghost realm the next life.
I think we should avoid using such intoxicants at all costs...
is this what u see, as a buddhist?
all things happen for a reason.
the past is not important
the present lead to future
where the future has not arrive.
will he fall into ghost realm?
haa..
people choose to walk the buddhist way..
but
its not the Buddha way.
what is Buddha way?
Listen and Observe..u find ur way.
im sheddin false light
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You can trust me about this, nothing good comes out in dealing with spirits like that. Humans should cherish the conditions of being a human being, not be too fond of relationships with spirits. There are virtuous and evil spirits. Nevertheless they all belong to the spirit realm. Some people call them spirit guide, but the simple reason why they appear to you is because you have affinity with them, and they may even help you out with or grant you worldly things (and even some spiritual powers!).Originally posted by simplified:haa...
is this what u see, as a buddhist?
all things happen for a reason.
the past is not important
the present lead to future
where the future has not arrive.
will he fall into ghost realm?
haa..
people choose to walk the buddhist way..
but
its not the Buddha way.
what is Buddha way?
Listen and Observe..u find ur way.
im sheddin false light
true light shine within..in u.
But you are now a human, if you always want to be with these beings and even think that they are even better than other fellow human beings, chances are you have already deeply planted the seeds of the ghost realm in your mind. I wonder if i have mentioned before, but i know of people who practised spiritual mediumship, and at death all the spirits want to bring them away. In buddhism, we should avoid dealing with these spirits in this manner.
I have another friend who also post at times here, he used to practise mediumship but now has stopped. He still continues to be able to see spirits. I brought him and someone else new to my dharma centre, but when my dharma teacher was told that someone was able to see spirits, she immediately pointed at the right person and said "is it him? His eyes look very yin". For his case he was asked to take refuge in the triple gem (buddha, dharma, sangha) as soon as possible and to chant buddha/bodhisattva name regularly to increase his "brightness". My dharma teacher also advised him that since he has a lot of affinity with the spirit realm, he should cultivate the dharma well and after enlightenment, he should teach the spirits dharma. Because some spirits are receptive to dharma (they even attend dharma talks).
But if we never practice dharma, and instead act superstitiously, we will surely end up in the spirit realm. As my teacher said, all human beings seek bliss and brightness. Those spirits themselves have not transcended the three poisons, greed, anger, ignorance. Much less transcended samsara (although i know of spirits who claim otherwise to trick people into believing them, they are far out). They themselves are not free of sufferings, they also belong to one of the 3 lower realms unlike human beings who belong to a higher realm, and therefore they are unable to give humans true happiness. Therefore we should associate with the noble and virtuous people in the human realm, those who have practised the dharma, gained insights and cleared their fetters. And not to go into seeking supernatural powers, they are very unimportant and secondary, they should only be a side effect of precepts, samadhi and insight practise. -
that "someone else new" was me
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ya haha.. You have to clarify yourself in two different topics todayOriginally posted by Cenarious:that "someone else new" was me.. Anyway that was so long ago, almost exactly two years ago. Even before this forum was created 