number 1 is a practise in tibetan buddhism. number 2 is christianity.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:What the hell is Cenarious trying to present? An imitation of a diety or the omnipresence of God?
Number 2 is not a buddhistic practice, so is number 1.Originally posted by Cenarious:1. Focusing on a tibetan picture of a deity, and trying to get your sense of self into that deity,
2. Focusing on God, who is everywhere, is in everything, is boundless and has no form.
1. That is not how Tibetan visualisation or any of such practises are done. Furthermore a very important aspect needs to be present. Otherwise it is not the 'falcrum 8'. It is the development of the quality of that bodhisattva you are visualising/etc. Meaning kindness, compassion, etc, all the good qualities.Originally posted by Cenarious:1. Focusing on a tibetan picture of a deity, and trying to get your sense of self into that deity,
2. Focusing on God, who is everywhere, is in everything, is boundless and has no form.
Christians don't practise it this way. Go ask in EH.Originally posted by Cenarious:number 1 is a practise in tibetan buddhism. number 2 is christianity.
1. God is love.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:1. That is not how Tibetan visualisation or any of such practises are done. Furthermore a very important aspect needs to be present. Otherwise it is not the 'falcrum 8'. It is the development of the quality of that bodhisattva you are visualising/etc. Meaning kindness, compassion, etc, all the good qualities.
2. Focusing implies duality. It means making God into an object. "everywhere, in everything, boundless, no form" is only a concept. Whatever concepts you hold on to is not it, even concepts of Buddha nature and so on. Truth is so direct, simple, and requires no such concept.
From 'lame question on meditation':
The Presence has no room for all these. It works through naturalness and directness. Too short to have time and too simple to have thought.
Those who dont practise this way are not listening to Jesus. Jesus said, "love God, love your neighbours". How do you love God? by being with him.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Christians don't practise it this way. Go ask in EH.
1. By merging your self with 'God' and then ceasing your self through it, it doesn't mean you have developed the qualities of love, compassion and so on. Truthz had experienced this through his chanting recently, but it is not the 'falcrum 8' because if it were the 'falcrum 8', he would have attained the qualities of Guan Yin. Furthermore there is a lack of clarity, if there were clarity it would lead to the realisation of our true nature. Let us not any how claim that we know before we even know what the Tibetans are practising.Originally posted by Cenarious:1. God is love.
2. It is a path just as buddhist dharmas are.
cya. dont forget, 7.30Originally posted by Cenarious:i never managed to finish reading that book lol, havent reached the parts about fulcrums. going out now bye