I think I have seen selflessness

• Cenarious

  8 Oct 06, 23:31

  it all doesnt matter because whatever needs to be done will be done by those involved. having no desire and aversion is important for this.
• NotFromVenus

  8 Oct 06, 23:33

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  it all doesnt matter because whatever needs to be done will be done by those involved. having no desire and aversion is important for this.

  What exactly have you seen ??? Jesus on the cross ???
  
  
• Cenarious

  8 Oct 06, 23:35

  selflessness
• NotFromVenus

  8 Oct 06, 23:38

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  selflessness

  So ? What happened ? That makes you think of that adjective?
  
  
• Cenarious

  8 Oct 06, 23:41

  Originally posted by NotFromVenus:

  So ? What happened ? That makes you think of that adjective?
  
  

  because if i were you i would have acted exactly like how u acted
• NotFromVenus

  8 Oct 06, 23:45

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  because if i were you i would have acted exactly like how u acted

  Erm ..... not explainatory leh . You write this to expect who to understand?
  
  Do you mean "Empathetic?"
• Cenarious

  8 Oct 06, 23:48

  Originally posted by NotFromVenus:

  Erm ..... not explainatory leh . You write this to expect who to understand?
  
  Do you mean "Empathetic?"

  its like a pc screen and we are the pixels, if u cut and paste it will be the exact same thing
  
  edit: i mean we are the graphics on the screen not the pixels sorry
• NotFromVenus

  8 Oct 06, 23:50

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  it all doesnt matter because whatever needs to be done will be done by those involved. having no desire and aversion is important for this.

  U mean cut and paste this ?
  
  So what does this do ?
  
  
• Cenarious

  8 Oct 06, 23:52

  Originally posted by NotFromVenus:

  U mean cut and paste this ?
  
  So what does this do ?
  
  

  what u mean "what does this do" what is "this" that u saying
• NotFromVenus

  8 Oct 06, 23:54

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  what u mean "what does this do" what is "this" that u saying
  
  this = "it all doesnt matter because whatever needs to be done will be done by those involved. having no desire and aversion is important for this."
  

  What are you trying to say ?
• Cenarious

  8 Oct 06, 23:54

  Originally posted by NotFromVenus:

  What are you trying to say ?

  that there is no self
• NotFromVenus

  8 Oct 06, 23:56

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  that there is no self

  So it really does mean that nobody "no self " have said anything lor ! simple ?
  
• Cenarious

  8 Oct 06, 23:57

  Originally posted by NotFromVenus:

  So it really does mean that nobody "no self " have said anything lor ! simple ?
  

  there is saying but no sayer
• Cenarious

  9 Oct 06, 00:01

  selves want something but no self just lets it be
• NotFromVenus

  9 Oct 06, 00:01

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  there is saying but no sayer

  What is actually accomplished is more important than what is said. So stop harping on what "nobody" want to say.
  
  What exactly so you want to mean ?
• Cenarious

  9 Oct 06, 00:04

  Originally posted by NotFromVenus:

  What is actually accomplished is more important than what is said. So stop harping on what "nobody" want to say.
  
  What exactly so you want to mean ?

  u r trying to get me to say "i am enlightened". but then there is no one to be enlightened. just habits of self dropping off.
• NotFromVenus

  9 Oct 06, 00:05

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  u r trying to get me to say "i am enlightened". but then there is no one to be enlightened. just habits of self dropping off.

  What exactly are you trying to accomplish ? By posting answers?
  
  there is no wisdom by proving there is wisdom ?
  
  
• Cenarious

  9 Oct 06, 00:07

  Originally posted by NotFromVenus:

  What exactly are you trying to accomplish ? By posting answers?
  
  there is no wisdom by proving there is wisdom ?
  
  

  just wanna see if the enlightened people in this forum will agree that this is selflessness
• NotFromVenus

  9 Oct 06, 00:09

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  just wanna see if the enlightened people in this forum will agree that this is selflessness

  
  
  Erm there will probably be more appropriate if there are some form of examples. On "What have you seen?"
  
  Then there's something to discuss about ? No point proving wisdom ... it's not wise to do so.
• Cenarious

  9 Oct 06, 00:11

  Originally posted by NotFromVenus:

  
  
  Erm there will probably be more appropriate if there are some form of examples. On "What have you seen?"
  
  Then there's something to discuss about ? No point proving wisdom ... it's not wise to do so.

  i see selflessness (i think)
  i didnt see what light or anything unless you mean everything is the light
• NotFromVenus

  9 Oct 06, 00:17

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  i see selflessness (i think)
  i didnt see what light or anything unless you mean everything is the light

  Discussions does not accomplish anything , It is important to know that in the real world:
  
  Salvation(of people) is accomplished by organization efforts of assigning charitable tasks , getting more people to believe in ethical behavior.
  
  (if this is the general accomplishments of churches , monastaries) Other than the "Fund raisings "which have shady beneficiaries(throughout history).
  
  
• Cenarious

  9 Oct 06, 00:20

  Originally posted by NotFromVenus:

  Discussions does not accomplish anything , It is important to know that in the real world:
  
  Salvation(of people) is accomplished by organization efforts of assigning charitable tasks , getting more people to believe in ethical behavior.
  
  (if this is the general accomplishments of churches , monastaries) Other than the "Fund raisings "which have shady beneficiaries(throughout history).
  
  

  those who come upon the conditions to do charity will do the charity. if i were that person i will also do the exact same thing. same for u because the conditions are exactly the same.
  
  and im only seeking confirmation here.
• NotFromVenus

  9 Oct 06, 00:24

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  those who come upon the conditions to do charity will do the charity. if i were that person i will also do the exact same thing. same for u because the conditions are exactly the same.
  
  and im only seeking confirmation here.

  Probably becoz you juz reach the stage whereby you see other people as mirrors of yourself and you look at their world from their souls.
  
  Its something at a certain point , we can feel that in fact this goes with what was written and taught in the bible whereby "all souls are one" and that the salvation that all our souls will not be saved until everyone is saved.
  
  Which is why my siggy says only if you have a place for everyone for heaven.
• Cenarious

  9 Oct 06, 00:26

  Originally posted by NotFromVenus:

  Probably becoz you juz reach the stage whereby you see other people as mirrors of yourself and you look at their world from their souls.
  
  Its something at a certain point , we can feel that in fact this goes with what was written and taught in the bible whereby "all souls are one" and that the salvation that all our souls will not be saved until everyone is saved.
  
  Which is why my siggy says only if you have a place for everyone for heaven.

  the bible says that? which verse?
• NotFromVenus

  9 Oct 06, 00:28

  Originally posted by Cenarious:

  the bible says that? which verse?

  I don't exactly quote from the bible coz I'm not christian and a bible fanatic.
  Somewhere in life I was given this knowledge by a christian friend of mine to affirm my understanding of this path.
  
  added after:
  Discovery of "Empathetic" can lead to greatness or your own weakness that others whom do not share this empathy can take advantage of. Please have a balance once you have taken control of being empathetic or sympathetic.
  
  Not everyone appreciates Empathy.