so in conclusion buddhism can be summarised as
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"it doesn't matter"?
after i read this http://www.buddhistinformation.com/ida_b_wells_memorial_sutra_library/a_little_spell_of_emptiness.htm -
Erm, things do matter in the relative sense, at the ultimate level "all is well".Originally posted by Cenarious:"it doesn't matter"?
after i read this http://www.buddhistinformation.com/ida_b_wells_memorial_sutra_library/a_little_spell_of_emptiness.htm
Anyway a summary of buddhism is this.. "avoid all evil, do all virtuous, purify the mind" and this is taught by all buddhas. -
a way of life.
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what thing isnt a way of life? duhOriginally posted by FireIce:a way of life. -
precisely!
so it's just a way of life!
as simple as that
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but you are training yourself to be ultimate level all the time right?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Erm, things do matter in the relative sense, at the ultimate level "all is well".
Anyway a summary of buddhism is this.. "avoid all evil, do all virtuous, purify the mind" and this is taught by all buddhas. -
FireIce mastered Zazen thinking?Originally posted by FireIce:precisely!
so it's just a way of life!
as simple as that -
Outstanding!Originally posted by FireIce:precisely!
so it's just a way of life!
as simple as that 
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someone asked Monk Bu Dai, what's Buddhadharma/Buddhism?
Monk Bu Dai put down His bag(bu dai).
then the person asked afther that what do you do?
Monk Bu Dai took the bag up and left.
now this is very interesting, regarding the re-picking up!
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seki.
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Buddhadharma is called the Lion's Roar - The Challenge of Dharma
It is a challenge, it is a call to awakening - to be all that we are.
Not to become somebody else.
Not to live somebody else's life.
Not to imitate somebody else's way of dress or diet or thinking.
But to be our true authentic self, genuinely.
We don't just believe in something, accept or follow dogma but to travel there ourselves and experience it to confirm it for ourselves and discover it for ourselves.
- Lama Surya Das
"You have only three things to do in this lifetime:
Honor your guru.
Deepen your realization of emptiness.
Deepen your compassion."
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My summarisation is thus:
A waste of time and effort. -
Ever heard of 'jing di zhi wa' (frog in the well)? Only those who have never experienced dharma would say such things.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:My summarisation is thus:
A waste of time and effort. -
Then is it possible for people to never in their lives experience dharma?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Ever heard of 'jing di zhi wa' (frog in the well)? Only those who have never experienced dharma would say such things. -
life's greatest 'enjoyment' is knowing Buddhadharma/Buddhism. - a philosophy teacher Mr Fang tong mei.
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Of course! Therefore the Buddha said, 'Human life is hard to attain, and it is difficult to encounter the dharma'.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Then is it possible for people to never in their lives experience dharma?
Most people in Singapore and many other parts of the world are too busily engrossed in material pursuits and seeking in life. Their whole life is seeking, seeking and seeking... always looking for something at the external world, maybe satisfied for a while but not too long. It is very difficult for such people to be convinced that true joy and bliss can be found if we look within. Therefore, they are like the frog in the well, or perhaps its the other way round, 'they don't look at the box they are sitting on'. Now I'm not saying there is anything wrong with working to get a more decent living on the material level, but many people are totally attached to that story and completely engrossed in seeking a better material life, not knowing about any spiritual aspects. Most people's life are also far from blissful, often stormy and painful... if one were to know the Buddhadharma, then one would be able to transcend all this. Buddhism is a way of blissful living.
What is Buddhadharma all about? It is to discover our innate blissful, pure, indestructible nature... as opposed seeking things that are illusory and temporary. I can tell you, many people's life are truly a waste of time because what they attained will not last and is never satisfactory.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
My shi fu spent plenty of years wandering with no possessions, broken shelter, bad clothes and no good food
As was said above, one becomes truly wealthy only by finding one's 'jewel' - the all pervading dharma nature/buddha nature that is always present all long, can be found if we look within.
[b]One day a stranger walked by. "Spare some change?" mumbled the beggar, "I have nothing to give you," said the stranger. Then he asked: "What's that you're sitting on?" "Nothing, " replied the beggar. "Just an old box. I've been sitting on it for as long as I can remember. "Ever look inside?," asked the stranger. "No," said the beggar. "What's the point, there's nothing in there." "Have a look inside," insisted the stranger. The beggar, reluctantly, managed to pry open the lid. With astonishment, disbelief, and elation, he saw that the box was filled with gold.
I am that stranger who has nothing to give you and who is telling you to look inside. Not inside any box, as in the parable, but somewhere even closer: inside yourself.
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You got to be kidding me, I thought everything is impermanent including human nature?Originally posted by An Eternal Now: -
Our Buddha Nature has continuity, and is not temporary formations that come and go.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:You got to be kidding me, I thought everything is impermanent including human nature?
But it is not 'permanent' or 'eternal' like as if there a thing that is permanent hiding somewhere. Just like the law of physics is not a 'thing' that is 'eternal' but has continuity as far as this universe is concerned.
Of course when 'temporary formations' seen rightly is merely a manifestation of our primordial nature. Samsara rightly seen is Nirvana. Change occur but they are not changing 'things', that is seeing dharma nature. -
Thus I disagree with Guatama Buddha that Buddha Nature is impermanent.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Our Buddha Nature has continuity, and is not temporary formations that come and go.
But it is not 'permanent' or 'eternal' like as if there a thing that is permanent hiding somewhere. Just like the law of physics is not a 'thing' that is 'eternal' but has continuity as far as this universe is concerned.
Of course when 'temporary formations' seen rightly is merely a manifestation of our primordial nature. Samsara rightly seen is Nirvana. Change occur but they are not changing 'things', that is seeing dharma nature.
Even the laws of Physics bends at some point, why not Buddha Nature? -
Law of physics is only an analogy and not a good one. In reality we do will not 'exist' without buddha nature. It is like a mirror that reflects all, without which we will not be aware of anything. It is like space, without space we cannot be. It is like a projector, and projects the entire world in our mind like a cinema projects the images on the screen. Buddha nature is also known as primordial luminosity, or like a sun. Therefore it is not a law that is under space and time. Our buddha nature transcend space and time and is ever present. But everyone is busy engrossed in the movie, not realising it is only a show, that it isn't real. They forgot to look within... The primordial consciousness. Any analogies described above is not it, only description and is very limited, like trying to describe colours to the blind. You can only describe things he could relate but you can never show him what colours are.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Thus I disagree with Guatama Buddha that Buddha Nature is impermanent.
Even the laws of Physics bends at some point, why not Buddha Nature? -
It seems like my description is inadequate and without the right understanding of dharma seals, emptiness, dependent origination, one may mistake buddha nature as the brahman experienced by many hindus and christian, islam mystics and so on. Just take note. Although same experience but they cannot break through certain obstructions without the right understanding.
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Or false knowledge?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:It seems like my description is inadequate and without the right understanding of dharma seals, emptiness, dependent origination, one may mistake buddha nature as the brahman experienced by many hindus and christian, islam mystics and so on. Just take note. Although same experience but they cannot break through certain obstructions without the right understanding.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
impermanence is the 'changing' or form aspect of "thing". the 'essence' aspect is still there. for example water. when water is in liquid state, it can rain onto the ground. than due to heat, water dries up and turn into gaseous state. we even have water in solid ice state in the cold places. hence water undergo change and it is impermanent. but the 'essence' of water, H2O is always there. understand?
You got to be kidding me, I thought everything is impermanent including human nature?
100 fa ming men have 5 types:
1) xin fa (mind dharma) - 8 consciousness
2) xin shuo fa (the working of mind) = 50 kind
3) se fa(form dharma) - 11 kind, 5 sense organ(mind is included in type 1), 6 chen/senses (eg smell etc).
4) bu xiang yi xing fa - 24 kind, exist yet not exist...like time or space.they are abstruct. but still they are from xin xin shuo sheng fa (mind create).
5) wu wei fa - bu sheng bu mia (neither born nor destroy).
1-4 are you wei fa(continuos). you wei fa got 94. wu wei got 6.
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impermanence is the 'changing' or form aspect of "thing". the 'essence' aspect is still there. for example water. when water is in liquid state, it can rain onto the ground. than due to heat, water dries up and turn into gaseous state. we even have water in solid ice state in the cold places. hence water undergo change and it is impermanent. but the 'essence' of water, H2O is always there. understand?
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Originally posted by Cenarious:
got different.
that sounds like jainism.[/b]
it's more like "flux of energy".
ref:
The Buddha said, 'The body, O monks, is not the Self. Sensation is not the Self. Perception is not the Self. The mental constructions are not the Self. And neither is consciousness the Self. Perceiving this, O monks, the disciple sets no value on the body, or on sensation, or on perception, or on mental constructions, or on consciousness. Setting no value of them, he becomes free of passions and he is liberated. The knowledge of liberation arises there within him. And then he knows that he has done what has to be done, that he has lived the holy life, that he is no longer becoming this or that, that his rebirth is destroyed.' (Anatta-Lakkhana Sutta).
The Anatta doctrine of the Buddha is over 2500 years old. Today the thought current of the modern scientific world is flowing towards the Buddha's Teaching of Anatta or No-Soul. In the eyes of the modern scientists, man is merely a bundle of ever-changing sensations. Modern physicists say that the apparently solid universe is not, in reality, composed of solid substance at all, but actually a flux of energy. The modern physicist sees the whole universe as a process of transformation of various forces of which man is a mere part. The Buddha was the first to realize this.
Soul-Theories
http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Clubs/buddhism/dhammananda/115.htm
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