Originally posted by despondent:If worship means bowing... then bowing to your teacher in class, bowing to your parents (very common practise especially in the past in asia), bowing to kings and queens are considered worship?
juz wanna ask some qns abt buddhism...
1) is there any form of worship in buddhism? (worship is define as like other religions where there is bowing n offerings to the gods)
2) does buddhism involve the qing ming festival?Nope. Qing Ming is a cultural tradition of the Chinese. But doesn't mean Buddhists cannot take part in Qing Ming.. we all do pay our respects during Qing Ming to our ancestors, relatives, etc. But 'ancestor worship' is not Buddhism.
3) is there any offering of joss sticks or burnt offerings to buddha?We do not burn things. Joss stick.. yes. It represents the fragrace of Dao De
4) in funerals where there is burning of offerings(paper car, houses etc) n chanting of rituals, r they buddhist funerals?No. We do not believe that spirits will receive any benefits through this method. You may also be interested to read, Ullambana Dharma - Not Festival Of Hungry Ghosts
5) if child of a true buddhist chooses to be chtristian for eg, how shld the buddhist respond?He is free to choose really.. nobody can deny them their freedom of religion. But if lets say you are a parent... you are a very good practitioner of Buddhism, and keeps your child well-informed about Buddhist teachings, I think he will become a great practitioner in future too. But if you do not practise the teachings, and have no knowledge of Buddhism, then naturally the child may seek elsewhere to learn more about spirituality.
juZ trying to clarify some doubts n finding distinctions btw true buddhisn n taoism...thanxI see. Anyway FYI.. religious Taoism is not the original Taoism. I would call what we know now as 'folks traditions'. The original Taoism (in the teachings taught by Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu) has nothing to do with worship.. deities... and the supernatural. It is more about realising our true nature.
Originally posted by marcteng:Amitabha is part of Mahayana teachings.
I also have some questions of my own.
Do Theravadins accept Bodhisattvas and Amitabha Buddha and other Buddhas into their teachings?
Arahants (already in Nibbana) still have to come back to samsara and strive for Buddhahood? Did Shakyamuni Buddha said the Buddha's will wake them up from Nibbanic bliss and asked them to come back to samsara?Yes. According to Mahayana teachings, the Arhant still has to practise 20000 great kalpas to reach Buddhahood.
Originally posted by despondent:hi Amituofo,
juz wanna ask some qns abt buddhism...
1) is there any form of worship in buddhism? (worship is define as like other religions where there is bowing n offerings to the gods)
2) does buddhism involve the qing ming festival?
3) is there any offering of joss sticks or burnt offerings to buddha?
4) in funerals where there is burning of offerings(paper car, houses etc) n chanting of rituals, r they buddhist funerals?
5) if child of a true buddhist chooses to be chtristian for eg, how shld the buddhist respond?
juZ trying to clarify some doubts n finding distinctions btw true buddhisn n taoism...thanx
Originally posted by despondent:Dua be gong... no. That is a taoist deity.
so in buddhism, there is onli buddha? no other gods like guanyin, da bo gong etc? i heard tat buddhism also includes guanyin...
also after a person dies, do buddhist believe in paying respect to them every yr after tat? i heard somewhere tat buddhists dun do tis cos the person alredi been reborn so no need to visit tomb anymore...Not really... we don't respect them just because 'their spirits are around'. Even if they are reborn somewhere, we still continue to respect them. Even free thinkers can go to Qing Ming and pay their respect.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
http://www.humanbliss.com.sg/ques_ansdetails.asp?articleNo=63
(Translated - if any errors please kindly inform me.. thanks)
[b]The Soundless Sound
Question: What is the dharma door of Guan Yin (Avalokitesvara)?
Answer: What is the dharma door of Guan Yin? In Buddhism, there is this term called "The Four Immeasurables - love, compassion, joy and equanimity". Love must have boundless love, Compassion must have boundless compassion, Joy must have boundless joy, Equanimity must have boundless equanimity. Within the Four Immeasurables, Love and Compassion is a very important dharma door, within the Bodhisattvas, many Bodhisattvas are representations of qualities. For example, Great Wisdom Manjusri Bodhisattva represents Wisdom, Great Action Samantabhadra Bodhisattva represents Great Action, Great Vow Ksitigarbha Bodhisattva represents Great Vows, Great Strength Bodhisattva represents Joyful Equanimity. Whereas, what Guan Yin Bodhisattva represents is the great Love and Compassion. The Primordial substance of the universe has the heart of Great Love and Compassion, and Guan Yin represents this Great Love and Compassion.
Guan Yin Bodhisattva is a bodhisattva at the Western Sukhavati (Western Pure Land), in future will succeed Amitabha in his 'Buddha seat'. Actually, Guan Yin Bodhisattva has through past lifetimes over many eons already attained Buddhahood, his Buddha name is 'Brightness of True Dharma Thus Come One'. There is a phrase "Because compassion is too strong, he treats Samsara as his place of practise" (zi ying ci bei xin tai qie, que ba suo puo dang dao chang - did I translate wrongly?) Because Guan Yin is too compassionate, he never discriminates who to save, so his place of practise (dao chang) is right in Samsara. Guan Yin Bodhisattva resides in Western Sukhavati (The Western World of Utmost Bliss), as the name suggests, that place is too joyful. However we in Samsara have too much sufferings. This is because the world of samsara is full of sentient beings with suffering minds, Guan Yin Bodhisattva has a special affinity with us, therefore relieves our sufferings. Whoever has sufferings, you just have to chant the name of the Bodhisattva, Guan Yin Pu Sa will come to aid you.
Buddhism talks about equality of 'friends and foes' (yuan qing). Not only Buddhists venerate Guan Yin, even deviant cults and outer paths venerate Guan Yin Bodhisattva, Guan Yin Bodhisattva will equally relieve their sufferings. Our society has a lot of deviant cults, outer paths, ghost-deity temples, they all venerate Guan Yin Bodhisattva. That is because Guan Yin Bodhisattva is too compassionate, he never discriminates who he should save, who he shouldn't save, he will save (du4 hua4) all of them, therefore Guan Yin Bodhisattva is venerated everywhere.
Guan Yin Bodhisattva manifests his appearance according to categories. There are billions of manifest-bodies. For example: if a man needs to be saved by a 'zai guan', he will appear as a 'zai guan' to speak the dharma. If one needs to be saved by the form of the King of Ghosts, Guan Yin will appear as the king of ghosts to him and speak of the dharma. If one needs to be saved by the appearance of male or female children, Guan Yiin will appear as a male or female child and speak of the dharma. Not only will Guan Yin manifest as 'zai guan', male or female children, Bhikkhu as well as Bhikkhuni, manifest as various bodies to speak of the dharma, Guan Yin Bodhisattva can also manifest as 'Grass-Wood Deity' and speak of the dharma. E.g. in hell, there are many rulers of hell, who are manifestations of Guan Yin in manifest-bodies, because Guan Yin Bodhisattva's 'compassionate form' does not work in saving these difficult-to-reform sentient beings. Therefore, Guan Yin will manifest as 'Vajra vengeful eyes' (Jing1 Gang1 Nu4 Mu4) to save the sentient beings. There are also many 'small ghosts' who are not afraid of compassionate and virtuous looks, Guan Yin Bodhisattva has great love and compassion, so he manifests as King of Ghosts to save them. As for Guan Yin Bodhisattva manifest as 'zai guan sheng' to speak the dharma, what is zai guan sheng? That is to the masses there are officials who have the authority to judge/sentence people on trial, these are called 'zai guan', doesn't necessarily have to be mean the appearance of 'zai xiang'. There are many 'small ghosts' who are hard to reform, Guan Yin Bodhisattva then manifests as King of Ghosts, for example, manifest as police, or even as a a judge of court to deal with it, this will be able to save (du hua) these 'small ghosts'.
Guan Shi Yin Bodhisattva practises "Ear Faculty Complete/Rounded Penetration" dharma door, this is because he practises till "turning perceiving inwards to perceive self-nature". What is "turning perceiving inwards to perceive self-nature"? That is not like ordinary people who listens to sounds outside, then follow the sound away. In contrast, his hearing faculty listens to self-nature, therefore he could succeed when practising this dharma door, irregardless of where sentient beings reside in the universe, suffering from whatsoever disasters, only if you chant his name, he will hear it. Actually, the dharma door he practises is very simple, everyone can practise it, let us all now discuss how to practise dharma, let everyone learn Guan Yin Bodhisattva, I will state an example.
Once, there is a small child who is eating rice, suddenly he puts down his chopsticks and said "Shi Fu! Shi Fu! I heard it!" I asked, "What did you hear?" He said "I heard the sound of no sound." May I ask, have all of you heard of the sound of no sound? Shen Kai is talking here, you all can hear, hear what? Heard Shen Kai talking. Now Shen Kai stops talking, does everyone hear it? Three minutes later everyone answer this question. Ok! Three minutes passed, does everyone hear it? If you hear, raise your hands. Good! Please say, (one of the audience said: at this place other than Fa Shi's voice, there are no other voices.) Wrong! Wrong! When Fa Shi is talking, you hear the voice of Fa Shi speaking the dharma. When Fa Shi is not speaking, you hear the sound of "no speaking dharma". This is called awareness-nature, awareness-nature does not change, when talking about 'ear faculty complete/rounded penetration' dharma door, that is called 'perceiving nature not changing', other than perceiving external sounds, you perceive your self-nature, that is the sound of no sound. You only need to go back, everyday with your ear faculty attend to self-nature and not move, 'turning inwards and perceive self-nature', if you practise this way, one day you will succeed. If everyone practises 'ear faculty complete/rounded penetration', everyone will be able to be Guan Yin Bodhisattva.
Because Guan Yin Bodhisattva has great love and compassion, we also should learn Guan Yin Bodhisattva's great love and compassion. When we hear about society's whatever sufferings, we should also be Guan Yin Bodhisattva, and relieve all the sufferings. If we do not learn from Guan Yin Bodhisattva, then why are we asking this question? Since we want to ask this question, we should venerate Bodhisattva, respect Bodhisattva, learn from Bodhisattva, be a Bodhisattva, congratulations to everyone who shall be Guan Yin Bodhisattva.
(Ven. Shen Kai)[/b]
Nope. Are you a Christian? You may want to show your parents:Originally posted by despondent:one more thing..tis is impt to me...is it rite for a buddhist to forbid their children from joining other religions? to the pt of threatening to forsake the children they do?
Originally posted by marcteng:Amituofo!
I also have some questions of my own.
Do Theravadins accept Bodhisattvas and Amitabha Buddha and other Buddhas into their teachings?
Arahants (already in Nibbana) still have to come back to samsara and strive for Buddhahood? Did Shakyamuni Buddha said the Buddha's will wake them up from Nibbanic bliss and asked them to come back to samsara?
Thereafter the Buddha Amitabha and other Buddhas resembling the sun arouse them in order to remove the undefiled ignorance . Thereupon the Arahants make their creative effort for Supreme Enlightenment and, though they abide in a state of deliverance, they act (in the phenomenal world) as if they were making a descent to hell. And gradually, having accumulated all the factors for the attainment of Enlightenment, they become teachers of living beings (i.e., Buddhas)."/\
I believe many of these parents themselves have little idea of Buddhism but anyway Buddha really didn't taught that way.Originally posted by despondent:thanx a lot moderator...so i take it the answer is a no...well, yes i am a christian but tis issue dun affect me...it affect many of my fellow christians...they face parental objections, some to the pt of threats to disown them...n these parents claim to be buddhists...
ok, then does buddhism offer any explanation as to where man came from? n does it determine wad is gd or bad? since salvation is by gd works...hope u r nt bored by my qns...thanx
Upali was one of the chief followers of the Jain master, Mahavira. Because of his intelligence, Upali often appeared in public debates on behalf of the Jains.In Buddhism, men came from the Light-Sound heaven. See: http://buddhism.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=185514, the post starting from 08 April 2006 · 11:38 PM
There was one incident where Upali had a debate with the Buddha. At
the end of the debate, Upali was so impressed with the Buddha's teachings that he asked to be the Enlightened One's follower. "Venerable Sir, please allow me to be your follower".
To that, the Buddha answered, "Upali, you are at the height of your emotions. Go home and reconsider it carefully before you ask me again".
Upali was extremely impressed, "If it was any other guru, he will parade a banner saying, 'Mahavira's chief lay-disciple has become my follower'. But you, Venerable Sir, you asked me to go home and reconsider. Now, I want to be your follower even more. I will not stand up until you accept me".
Finally, the Buddha agreed to accept Upali, under one condition, "Upali, as a Jain, you have always given alms to Jain monks. When you become my follower, you will CONTINUE to give alms to Jain monks. This is my condition".
Upali agreed to this condition.
We do not burn things. Joss stick.. yes. It represents the fragrace of Dao De It has symbolic meaning. But it isn't necessary to put joss stick all over the monastery. Just a bow would be enough.yes, it's best we can be reminded of the significant Dharma meaning of the gestures we see in the monasteries.
Something I want to add....Originally posted by An Eternal Now:I believe many of these parents themselves have little idea of Buddhism but anyway Buddha really didn't taught that way.
Ok... so just to begin.. Buddhism in India has disappeared about 1500 years ago... and moved on to other places before Hinduism absorbed Buddhism into one of their sects. There is Buddhism in India now, although most of them are Hindus. Buddhism is rising in India (mostly Vajrayana) although it is still a minority religion.Originally posted by despondent:hey can anyone give me a brief n i mean brief account of the differeences btw the major types of buddhism? i understand tat china, india, tibet n thailand practise diff. buddhism...how r they diff?
Not sure. But that job is not considered Right Livelihood under 8 fold path in the first place. My dharma teacher was v against casino and written to our leaders about it before. She suggested other alternative ways to do away with casinos and stimulate economy. As for the karma of taking 'kiddie package'.. possibly. But we aren't Buddhas so we can only speculate.Originally posted by onceinabluemoon:
Does Buddhism say anything abut doing something so harmful to innocent children that your life is at stake?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Not sure. But that job is not considered Right Livelihood under 8 fold path in the first place. My dharma teacher was v against casino and written to our leaders about it before. She suggested other alternative ways to do away with casinos and stimulate economy. As for the karma of taking 'kiddie package'.. possibly. But we aren't Buddhas so we can only speculate.
Serious offenses like abortion, killing children will lead to short life span according to sutras. (See: The Dharani Sutra of the Buddha on Longevity, The Extinction of Offences And the Protection of Young Children) So if young children who are still ignorant become suicidal, the CEO is somewhat responsible for it.Originally posted by onceinabluemoon:Does Buddhism say anything abut doing something so harmful to innocent children that your life is at stake?
This is the first time that I have ever heard of Buddhist teaching saying that doing certain things will lead to a short life-span... thanks.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Serious offenses like abortion, killing children will lead to short life span according to sutras. (See: The Dharani Sutra of the Buddha on Longevity, The Extinction of Offences And the Protection of Young Children) So if young children who are still ignorant become suicidal, the CEO is somewhat responsible for it.
But I think better not speculate about the casino ceo's fate
Maybe what u reap is what u sow.....Originally posted by onceinabluemoon:This is the first time that I have ever heard of Buddhist teaching saying that doing certain things will lead to a short life-span... thanks.