Have you just forgotten that posting suicidal ideas is forbidden in this forum?Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Then chopping off of head should put a stop to all desires permenantly.
It may not be suicidal but muderous intent, however, I am telling the easiest answer to the problem without considering the consequences. This is my most basic interpretation of zen no-intent.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Have you just forgotten that posting suicidal ideas is forbidden in this forum?![]()
You already said murderous intent, therefore it cannot possibly be no-intent.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:It may not be suicidal but muderous intent, however, I am telling the easiest answer to the problem without considering the consequences. This is my most basic interpretation of zen no-intent.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
You already said murderous [b]intent, therefore it cannot possibly be no-intent.
Zen didn't teach no-intent in this way, did it? Please quote what you read.[/b]
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:I thought you meant it in a suicidal way.. but anyway even it's murderous intention it's just as bad. Not allowed in this forum, and anyway it's illegal in any countries.Then why did you claim it was [b]suicidal intent in the first place?
I only offered the simplest answer to the problem. Tell me what do you think with? And how does it work?[/b][/b]
....When the mindÂ’s knowing presence fully absorbs the repulsiveness, internalizing the feeling of revulsion, a profound realization suddenly occurs: The mind itself produces feelings of revulsion, the mind itself produces feelings of attraction; the mind alone creates ugliness and the mind alone creates beauty.see: http://buddhism.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=221617&page=1
These qualities do not really exist in the external physical world. The mind merely projects these attributes onto the objects it perceives and then deceives itself into believing that they are beautiful or ugly, attractive or repulsive. In truth, the mind paints elaborate pictures all the time—pictures of oneself and pictures of the external world. It then falls for its own mental imagery, believing it to be real.
At this point the meditator understands the truth with absolute certainty: The mind itself generates repulsion and attraction. The previous focus of the investigation—the pile of flesh and blood and bones—has no inherent repulsiveness whatsoever. Intrinsically, the human body is neither disgusting nor pleasing. Instead, it is the mind that conjures up these feelings and then projects them on the images that are in front of us. Once wisdom penetrates this deception with absolute clarity, the mind immediately relinquishes all external perceptions of beauty and ugliness, and turns inward to concentrate on the source of such notions. The mind itself is the perpetrator and the victim of these deceptions; the deceiver and the deceived.
Only the mind, and nothing else, paints pictures of beauty and ugliness. So the asubha images that the meditator has been focusing on as separate and external objects, are absorbed into the mind where they merge with the revulsion created by the mind. Both are, in fact, one and the same thing. When this realization occurs, the mind lets go of external images, lets go of external forms, and in doing so lets go of sexual attraction.
Sexual attraction is rooted in perceptions of the human body. When the real basis of these perceptions is exposed, it completely undermines their validity; and the external, as we know it, collapses and our attachment to it ceases of its own accord. The defiling influence of sexual attraction—which has ridden roughshod over the mind since time immemorial, luring the mind to grasp at birth and so experience death continuously for eons—this insidious craving is now powerless. The mind has now passed beyond its influence: It is now free.... ~ Ajahn Maha Boowa, an Arhat
Then what is the root of the mind? Thoughts or the brain?Originally posted by An Eternal Now: