ok ok, now i feel that im really lagging behind
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everyone tell me all that you know. i demand to be enlightened now.
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Go to sleep , you will feel better tomorrow.
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Originally posted by Cenarious:
i demand to be enlightened now.
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Knowing isn't enough and sometimes useless to know too much. Practise is most important.
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how to practise? and reply my pmOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:Knowing isn't enough and sometimes useless to know too much. Practise is most important. -
Teacher chen and lzls already elaborated a lot. Next time, bring a pen and paper and note down what they say so you will not forget. Also practising mindfulness is very simple yet not so simple. You already know how to practise but it is difficult to maintain mindfulness all the time so it is not so simple. One needs the right effort to practise it consistently and also do meditation to gain strength. Secondly it'll be good if you can practise meditation. Do you practise anapanasati (mindfulness of breathing)? Also if you really have doubts or questions about practise then give lzls a call. I sometimes do.Originally posted by Cenarious:how to practise? and reply my pm -
ok. u r enlightened. now go sleep.Originally posted by Cenarious:everyone tell me all that you know. i demand to be enlightened now. -
they are trying to lead me into nothing! i want supernatural powers and past lives! i want to fly about and split my body! i want to read and control ppls minds! i want to be omnipotent!Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Teacher chen and lzls already elaborated a lot. Next time, bring a pen and paper and note down what they say so you will not forget. Also practising mindfulness is very simple yet not so simple. You already know how to practise but it is difficult to maintain mindfulness all the time so it is not so simple. One needs the right effort to practise it consistently and also do meditation to gain strength. Secondly it'll be good if you can practise meditation. Do you practise anapanasati (mindfulness of breathing)? Also if you really have doubts or questions about practise then give lzls a call. I sometimes do.
but i dont want crappy powers from other spirits. i want the ultimate. i want to be God. -
Originally posted by Cenarious:they are trying to lead me into nothing! i want supernatural powers and past lives! i want to fly about and split my body! i want to read and control ppls minds! i want to be omnipotent!
but i dont want crappy powers from other spirits. i want the ultimate. i want to be God.
Read and mind controlling IS possible
See past lifes IS possible and levitate(float in mid air)
Split body and fly? Hmm...heard of it in books...so...
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you sure theres mind reading and controlling? i dont want hypnosis. i want like you plug a wire into their brain and you control them directly. like how you control video game characters.Originally posted by maggot:
Read and mind controlling IS possible
See past lifes IS possible and levitate(float in mid air)
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These skills are used for KILLINGOriginally posted by Cenarious:you sure theres mind reading and controlling? i dont want hypnosis. i want like you plug a wire into their brain and you control them directly. like how you control video game characters.
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For what? You think remembering past life is very fun? I already said it can be traumatic and horrendousOriginally posted by Cenarious:they are trying to lead me into nothing! i want supernatural powers and past lives! i want to fly about and split my body! i want to read and control ppls minds! i want to be omnipotent!
but i dont want crappy powers from other spirits. i want the ultimate. i want to be God. Anyway gaining powers also need certain level of maturity and wisdom.. Not gaining powers for silly and childish purposes. A true practitioner uses his spiritual powers for self-cultivation and as a skillful means to lead sentient beings to enlightenment. It is being used out of pure bodhicitta, not the egoic, sentient mind.
Oh and I forgot to mention... these supernatural powers come from the nothingness of Tao.
The DAO that can be expressed
is not the eternal DAO.
The name that can be named
is not the eternal name.
“Non-existence” I call the beginning of Heaven and Earth.
“Existence” I call the mother of individual beings.
Therefore does the direction towards non-existence
lead to the sight of the miraculous essence,
the direction towards existence
to the sight of spatial limitations.
Both are one in origin
and different only in name.
In its unity it is called the secret.
The secretÂ’s still deeper secret
is the gateway through which all miracles emerge.
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Remember everything you do results in karma.Originally posted by Cenarious:you sure theres mind reading and controlling? i dont want hypnosis. i want like you plug a wire into their brain and you control them directly. like how you control video game characters. -
i also want to be able to create tsunamis and tornadoes.
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You're a sadist?Originally posted by Cenarious:i also want to be able to create tsunamis and tornadoes.
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Let's hope no one does thatOriginally posted by Cenarious:i also want to be able to create tsunamis and tornadoes. -
not that i'll use them for bad purposes. i'll use them to protect singapore and other innocent countries being invaded.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:You're a sadist?
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Originally posted by Cenarious:not that i'll use them for bad purposes. i'll use them to protect singapore and other innocent countries being invaded.
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Frankly speaking i think you see too much tv show . And besides , even if you were given those powers , i doubt you know when or how to use them appropriately . Powers are like money , the more desperate you are for getting them , the easier corrupted you may get . Improper use of them may cause more trouble to pple then is beneficial to you , ever heard of the saying " a contented person is a happy person " , a person who is never satisfied will never be happy for long . Quit hankering after so called supernatural powers as it may not be a good thing to have them . So what if you can see pples or even your own past life ? What can you do even if you were to know ? Sometimes ignorance is bliss as knowing too much may bring you unwanted " burden " or even trauma . Why do you want to control pple ? This alone shows that you're really interested into buddhism but rather is to get powers to show off or even getting revenge . I suggest you try to get a peacefull and quiet mind before " jumping " into any religion to get any so called " powers " that you heard of in tv or anywhere .
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it's ok, i just want a taste of them and i'll get bored of them very easily.Originally posted by TWE:Frankly speaking i think you see too much tv show . And besides , even if you were given those powers , i doubt you know when or how to use them appropriately . Powers are like money , the more desperate you are for getting them , the easier corrupted you may get . Improper use of them may cause more trouble to pple then is beneficial to you , ever heard of the saying " a contented person is a happy person " , a person who is never satisfied will never be happy for long . Quit hankering after so called supernatural powers as it may not be a good thing to have them . So what if you can see pples or even your own past life ? What can you do even if you were to know ? Sometimes ignorance is bliss as knowing too much may bring you unwanted " burden " or even trauma . Why do you want to control pple ? This alone shows that you're really interested into buddhism but rather is to get powers to show off or even getting revenge . I suggest you try to get a peacefull and quiet mind before " jumping " into any religion to get any so called " powers " that you heard of in tv or anywhere . -
Then the more not worth the effort. In Buddhism we do not purposely cultivate special yogic techniques just to gain supernatural powers. Buddha saw it as purposeless. We should not cultivate the externalists' way, but the Buddhist way.Originally posted by Cenarious:it's ok, i just want a taste of them and i'll get bored of them very easily.http://www.angelfire.com/realm/bodhisattva/siddhi.html
One day the Buddha met an ascetic who sat by the bank of a river. This ascetic had practised austerities for 25 years. The Buddha asked him what he had received for all his labor. The ascetic proudly replied that, now at last, he could cross the river by walking on the water. The Buddha pointed out that this gain was insignificant for all the years of labor, since he could cross the river using a ferry for one penny!http://web.ukonline.co.uk/buddhism/tinhla01.htm
Anyway you mentioned omnipotent. Not anyone, even the Buddha, is omnipotent. This is because the Buddha cannot simply just interfere with our karma and grant us enlightenment. If they are able to, then all sentient beings would be enlightened by now. They can only teach, and guide us.
It must, however, be understood that the Buddha did not consider every trance to be necessarily good, for it must aim at the right end. He, however, realised that there were those who devoted to yogic exercises to acquire supernatural powers. So the Buddha refined the practice by telling them that even such powers could be acquired only through the practice of righteouaness and wisdom. ( Akankheyya Sutta, S. B. E. Vol. XI, ) Acquisition of supernatural powers does not confer any spiritual advantage. It was for this reason that the Buddha forbade his disciples to work miracles for display.
But omniscience is possible. It is through chan2 ding4. Sort of like entering the 10th dimension where everything can be accessed.
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Then the more not worth the effort. In Buddhism we do not purposely cultivate special yogic techniques just to gain supernatural powers. Buddha saw it as purposeless. We should not cultivate the externalists' way, but the Buddhist way.
oh well, every other thing in life is also purposeless.Anyway you mentioned omnipotent. Not anyone, even the Buddha, is omnipotent. This is because the Buddha cannot simply just interfere with our karma and grant us enlightenment. If they are able to, then all sentient beings would be enlightened by now. They can only teach, and guide us.
pseudo-omnipotence is enough.
But omniscience is possible. It is through chan2 ding4. Sort of like entering the 10th dimension where everything can be accessed. Wink
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Those powers are only used to fool the weak minded.
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There is no such thing as just to have a taste of them so i take it as you are just curious over how it feels to have those powers , when you have some powers , you will always feel tempted to use them every now and then . Haste makes waste , the more eager you are to attain enlightenment , the further you are away from it . i recomend you to study some basic teachings of buddhism or even tao te jing if you want , then spend some time to think about what it actually means and how to apply it into your everyday life rather then just to know those teachings and preach ard like some learned pple or even jump into deeper teachings like sutras , etc without getting a proper foundations for it as you may misintepret the actuall meaning of it .