Feeling guilty eating delicacies?
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They must be quite sadist, or they have Schizoids Personality Disorder.Originally posted by Isis:EHHHHHHH...
my fren's frens.. say after watching the video on cruel-animals killings.. they find the foods more delicious...
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Isn't slaughter a part of food preparation? I see AEN has a prejudice against those with SPD.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:They must be quite sadist, or they have Schizoids Personality Disorder. -
Slaughter is a violent and cruel part of food preperation. I will not say anything more otherwise I will be a hypocrite as I am not a vegetarian.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Isn't slaughter a part of food preparation? I see AEN has a prejudice against those with SPD. -
I think your friends must be quite young... Young people generally like to act tough and nonchalant. When I was younger I used to demonstrate my "bravado" by using my hands to twist the heads off lizards....Originally posted by Isis:EHHHHHHH...
my fren's frens.. say after watching the video on cruel-animals killings.. they find the foods more delicious... ...
don't know how they can stomach such things lol
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mm they were 21 and surely above 18 when they say this...
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perhaps they were joking lah and i don't think they suffering from some mental illness.. Don't assume lol...
anyway, when we eat these meats and savouring them. We fail to see and understand the tremendous suffering that these animals went through.
A pity is at all, farmers should treat animals with some respect when even rearing them. If i remember correctly, "mad cow" diease occured becos they fed cow with rotten and sicked animals internal organs. -
Originally posted by Isis:
I mentioned schizoid because of someone around....
perhaps they were joking lah and i don't think they suffering from some mental illness.. Don't assume lol...
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whose that person?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:I mentioned schizoid because of someone around.... -
It is rather funny how people perceive things around them. Let's look at things logically.
The meat we eat are called chicken, beef, pork, mutton, vension and etc. The common thing about them is that they are all meat from slaughtered animals. So, if life is taken away from a sentient being, what is left is a corpse. So all these chicken, beef, pork, mutton, vension and etc are nothing but corpses' meat. But of course corpse meat don't sound so good, beef sound tastier. We can't say we eat the flesh of other animals because to eat the flesh, we will have to bite a chunk of meat off the animal while it is still alive . Only carnivores eat the flesh of other animals.
The architecture of our human body is not designed to comsume meat. We do not have canine teeth like tigers or lions to tear meat. Instead we have molars to grin nuts and grains. Our intestinal track are long, which is designed for the digestion and absorption of fibers and minerals from plants, fruits and herbs. Carnivore's intestinal tracks are short which aid in protein digestions. This explain why our feces are dark in color when little fibre is consumed or when someone doesn't have bowel moment for a long time one will need to have fibre intake to aid bowel moment.
One last thing to note is that when the animals are slaughtered, they released a huge amount of toxin due to their feelings of fear and struggling. We consumed that toxin too.
Eating habit is a personal preference. Alot of people enjoy eating meat. I like to eat meat too but seeing it has more disadvantages than advantages, I am cutting down on corpse meat intake too.
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Many humans also got eaten by animals, like python snakes, sharks, crocodiles. We eat animals, animals eat us back. Tit for tat.
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Exactly. Humans are not made for eating meat.Originally posted by oldkid:It is rather funny how people perceive things around them. Let's look at things logically.
The meat we eat are called chicken, beef, pork, mutton, vension and etc. The common thing about them is that they are all meat from slaughtered animals. So, if life is taken away from a sentient being, what is left is a corpse. So all these chicken, beef, pork, mutton, vension and etc are nothing but corpses' meat. But of course corpse meat don't sound so good, beef sound tastier. We can't say we eat the flesh of other animals because to eat the flesh, we will have to bite a chunk of meat off the animal while it is still alive . Only carnivores eat the flesh of other animals.
The architecture of our human body is not designed to comsume meat. We do not have canine teeth like tigers or lions to tear meat. Instead we have molars to grin nuts and grains. Our intestinal track are long, which is designed for the digestion and absorption of fibers and minerals from plants, fruits and herbs. Carnivore's intestinal tracks are short which aid in protein digestions. This explain why our feces are dark in color when little fibre is consumed or when someone doesn't have bowel moment for a long time one will need to have fibre intake to aid bowel moment.
One last thing to note is that when the animals are slaughtered, they released a huge amount of toxin due to their feelings of fear and struggling. We consumed that toxin too.
Eating habit is a personal preference. Alot of people enjoy eating meat. I like to eat meat too but seeing it has more disadvantages than advantages, I am cutting down on corpse meat intake too.
Cherrio
Unfortunately, human greed & gluttony knows no bounds. Humans eat up everything that is living.
Thats why there are so many cases of cancer, heart disease, etc in human beings. That is nature's way of telling us humans to revert back to our original non-meat diet. But nature's message is not yet heeded by humans. It may take several more generations. -
I see oldkid is indeed a bit lost in anatomy especially in orthodontal areas. Homo sapiens do indeed have a pair of canines on each side.Originally posted by oldkid:It is rather funny how people perceive things around them. Let's look at things logically.
The meat we eat are called chicken, beef, pork, mutton, vension and etc. The common thing about them is that they are all meat from slaughtered animals. So, if life is taken away from a sentient being, what is left is a corpse. So all these chicken, beef, pork, mutton, vension and etc are nothing but corpses' meat. But of course corpse meat don't sound so good, beef sound tastier. We can't say we eat the flesh of other animals because to eat the flesh, we will have to bite a chunk of meat off the animal while it is still alive . Only carnivores eat the flesh of other animals.
The architecture of our human body is not designed to comsume meat. We do not have canine teeth like tigers or lions to tear meat. Instead we have molars to grin nuts and grains. Our intestinal track are long, which is designed for the digestion and absorption of fibers and minerals from plants, fruits and herbs. Carnivore's intestinal tracks are short which aid in protein digestions. This explain why our feces are dark in color when little fibre is consumed or when someone doesn't have bowel moment for a long time one will need to have fibre intake to aid bowel moment.
One last thing to note is that when the animals are slaughtered, they released a huge amount of toxin due to their feelings of fear and struggling. We consumed that toxin too.
Eating habit is a personal preference. Alot of people enjoy eating meat. I like to eat meat too but seeing it has more disadvantages than advantages, I am cutting down on corpse meat intake too.
Cherrio
We are omnivores which are very adaptable to many kinds of enviroment. Note that in cold areas, humans tend to have a higher intake of meat rather than vegetables due to the reason that calorie consumption is higher. Hence Eskimos surivive on an almost all meat diet.
Next, in terms of muscle replacement, active athletes tend to have higher wear and tear and animal proteins are faster to digest than plant protein. However, in terms of amino acids, plants have more but are harder to digest.
Hence, I won't exactly say that being a full-vegetarian is being the best in terms of health but having a limited meat intake is indeed important for good health. -
*Bites An Enternal Now*Originally posted by An Eternal Now:I mentioned schizoid because of someone around.... 
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That canine teeth is too small to be considered as a canine. An actual canine tooth is like a fang. Easiest to see one is the common household cat or dog. If your teeth is that long, yup, you have canine.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:I see oldkid is indeed a bit lost in anatomy especially in orthodontal areas. Homo sapiens do indeed have a pair of canines on each side.
We are omnivores which are very adaptable to many kinds of enviroment. Note that in cold areas, humans tend to have a higher intake of meat rather than vegetables due to the reason that calorie consumption is higher. Hence Eskimos surivive on an almost all meat diet.
Next, in terms of muscle replacement, active athletes tend to have higher wear and tear and animal proteins are faster to digest than plant protein. However, in terms of amino acids, plants have more but are harder to digest.
Hence, I won't exactly say that being a full-vegetarian is being the best in terms of health but having a limited meat intake is indeed important for good health.
Eskimos survived on meat most of the time cause where in the world do they find vegetables? Same as the monks in Tibet, they consume meat because the climate is insuitable for growing vegetables and all they have are goats and cows.
I agree athletes need proteins from meat to recover as protein from meat is somehow better than from beans/nuts.
I think the problem here is choice. The above 2 cases are people with little or no choice. By choice, people who are not vegetarians will definitely consume meat. However I do meet people in study group who cannot take full vegetarian meal. They tend to have rashes or vomit/diahorrea seriously. But other than these extreme cases, it is still much healthier to be a vegeterian. Better still, consume only organic vegeterain food. I had consumed before a full 8 days organic vegetarian food during Refuge Taking in Taiwan. Wah.... the food taste better than those meals I had in S'pore with meat...
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Tell that to those who can't take seaweed due to allergy and see what happens to their iodine deficency. There are 101 cases out there which causes a person to take meat for their nutrietional diet and we are just discussing about the obvious few. Hence I believe that meat is a essential part of the human diet but should be taken sparingly.Originally posted by oldkid:That canine teeth is too small to be considered as a canine. An actual canine tooth is like a fang. Easiest to see one is the common household cat or dog. If your teeth is that long, yup, you have canine.
Eskimos survived on meat most of the time cause where in the world do they find vegetables? Same as the monks in Tibet, they consume meat because the climate is insuitable for growing vegetables and all they have are goats and cows.
I agree athletes need proteins from meat to recover as protein from meat is somehow better than from beans/nuts.
I think the problem here is choice. The above 2 cases are people with little or no choice. By choice, people who are not vegetarians will definitely consume meat. However I do meet people in study group who cannot take full vegetarian meal. They tend to have rashes or vomit/diahorrea seriously. But other than these extreme cases, it is still much healthier to be a vegeterian. Better still, consume only organic vegeterain food. I had consumed before a full 8 days organic vegetarian food during Refuge Taking in Taiwan. Wah.... the food taste better than those meals I had in S'pore with meat...
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It is not necessary to eat meat for protein if you know how to cook a wide range of vegetarian servings that can replace the meat's protein.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Tell that to those who can't take seaweed due to allergy and see what happens to their iodine deficency. There are 101 cases out there which causes a person to take meat for their nutrietional diet and we are just discussing about the obvious few. Hence I believe that meat is a essential part of the human diet but should be taken sparingly.
I have read before, that the amount of protein that people usually take by eating meat is unnecessary. There are a lot of plant products that provides the right amount for human. -
lol , i feel so guilty after reading this thread. but still , i confirm forget this when i see chilli crab. dam...
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after going through this thread i've started to take vegetarian from today
yesterday i bought some vegetables to last me for at least 4days.
i think if i ever come across any vegetarian recipe, i'll post them in the forum so that anyone can learn to make some nice healthy balanced vegetarian meal. -
I can't believe how ignorant is AEN. Firstly, yes, vegetables have all the proteins required by humans but they take a very long time to be absorbed by the human body.(nearly double to triple the time as compared to meat) However, if the body is heavily used or badly injured, proteins are needed at a much quicker pace then what pure vegetarian food can provide. If the proteins are not provided in time, then I would advise the patient or athlete to be ready for some very bad consequences.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:It is not necessary to eat meat for protein if you know how to cook a wide range of vegetarian servings that can replace the meat's protein.
I have read before, that the amount of protein that people usually take by eating meat is unnecessary. There are a lot of plant products that provides the right amount for human. -
There are a lot of high protein sources of vegetarian food that is just as good as meat. I have never heard about quicker pace. But I have never heard of monks having trouble healing, etc, due to their vegetarian diet. Lots of monks live till old age, many are over 100, some like the famous Zen Master Hsu Yun of modern times, who lived till 120 years old. Plus if you become vegetarian you take in a lot less unhealthy stuff. And have less chance of heart attack, etc.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:I can't believe how ignorant is AEN. Firstly, yes, vegetables have all the proteins required by humans but they take a very long time to be absorbed by the human body.(nearly double to triple the time as compared to meat) However, if the body is heavily used or badly injured, proteins are needed at a much quicker pace then what pure vegetarian food can provide. If the proteins are not provided in time, then I would advise the patient or athlete to be ready for some very bad consequences. -
yes, organic food product is the best. No chemicals.
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I wonder where can we buy organic crabs. Organic chilly crabs and organic drunken prawns. Crabs and prawns are my favourite meat.Originally posted by norm:yes, organic food product is the best. No chemicals.
Many people also like to eat fish, but scientists predict that fish in oceans will be fished to extinction by 2050 if humans continue to fish them. I see so many ocean fishes end up in supermarkets that are still left unsold at the end of the day, many precious lives wasted. -
It is a matter of choice.
To those who will convert to become vegetarian, I congrats you all and rejoice with you.
To those who feel guilty, I'm happy and rejoice for you all because it is a good start and it showed that you all do have compassion for other sentient beings.
To those who still feel that meat is a must in one's daily diet for whatever reasons, may you one day be able to overcome that obstacle.
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What about In Vitro Meat a.k.a. laboratory-grown meat? Is this allowed under Buddhism?
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Perhaps you can tell us more about how it works?Originally posted by Beyond Religion:What about In Vitro Meat a.k.a. laboratory-grown meat? Is this allowed under Buddhism?
I think if it does not take away other animals life then it would of course be better.
I doubt whether it will replace real meat any time soon...