rebirth and original face

• Eric Cartman

  27 Jan 07, 21:45

  dont they contradict each other?
• An Eternal Now

  27 Jan 07, 23:04

  Original nature simply means your buddha nature.
  
  Rebirth means consciousness reborns.
  
  Doesn't contradict.
  
  Life (Self) is nothing other than the continuous flow of the Now Moment.
  The Now Moment ceases as it arises. This moment must completely ceased
  and serves as the CAUSE for the next moment to arise.
  Therefore Self is a process of series Self1, Self2, Self3, Self4, Self5, Self6...etc
  A fixed entity 'Self' does not exist, what really exists is a momentary Self.
  Under deep meditation, one is able to observe and sense the karmic and mental factors from moment to moment,
  it is these factors that are succeeded from moment to moment and life and life but not a fixed entity.
  When the karmic and mental factors subsides, it is known as "The True and Only (and Inherently egoless) Conscious Light (Itself)".
  
  - Thusness
  
  Conscious Light is original face. In Tibetan terms it is known as Clear Light, or just Luminosity. In Pure Land terms it is Ji4 Guang1.
• Eric Cartman

  27 Jan 07, 23:27

  then why is it called face and not nature
• An Eternal Now

  27 Jan 07, 23:34

  Originally posted by Eric Cartman:

  then why is it called face and not nature

  'Original Face' just means originally, it is actually like that. Or saying.. beyond our ego or deluded ideas of self, what is our true face or true self. Of course when we say true self in Buddhism we have to be careful to add that 'manifestation is source' otherwise it becomes Hindu atman.