Twisted Emotion ( Homosexuality ) a continuation
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Several months back i posted on the Twisted Emotion ,now i will continue on this post to open many forummer that homosexuality must be understood ,resolved (if possible) and not being frown upon and openly into hurting of human lives .
Our world is interdependent on each other , the one we righteous hurt and maimed in life ,will come back again in future life as colleagues and even family member ,that will continue cycles of suffering by seeding the first enmity in our past lives
Throughout our many lifetime in love relationship , our past affinity with many partners have resurfaced and they appear as opposite sex or as the same sexes .
Our carnal desires is the root cause of this .In Buddhism ,we do not condemn homosexual people or those with homosexual tendency ,as We are not judge upon .
The law of cause and effect is universal and have no discrimination towards anyone .
Though homosexual feeling for someone is hard to root ,there are ways to overcome it
1.understand the source (the person one feel attacted to )
2.deep understanding and by understanding the truth of our many rebirth since as human beings
3.Wishing the other person well and happy
4.let go and pursue higher spiritual living in life
This is a more positive solution than suppressing of thoughts ,which will erupt when the mind cannot take it ,and harms other fellow human beings happiness causing lifetime regret and remorse
The ancient indian society is a good example of such complicated issue .the issue of transvestite in a certain religion , Worship of Masculine Deities and demigod .
As a Buddhist and I do not feel the action to condemn homosexual behaviour
as we are living in this planet earth .Encompassing other is better than discrimination of other ppl
My stand towards homosexual people is everyone is born equal ,but of different family background (cold father -son relationship ,broken families ,incessant family quarrels) if we willing to work hard to overcome emotional difficulties ,we find that is a passing phase .
Of course , Homosexual people can choose their lifestyle , and even if they wont we do not judge them upon because our normal love for the other partner is also a result of many lifetime of
1.engaging in carnal desire
2.wish for procreation, or
3.possession of opposite sex
becos discrimination is the "dirt" in our mind , whether we like it or not
With Sincerity ,
Bohiruci -
Well said.Originally posted by bohiruci:Several months back i posted on the Twisted Emotion ,now i will continue on this post to open many forummer that homosexuality must be understood ,resolved (if possible) and not being frown upon and openly into hurting of human lives .
Our world is interdependent on each other , the one we righteous hurt and maimed in life ,will come back again in future life as colleagues and even family member ,that will continue cycles of suffering by seeding the first enmity in our past lives
Throughout our many lifetime in love relationship , our past affinity with many partners have resurfaced and they appear as opposite sex or as the same sexes .
Our carnal desires is the root cause of this .In Buddhism ,we do not condemn homosexual people or those with homosexual tendency ,as We are not judge upon .
The law of cause and effect is universal and have no discrimination towards anyone .
Though homosexual feeling for someone is hard to root ,there are ways to overcome it
1.understand the source (the person one feel attacted to )
2.deep understanding and by understanding the truth of our many rebirth since as human beings
3.Wishing the other person well and happy
4.let go and pursue higher spiritual living in life
This is a more positive solution than suppressing of thoughts ,which will erupt when the mind cannot take it ,and harms other fellow human beings happiness causing lifetime regret and remorse
The ancient indian society is a good example of such complicated issue .the issue of transvestite in a certain religion , Worship of Masculine Deities and demigod .
As a Buddhist and I do not feel the action to condemn homosexual behaviour
as we are living in this planet earth .Encompassing other is better than discrimination of other ppl
My stand towards homosexual people is everyone is born equal ,but of different family background (cold father -son relationship ,broken families ,incessant family quarrels) if we willing to work hard to overcome emotional difficulties ,we find that is a passing phase .
Of course , Homosexual people can choose their lifestyle , and even if they wont we do not judge them upon because our normal love for the other partner is also a result of many lifetime of
1.engaging in carnal desire
2.wish for procreation, or
3.possession of opposite sex
becos discrimination is the "dirt" in our mind , whether we like it or not
With Sincerity ,
Bohiruci
I have a question: Like Bohiruci, I am a Buddhist and I do not discriminate against homosexual people or homosexual lifestyle...... BUT I will be very displeased if my son turn out to be one. Does this thought count as a "dirt" in my mind? -
wouldnt consider this as "dirt", rather it is a "fixation" how you react to the karma that is unraveling before you, whether this feels good or bad is irrelevant because both are considered as a form of suffering because you are unliberated
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Dear Beyond Religion ,Originally posted by Beyond Religion:Well said.
I have a question: Like Bohiruci, I am a Buddhist and I do not discriminate against homosexual people or homosexual lifestyle...... BUT I will be very displeased if my son turn out to be one. Does this thought count as a "dirt" in my mind?
I thinking over the question that you imposed , would like to give my views (personal views) on this .
As a father of a child, we naturally want our children to grow up happily and live successful life .Thats the goal of every parents.But being a good parents also not a easy one .How not to get angry after a hard day's work and see children fighting each other angrily over toys.
the Buddhist teaching of equanmity is importance .
If we know our children have a certain kind of behaviour , we can counsel him ,but we do not use the cane , for this is negative education and using fear will never work .
We can tell him right and wrong .but we know the law of karma and countless rebirth in work .we just try our best .
I not here to condemn homosexuality ,but I hope as Parents ,one must put themselves in the heart of a timid children .the more harsh treatment ,the more the children will rebel, we may fail in our approach of "bring them to a happy life "
eventually our life is limited in this world .we shouldnt be attached to force him down to an unhappy career path or even love life he should take .Because by forcing him , we are only giving him more unhappiness
My Shifu told me this , when u cane a child angrily , do you do it for his own good , and you will resume back to your usual loving character to your children ?
most of us get too carried away punishing children ,end up they become resentful and seek rebellion
I have no right to interfere in anyone family affairs ,but I sincerely would like to ask everyone , be it you are now father or u are still a child , to have a forgiving heart for things that happen .Life is always never rosy throughout ,
prick and thorns on the path make us grow stronger and setback matures us
for everyone info , I was not born in a happy family , since young I have alot of unhappiness
Buddhism taught me to forgive my parents for their harsh education of love
I hope that answer your question
Frankly this is the first time I talking abt family matters in a Buddhism forum
I must say this will be an imprint in my mind for years to come -
Ven Thich nhat hanh one dharma talks touches me deeply ,in fact I cried after hearing one of the story
It about in France Plum Village ,one of a young man was unhappy with a rough father
He came to Thich Nhat Hanh .
Thich Nhat hanh told him to meditate and followed Thich instruction to think of his father when his father is 5 yrs old , how his father is being bullied by bullies
when the young man comes out of the meditation , He is filled with tears , he knows his father love him as a child , but the childhood experience of most father was unpleasant
I can relate very well to this story ,as my father was very fierce ,becos when he was 10 something ,he was forced to leave home and work as a sailor for 19 over years and to earn as much for his many siblings (about 6 ,7 of them )
I always tends to understand him .
Constant Fighting and quarrelling in the family have no good result , it only deepen the hatred and the hurt in the family .
when there is a unhappiness in life , there is always a past cause that created today's unhappiness
Another point is I feel that people who contracted AIDS are being outcasted in the Communicable Disease Centre .It such a sad thing they are dying in isolation without love from their beloved ones
I would like to transfer my merits to those who suffered from HIV , may they be reborn in Western Paradise