Retribution.

• Darkness_hacker99

  31 May 07, 03:14

  Hi.. Me first time posting in this forum.. I would like to understand about Retribution.
  
  Can someone explain to me what is Retribution all about?
  
  Mod if my topic is inapropriate, please delete/close. Thanks.
• Isis

  31 May 07, 03:44

  I wonder why u think this topic is not suitable for discussion...
  
  Anyway, we usually associate the term "retribution" as a negative attribute which we hope that the person will have misfortunate befalls onto him as it is right and so we think. However, by karma, if you have aversion, hatred, selfish thought/feeling for him or delighting in his misfortunate, you are also creating bad karma for yourself.
  
  Well if you ask me about retribution. By karma, there person will reap what he has sowed. If he sowed bad seeds, he will reap bad harvest but it also depends on whether he knew his mistakes and repented. The anology is akin of planting a seeds but if he hasn't provide the condition for the seeds to grow. He will not reap the bad harvest or lessen the negative effects.
  
  Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love, this is the eternal rule - Buddha
  
  my 2 Nickle of thought
• Darkness_hacker99

  31 May 07, 04:08

  Thanks Isis for the explaination.
  
  I was selfish last time, I realize my mistake and do many good things to correct my mistake..
  
  But why do I still feel the effects? How to I reduce the effect?
  
  I agree with this statement "What you will reap is what you has sowed".
  
  I feel that my present life is the effects of what I have done in the past.
• coolbluewater

  31 May 07, 10:04

  Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:

  Thanks Isis for the explaination.
  
  I was selfish last time, I realize my mistake and do many good things to correct my mistake..
  
  But why do I still feel the effects? How to I reduce the effect?
  
  I agree with this statement "What you will reap is what you has sowed".
  
  I feel that my present life is the effects of what I have done in the past.

  There's a saying, that you need to do 10 rights to undo 1 wrong. Actually, it's good that you are repenting towards the wrong you are donig. That's one step. Repent towards the wrongs that you've done in this life, and previous lives.
  
  Doing good doesn't contra off the bad that you have done, it merely dilute the effect. Don't be too harsh on yourself. Just continue to do good and repent towards the mistakes, the effect will soon go away.
• Darkness_hacker99

  31 May 07, 14:43

  Originally posted by coolbluewater:

  There's a saying, that you need to do 10 rights to undo 1 wrong. Actually, it's good that you are repenting towards the wrong you are donig. That's one step. Repent towards the wrongs that you've done in this life, and previous lives.
  
  Doing good doesn't contra off the bad that you have done, it merely dilute the effect. Don't be too harsh on yourself. Just continue to do good and repent towards the mistakes, the effect will soon go away.

  thx..
• Isis

  31 May 07, 17:49

  Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:

  Thanks Isis for the explaination.
  
  I was selfish last time, I realize my mistake and do many good things to correct my mistake..
  
  But why do I still feel the effects? How to I reduce the effect?
  
  I agree with this statement "What you will reap is what you has sowed".
  
  I feel that my present life is the effects of what I have done in the past.

  I feel that ur situation has actually improved when u had realised ur mistakes.
  Hinit > Take heed of the half-glass full and be glad in there. Share there joy with others.
  
  Btw, by karma, we can change situation by what we are doing NOW. The effect that u r feeling now it will go away soon as nothing in life is permanent.
  
  What kind of effects do u still feel and why ? Be more specific.
  
  
• bohiruci

  31 May 07, 19:42

  Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:

  thx..

  Dear Darkness_hacker99
  
  to realise one selfish thought is better than to mire deep in self-conceited thoughts
  
  while one feels guilty of selfish thoughts, it good to just let thing go and reestablish oneself
  
  start from mending relationship with whom ones hurt and make amends to others who was hurt in a way
  
  Indeed you are not bounded from the agony of realising ur past foolishness of selfishness .You are now liberated
  
  With Sincerity,
  bohiruci
  
  
• Usex

  31 May 07, 19:49

  It's all emptiness
• xShevchenkox

  31 May 07, 19:57

  Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:

  Thanks Isis for the explaination.
  
  I was selfish last time, I realize my mistake and do many good things to correct my mistake..
  
  But why do I still feel the effects? How to I reduce the effect?
  
  I agree with this statement "What you will reap is what you has sowed".
  
  I feel that my present life is the effects of what I have done in the past.

  haha, dun wry much la..darkness..remember everyone sure will do mistakes de...as long as we change for the better and dun commit anymore liao..then is okie
  
  hmm, l feel that u are a good guy based on feel la..think even if u do mistakes...oso not those very grave one de la
• frederikan

  31 May 07, 19:58

  Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:

  Hi.. Me first time posting in this forum.. I would like to understand about Retribution.
  
  Can someone explain to me what is Retribution all about?
  
  Mod if my topic is inapropriate, please delete/close. Thanks.

  what comes around goes around.
  
  all religion preaches that.
  even superstitions..
• An Eternal Now

  31 May 07, 19:59

  Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:

  Thanks Isis for the explaination.
  
  I was selfish last time, I realize my mistake and do many good things to correct my mistake..
  
  But why do I still feel the effects? How to I reduce the effect?
  
  I agree with this statement "What you will reap is what you has sowed".
  
  I feel that my present life is the effects of what I have done in the past.

  I think repentance may help... do read: http://www.jenchen.org.sg/vol6no2c.htm
  
  Repentance is important but don't caught up by what happened. It's all just a part of the process of learning in life. You also have to try practising acceptance of things just as it is. The latest post by me on 'Dzogchen Practice in Everyday Life - His Holiness Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche' in Daily Buddhist Verses may help..
• bohiruci

  31 May 07, 20:08

  Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

  I think repentance may help... do read: http://www.jenchen.org.sg/vol6no2c.htm
  
  Repentance is important but don't caught up by what happened. It's all just a part of the process of learning in life. You also have to try practising acceptance of things just as it is. The latest post by me on 'Dzogchen Practice in Everyday Life - His Holiness Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche' in Daily Buddhist Verses may help..

  I suggest you print the Avalokiteshvara photo i posted in the forum and offer many joss stick and recite the repentance verse and
  
  reflect you are determine to change
  
  
• marcteng

  1 Jun 07, 15:07

  Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:

  Thanks Isis for the explaination.
  
  I was selfish last time, I realize my mistake and do many good things to correct my mistake..
  
  But why do I still feel the effects? How to I reduce the effect?
  
  I agree with this statement "What you will reap is what you has sowed".
  
  I feel that my present life is the effects of what I have done in the past.

  We will inherit bad and good kamma as long as we are still in this samsara whether in thought, speech and actions.
  
  The Buddha said, you can do a lot of good kamma to dilute the bad kamma, for eg a teaspoon of salt will not have any effect in a pool as compared a teaspoon of salt will have saltish water in a cup isn't it. same for bad kamma as well.
  
  You should not be circumstances of the fruit of your bad kamma, you should be positive, do good and strive for enlightenment. you should not be fatalistic ie accept your fate and blame on your past lives.
  
  
• Darkness_hacker99

  1 Jun 07, 15:10

  Thanks all for you help.
  
  I really appreciated that.
• sinweiy

  1 Jun 07, 17:21

  we may have create wrong action in the past, but we can still stop the conditions, in order to stop the effect.
  like u plant a seed on the ground, but by blocking the sunlight, and by not applying fertilizer, water to the seed, the seed would not grow into a tree.
  
  to "reduce" retribution, try avoid doing evil actions/karma, do good, and keep transfering the merits to others, especially our "deptors" rather than keep it for oneself. it will help a lot.
  for me, i transfer the merit of being a vegetarian to all sentient beings.
  non-killing or saving lifes creates the the most amount of merits. moreover you are transfering to ALL sentient beings, instead of just few deptors. Such selflessness multiples the amount of meirts/virtues.
  
  so avoid doing evil is like blocking the sunlight/soil/water to the seed. and doing good is like applying concrete onto the seed!
  
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