Originally posted by An Eternal Now:From the above case, it can be seen AEN is trying to trick us. Firstly, Buddhism doesn't have a control. Next, it is a religion according to human socialogical terms. Thus, it cannot be proven true or false.
In this case, Buddhism fulfills [b]ALL criteria of Scientific Method.[/b]
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Why not. It says 'whenever possible and proper', Buddhism also does that 'whenever possible and proper'.
From the above case, it can be seen AEN is trying to trick us. Firstly, Buddhism doesn't have a control.
Next, it is a religion according to human socialogical terms. Thus, it cannot be proven true or false.Buddhism does not worhip any higher beings, it is not a religion in many sense and definitions, though it is spiritual.
If you examine closely, you'll find more scientific evidence emerging, long after Sakyamuni Buddha preached. The sutras were passed down generation to generation for thousands of years, but Science only made breakthroughs in the last couple of hundreds of years.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:From the above case, it can be seen AEN is trying to trick us. Firstly, Buddhism doesn't have a control. Next, it is a religion according to human socialogical terms. Thus, it cannot be proven true or false.
coolbluewater coming to generalization again, science has been constantly making breakthroughs eons before Prince Siddatha gained enlightenment.Originally posted by coolbluewater:If you examine closely, you'll find more scientific evidence emerging, long after Sakyamuni Buddha preached. The sutras were passed down generation to generation for thousands of years, but Science only made breakthroughs in the last couple of hundreds of years.
Any experiment must have a control group to compare with, so it can be seen that Buddhism is unscientific.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Buddhism does not worhip any higher beings, it is not a religion in many sense and definitions, though it is spiritual.
Next, spiritual realities can be proven through one's practise.
Sometimes it is irrelevant to have control groups, but when it is possible and needed, there will be (as it said -- WHENEVER POSSIBLE AND PROPER). Meditation can be done with a control group as well. You can experiment meditation in different way and record your findings. Anyway if you're studying some meditators on the effects effects of meditation you will also need control grp.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Any experiment must have a control group to compare with, so it can be seen that Buddhism is unscientific.
Spiritual realm and reality are two different areas thus cannot be compared or composited.Spiritual realms (i.e causal, nondual) which isn't a 'realm' exactly, is a reality. They have correlates in four quadrants too. But in another way -- spiritual mysticism are even higher and all encompassing than lower holons i.e atoms, etc. And when you are talking about non-dual reality, nothing is not of non-dual nature. It is the ground reality, condition of all conditions. Just like nothing is not of the nature of impermanence, conditioned arisnig.
Hmmm, may I know what are the breakthroughs eons that were made before Prince Siddatha?Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:coolbluewater coming to generalization again, science has been constantly making breakthroughs eons before Prince Siddatha gained enlightenment.
Here's a simple one:Originally posted by coolbluewater:Hmmm, may I know what are the breakthroughs eons that were made before Prince Siddatha?
aiyo, simple query, simple answer.Originally posted by frederikan:do u consider budhism a religion?
True Buddhism is the "Dhamma"-teachings of Buddha.Going to temples,worshipping etc is not essential to be a true buddhist.Keeping the 5 basic precepts & walk the 8 foldpaths are things we do to make his teachings effective in day to day life.Originally posted by frederikan:do u consider budhism a religion?
Originally posted by neutral_onliner:But how do one inherit the characteristics of a good Buddhist if he/she is attached to the believe in GOD? Isn't that equivalent to the attachment to form?
True Buddhism is the "Dhamma"-teachings of Buddha.Going to temples,worshipping etc is not essential to be a true buddhist.Keeping the 5 basic precepts & walk the 8 foldpaths are things we do to make his teachings effective in day to day life.
the core of Buddhism is being open minded.never blind faith.Lord Buddha has always said not to believe even what he has preached merely BECAUSE he preached it without questioning.we are,as humans,capable of intelligent thinking.so why sacrifice that intelligence and give into blind faith? we must question and investigate about the world around us and be as realistic as possible
this is why Buddhism is not really a "religion".it's the philosophy of life and the logic behind it.You can possess the characteristics of a good Buddhist even though u may technically not even BE a Buddhist.for example,if a catholic lives according to the 5 precepts he will automatically inherit the characteristics of a Buddhist even though he believes in God.that's because Buddhism doesn't attach importance to whether or not one believes in Buddha (like the christians do since people who don't believe in God are thought to be non-religious) .[b]it's WHAT YOU DO that's important.
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