How did the Buddha define 'Sexual Misconduct'?
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last time no curtains and the buildings got holes de so daytime might be seen?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:An explanation of Loppon Namdrol in E-Sangha (http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/index.php?showtopic=5439&hl=) states:
It has to do with the fact that the anus and penis/vagina/urethra serve as organs of elimination; while the mouth is an organ of consuming.
Therefore, it is considered inappropriate for the mouth to touch the penis or vagina.
The anus is considered very unclean in general, and so it is considered to be an inappropriate orifice for sexual conduct.
I feel however the main intent behind the prohibition of sexual misconduct is non-harming.
Incidentally, according to Vasubandhu, if one does not observe the vow against intoxicating drinks, one also does not observe the vow against sexual misconduct, the latter being dependent on the former.
He also elaborated elsewhere: "The orifice thing has very much to do with notions of clean and unclean, and in a society where cholera and other fecally transmitted diseases were common, such prohibitions about mouth/genital sexual stimulation, and so on, make hygenic sense."
I'm not exactly sure of the reason for 'no daytime'.
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That's right. So Namdrol also said,Originally posted by hisoka:last time no curtains and the buildings got holes de so daytime might be seen?
The Abhidharmakoshabhasyam certainly qualifies as ancient [4th century CE].
In general, more important aspects of sexual misconduct are issues around are appropriate partners [no minors, spouses of others, and so on], and social decorum [no screwing in temples, in public, during the day when you can be seen] in a society that had very different standards of privacy then we do [read, not much privacy]. -
are we so ashamed about sex that we're unwilling to be seen doing that?Originally posted by hisoka:last time no curtains and the buildings got holes de so daytime might be seen? -
This is an interesting thread, and this precept is one which most people try to avoid. Save for another day to dwell .... but this one
Originally posted by 798:
Hahahah, you have not watch movies? When forbidden lovers meet, at some discreet, secret rendezvous, usually a deserted house or abandoned temple, what happens?
believe it or not, i once practise in temple at KL, i read this book, it stated dat,
having sex during thunder storm is consider as sexual misconduct too.
Passion rises, the ground swells, the heaven opens, the earth shakes, ...... the bra loosen, the pants drop, the windows flew shut, patter on roof, distant lightning, sky darkens ..... THUNDERSTORM. -
I am just wondering why there are so few Buddhist voices in the other forums where the Christians and Homos are battling for or against decriminalization of S377A! Are Buddhist not against all the impurities that are flooding in? Why is there an ex-bishop on that forum? Where are our Ven's? Maybe by the time we look out, the homos have taken over outside the temples already!
