Is Buddha tooth here the real McCoy?
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hi all,
I can share another personal story.
I have the honor of visiting the Sri Lanka Dalada Miligawa Tooth Relic temple last year and even entered the holy chamber to view the relic. This is a very rare honor considering that thousands of tourist do not have this privilege. Some people can wait all life to no avail.
I was standing at the bullet-proof gate and with all my heart I wanted a testament to my faith by having an audience with the tooth relic. Minutes later my wish was fulfilled; my bhante came out and led me in to the envy of the crowds of tourist. I went into the secured vault and before long, before me was the golden stupa housing the relic.
In front of the stupa i made 3 vows. 2 of them, which are almost impossible tasks had been realised.
Conclusion is when your heart and mind is real, that faith alone can shatter all obstructions and make the impossible happen. -
So what makes sariras the only respectable remains while ashes are not considered?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Remains, yes. The difference is ashes are literally irreducible small particles in powder form, while sariras are solid relics that cannot be destroyed by any means like fire or pressure or etc, not even if you hit it hard with a metal stick. -
I agree with u to a large extent. Besides that, most singaporeans r not actually true buddhists per se, but rather practioners of "min jian xin yang" as AEN has pted out. Many of them will be concerned over the authencity of the tooth relic. How many of them have donated mainly because they feel that the tooth relic is authentic? I feel that true buddhists will not be so worked up, as they see donating as a meritiorious act.Originally posted by sanath:I think the main problem for the Buddha Relic Temple is that it is accountable to many Buddhists in Singapore and overseas who have donated so much money and effort. If the tooth is found to be fake, then the temple and Ven Fazhao would be in big trouble. But seriously, he does not seem to want to let the tooth be "scrutinised", so that actually does not bid very well...
What I dun agree is with Ven Fazhao's comments. As a buddhist monk of high repute, he should take part in this healthy debate, instead of avoiding it. My impression of buddhism is that of a rational philosophy, not a faith-based religion. -
in the realms of life and death
theres jealous, and envy around.
if theres goods word..
theres bound to have bad words spreading too.
avoiding?...haaa
the highest level of a practitioner...is to be 'unmoved' and play it cool.
The most effective way of ending a chaos..is to be silent..and the courage to walk away..without engaging verbal wars. (letting go)
rather spend the time wisely on buddhist activities. -
People ,
we like so much to believe a journalist than our mind ,
havent we forgotten that its the media that driven Princess Diana to death
and the world have lost a person who would champion for the sick around the world .
Media distort alot of truth abt our life and we still like to listen to that
So I feel why are we listening to what the media says and not our inner nature of liberation which set us free
The Heart Sutra already said
"Aways from the inverted dream , towards asolute Nirvana "
we are often affected by Media and our mind is not at ease
Please stop creating the discriminatory nature of mind else we will still dwell in this samsaric existence
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I like to reiterate on what you said. Buddha said if you don't know go ahead and find out, research it. You don't have to take my words at face value.Originally posted by Manager433:It is not good for a buddhist to question that. Its up to individual to believe or not.
So why can't we question? When in doubt ask. Why need to cover-up when if it is the truth.
Also the venerable by claming the relic was his was rather preposterous. Remember, as a monk you are not suppose to own anything. Not even the clothes he wear and NOT EVEN EMPTINESS. -
When I first read of the tooth, a long time ago, I did not question its authenticity. I just accepted it as a Buddha's tooth. When I saw a picture of the tooth, I thought that the tooth was shaped strangely, it is neither a molar or an incisor. I put it to fire damage.
But the newspaper write up, showing the difference between a human tooth and that of an animal, and I wonder.
But I really don't care if the tooth is real or not.
The tooth should not make any difference to our lives, it is not important, and should not have been kept in the first place. -
You can find out more about the difference between sharira and the ordinary ashes here: Shariras/she li zi/relicsOriginally posted by Herzog_Zwei:So what makes sariras the only respectable remains while ashes are not considered? -
Actually, with the right understanding and attitude, if one is sincere and confident, there are blessings received from venerating relics and can serve as an inspiration on one's path and practise.Originally posted by mancha:The tooth should not make any difference to our lives, it is not important, and should not have been kept in the first place.
Also, Buddha's shariras are not just bones and ashes and contains many amazing and miraculous qualities. Please read the whole article here: Shariras/she li zi/relics -- "Discussing about Shariras" -
I do agree with you very much on this.. I don't think a true practitioner will be affected very much because in the first place he isn't attached to things like relics, knowing that dharma is the most important and indestructible sarira, the one that leads us to liberation.Originally posted by simplified:the highest level of a practitioner...is to be 'unmoved' and play it cool.
The most effective way of ending a chaos..is to be silent..and the courage to walk away..without engaging verbal wars. (letting go)
rather spend the time wisely on buddhist activities. -
Hi all,Originally posted by earthling82:hi all,
I can share another personal story.
I have the honor of visiting the Sri Lanka Dalada Miligawa Tooth Relic temple last year and even entered the holy chamber to view the relic. This is a very rare honor considering that thousands of tourist do not have this privilege. Some people can wait all life to no avail.
I was standing at the bullet-proof gate and with all my heart I wanted a testament to my faith by having an audience with the tooth relic. Minutes later my wish was fulfilled; my bhante came out and led me in to the envy of the crowds of tourist. I went into the secured vault and before long, before me was the golden stupa housing the relic.
In front of the stupa i made 3 vows. 2 of them, which are almost impossible tasks had been realised. In so doing, I had to promise Buddha certain specific things, which also comes at a cost of my own life.
Conclusion is when your heart and mind is real, that faith alone can shatter all obstructions and make the impossible happen.
Earthling82 brought up a good point and that is Faith.
In the 37 factors of enlightenment, the first of the 5 Strengths and 5 Roots are none other than Faith. Lord Buddha taught that Faith is a positive mental energy that allows a practitioner to sustain and persevere in both good and bad times.
However, I think earthling82's post has little relevance to this thread that was started by LinYu. LinYu posted the news report where 2 different people brought their concerns over the authencity of the tooth to the media. What earthling82 had said may be inspiring but has nothing to do with the news report.
LinYu is right. It is the spirit of Lord Buddha's Teachings that should be practice rather than venerating on statue or in this case, takes on another form, the tooth relic.
Personally I have 3 observations from this tooth saga:
1. For buddhists who have the right understanding and right view, in the very first place, they won't even be bothered by this tooth relic, even if it is real because they will understand that the true relic of Lord Buddha is His Teachings instead. To venerate Lord Buddha's relic would mean to live His Teachings day by day to the best of our abilities.
2. For 'ming jian xin yang' buddhists, if they were made to believe that donating money in the cause of building this Tooth Relic Temple will accumulate merits, then I think I am both happy and sad for them. Happy is because I honestly believe that these people donated the money believing it to be a good cause, this genuine intention itself is meritous; however, SGD 45million and 270kg of gold could have really really put into better usage. Sad is that the trust these people have would be considered as abused if it turns out the relic to be a fake one. But of course, if not making people to believe that the tooth relic is real in the very first place, I doubt this lot of money and gold would have been collected.
3. I feel that for the answers that Ven Fazhao had given in the article was an embarassment. The manner Ven Fazhao had answered seem to be best represent that of someone with blind faith. For Buddhism to be a realistic and practical religion, can in no way escape the verification from Science (as many of you would have discussed Science in other threads).
I was fortunate to have spoken to this Mr Zhou, an editor of Vaidurya this afternoon. I mentioned about having DNA test on the tooth relic, he brought up a good point and that is that it is impossible to know the DNA of the Buddha so there will be no way to verify in the end. But I was thinking to myself, well at least we can test whether or not does it belong to a human in the first place. Lord Buddha, was a man, it would be rather absurd to say that after His Enlightenment, His features would have suddenly have a tremendous transformation right? (Buddha not extreme makeover wor).
As Sanath had rightly pointed out that the alleged tooth relic should be seen as a property to the whole buddhist community. To say that the tooth relic belongs to Ven Fazhao himself and it was a private matter between himself and Venerable Cakkapala, then I think he would be in no position to have solicit money from the public in the first place.
"As for the dental experts' assessment, he (Ven Fazhao) said: 'They can say all they want, I don't care what they say. If you believe it's real, then it's real.' " <--- For a buddhist monk who is the 1st Vice Chairman of the Singapore Buddhist Federation and abbots for 2 temples, this would have really make people doubt the standard and credibility of the understanding of the Buddha's Teachings in Singapore. Didn't Buddha always teach that it is our duty to verify things that are in doubt?
"Would he let an expert examine the tooth in Singapore? He replied: 'It's mine, why should I let you examine it? Why don't you go examine what's in Sri Lanka and China first?' " <--- I found someone mention that "in Venerable Fazhao’s publication “New Discoveries On The Threshold of Enlightenment”, it is stated at page 83 that “This tooth relic has been inspected and authenticated by experts from Japan". If this would be true, then why not show the documents from the Japanese experts and can close case? Wait a minute, didn't Ven Fazhao just mention he won't allow the relic to be tested, then why it had apparently been tested by Japanese experts? Contradicting?
My conclusion is that this saga would be a typical of what I will term monkism, people simply believe what a monk says rather than to find out the truth for themselves. Now if I say I have Buddha's and I believe so, I think in no time I will get flammed simply because I am not a monk!
Of course some would quote the story about the son using dog's bone to say it's relic to his mother. Well that may seems to be a skillful mean but now let me ask you, if someone were to give you a rat poison and say it's panadol, will you take it?
Any buddhist who has regards that Buddhism to be the Truth surely won't be stooping into such low-class lie because Lord Buddha teach that the Truth shall prevail and this is what is happening now!
Compassion is how a buddhist would show his altruism towards others but never forget that Wisdom should be the fundamental quality that a buddhist should have not only to guide others but to protect oneself too.
I hope after this saga, buddhists, especially those with right understanding and right view would see it that it is also the laypeople's responsibility to uphold the purity of the flow of the Dhamma. Instead of getting disheartened, we should get inspired!
Apologies to all, getting a bit "brain-dead" due to work and studies. I shall end my post with two quotes:
"Ren Neng Hong Dao; Fei Dao Hong Ren" --- a taoist saying (which I like a lot, it literally means man can propogate the Path not the other way round)
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke (January 12, 1729 – July 9, 1797) [/i] -
Hi Yamizi,
Would like to give my humble views to your personal observations:
" For buddhists who have the right understanding and right view, in the very first place, they won't even be bothered by this tooth relic, even if it is real because they will understand that the true relic of Lord Buddha is His Teachings instead. To venerate Lord Buddha's relic would mean to live His Teachings day by day to the best of our abilities."
- True. But I think we should be careful in saying that we buddhists "don't bother" at all. Cos it may turn into ideas like " don't bother" abt the Dharma, don't bother abt eating, sleeping, living, even existing. Before we talk abt emptiness of forms, we must know what is form first. Before we talk abt the profound, we must have first understood the profund. Be careful of becoming a nilhilist, or give others the ideas that Buddhists are such.
" For 'ming jian xin yang' buddhists, if they were made to believe that donating money in the cause of building this Tooth Relic Temple will accumulate merits, then I think I am both happy and sad for them. Happy is because I honestly believe that these people donated the money believing it to be a good cause, this genuine intention itself is meritous; however, SGD 45million and 270kg of gold could have really really put into better usage. Sad is that the trust these people have would be considered as abused if it turns out the relic to be a fake one. But of course, if not making people to believe that the tooth relic is real in the very first place, I doubt this lot of money and gold would have been collected."
- I think ppl donated for various reasons. Some may hv donated becos they support Ven. Fazhao, some wanted to believe the relics, some believed the venerable, some want to be part of this meaningful effort of building a Buddhist way place,some just want to donate to all temples regardless of there is relics or not, real or fake. Of cos there are also some that never donate anything in their whole life, not even $1.
So each to his own. No need to feel sad or happy for the donors, or, donations. Unless we want to make use of the relics to create unrest for these donors now by forcing the temple to go to science labs, police, court etc. What is the ultimate motive of those mentioned in the ST? Want to "expose" something? What? Cheating of funds? Con job suspected? Criminal offence commited? Another NKF saga?
So what is the ultimate purpose of building this temple? This is one of the many important ways of spreading the Dharma--- building a way place.( pls don't talk abt emptiness again, almost all of us here haven't reach that level yet. we must know the basic first. eg; runing is fast, everyone can run; but we must know how to stand up first, how to crawl, how to walk first.) Ven. Fazhao asked for donations to build the temple to house the relics, to hold Dharma talks, to provide Buddhists and non- buddhists a place for learning and spiritual relaxation. The relics, like the Christain cross, act as a form of faith to believers. AEN and Bohiruchi gave the story of the dog's bone to explain this. Many of us need to first build faith.
Ven. Fazhao said firmly that he believed the tooth relic to be real, so I think it was up to the donors to believe him or not. Those did, donated. Those didn't, now want to kick up some fuss after donations colledted and temple built up...
So unless Ven Fazhao collected the donations and run away with it, without building anything; or hide a portion of the donations in another secrect personal accounts for personal investments or something, I"m sorry but to tell those "whistle- blowers wanabe" that no cheating scam here for u to dig.
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cont fr above.
" I feel that for the answers that Ven Fazhao had given in the article was an embarassment. The manner Ven Fazhao had answered seem to be best represent that of someone with blind faith. For Buddhism to be a realistic and practical religion, can in no way escape the verification from Science (as many of you would have discussed Science in other threads). "
- What is blind faith? pls refer to the dog's bone story again. Unless if u see the behaviour of the mother in the story as blind faith, then maybe u can't grasp the concept yet. Yes, Science can actually proves many sutras to be relevant and that's why Buddhadhamma has become easier to understand becos of Morden Science, BUT, mordern science today is still way way way behind. To lay ppl like us, of cos any science is rocket science, but Buddhadharma is much more deeper than what science of tdy's level can proves. This I think only the relevant experts can discuss. AEN and the other Moderators had given many links regarding this aspect, can refer to them.
"I was fortunate to have spoken to this Mr Zhou, an editor of Vaidurya this afternoon. I mentioned about having DNA test on the tooth relic, he brought up a good point and that is that it is impossible to know the DNA of the Buddha so there will be no way to verify in the end. But I was thinking to myself, well at least we can test whether or not does it belong to a human in the first place. Lord Buddha, was a man, it would be rather absurd to say that after His Enlightenment, His features would have suddenly have a tremendous transformation right? (Buddha not extreme makeover wor)."
- As mentioned earlier, this is abt giving believers the faith so as to continue their Buddha path. PLs refer to Dog's bone story. Anyway, I thought u mentioned abt real Buddhists don't bother abt the relics authencity? If this is so, which can be absolutely true to enlighten beings, then why insist on DNA testing of an item valued so preciously by others? If we said Ven Fazhao doesn't owned it, then we are? OK, lets break it down this way: Ven Fazhao is the abbot of the temple, the temple housed the relics, the donors & supporters built the temple, so by the law, we can't really said the relics belong to u or me, or all Buddhists; but to those who helped to presevred or housed it. So by the law, which now some try to use in this case, we hv no right to insist on any testing. If criminal offence is suspected, the police should be informed. Don't go around to creat unneccessary unrest ( in this case social harmony of different religions is also affected) among believers towads the Sangha. There are right routes when there are right cause, no need to make a scene.
"As Sanath had rightly pointed out that the alleged tooth relic should be seen as a property to the whole buddhist community. To say that the tooth relic belongs to Ven Fazhao himself and it was a private matter between himself and Venerable Cakkapala, then I think he would be in no position to have solicit money from the public in the first place."
- same as above. And just to add on: the money was solicited fr the public who believe, just as both the Venerables, in the tooth relic. Those who don't , don't give, no harm done. The Ven housed the relic in his temple, it is "his" in this sense. U mean I being a Buddhist, can also just go in there, take the relic and give to someone else? The reason being that the relic "belongs" to all Buddhists?
"As for the dental experts' assessment, he (Ven Fazhao) said: 'They can say all they want, I don't care what they say. If you believe it's real, then it's real.' " <--- For a buddhist monk who is the 1st Vice Chairman of the Singapore Buddhist Federation and abbots for 2 temples, this would have really make people doubt the standard and credibility of the understanding of the Buddha's Teachings in Singapore. Didn't Buddha always teach that it is our duty to verify things that are in doubt? "
- same as above. Add on: I seriously wonder many ppl are in doubt of what? In doubt of the Dharma, study more, practise more. In doubt of Buddha, research more, read more. In doubt of the sangha, first ask ourselves is egoism in play here? Are we thinking we are the only smart and wise ones here? Many ppl cannot even uphold the 5 precepts, so don't doubt the over hundred of precepts the sangha is abiding. Always respect our teachers( the sangha) first, just as we respect one's elders or seniors, kings, govt, states, country... and not immediately suspect the worst for the sake of doubting. Doubts that improve skillful mental qualities is good, doubts that creats unskilfull mental qualities, or unrest in the community, society, world, is not to be encouraged.
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The answers from that monk caused more trouble than the relic. -
Maybe. If we want to look for troubles.Originally posted by mistyblue:The answers from that monk caused more trouble than the relic. -
yeah. maybe.Originally posted by cycle:Maybe. If we want to look for troubles.
sometimes its hard to know what it real and what is not real out there.
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This, I totally agree with you!Originally posted by yamizi:I hope after this saga, buddhists, especially those with right understanding and right view would see it that it is also the laypeople's responsibility to uphold the purity of the flow of the Dhamma. Instead of getting disheartened, we should get inspired! -
The Tooth Relic Temple got some publication space on a chinese paper last night with the below title:
To each their own understanding, Buddhism and Science are 2 different issues.
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Of course the tooth belongs to a herbivore, Buddha is a vegetarian.Originally posted by LinYu:Mr Yap Kok Feng, a paralegal executive, wrote to Lianhe Zaobao recently claiming that the relic looks nothing like a human tooth.
When contacted, he said that he had shown a picture of it to dentists who believe it to be a herbivore's. -
Personally, I feel that the abbot shd have come out and clarify and not saying the things he said, which are not helpful at all and add on to the controversy.
The abbot should have taken steps to ensure the Buddha Tooth he received is authentic and if in doubt, he should asked questions about it or check with other temples on this issue as the temple received quite a lot of donations from lay followers and public, which have the right to ask the authencity of the tooth.
When I look at the picture, first perception is how come the tooth is so big and doesnt look like a human tooth at all. -
Years back, when the temple was still at Tamp and when they show the poster of the tooth then, I had wondered where the tooth was, in the pic. Becos it does not look like a tooth.
Anyway, why spend so many millions $$$ to build a gold stupa and the temple. The money can be used for a better cause ; that is my opinion. -
Originally posted by cycle:
"Don't bother" at this context would refer to whether the tooth relic or not is real, I think I had mentioned it clearly and didn't mean anything else. I would appreciate that you would not have misinterpret my meaning.
- True. But I think we should be careful in saying that we buddhists "don't bother" at all. Cos it may turn into ideas like " don't bother" abt the Dharma, don't bother abt eating, sleeping, living, even existing. Before we talk abt emptiness of forms, we must know what is form first. Before we talk abt the profound, we must have first understood the profund. Be careful of becoming a nilhilist, or give others the ideas that Buddhists are such.
You seems to contradict yourself a little over here. As you had mentioned buddhists are not people who are not bothered with anything else, so in this manner, someone who advertise that the relic is of Sakyamuni Buddha's remain should be questioned. In fact any buddhists would be qualify in asking for the authencity. As you had mentioned, some people donate because they support Ven Fazhao, well I'm not judging him or what, but trust in sangha shouldn't be abused or misused. For the fact that Ven Fazhao claimed the tooth relic to be the remain of Sakyamuni Buddha, people would have taken his words for it. Now if Ven Fazhao had publicised otherwise say, this relic is a reprica and serve as a reminder and symbol of faith, that would be a totally different issue altogether.
- I think ppl donated for various reasons. Some may hv donated becos they support Ven. Fazhao, some wanted to believe the relics, some believed the venerable, some want to be part of this meaningful effort of building a Buddhist way place,some just want to donate to all temples regardless of there is relics or not, real or fake. Of cos there are also some that never donate anything in their whole life, not even $1.
So each to his own. No need to feel sad or happy for the donors, or, donations. Unless we want to make use of the relics to create unrest for these donors now by forcing the temple to go to science labs, police, court etc. What is the ultimate motive of those mentioned in the ST? Want to "expose" something? What? Cheating of funds? Con job suspected? Criminal offence commited? Another NKF saga?
Please don't misinterpret that I would want to create unrest, that would never be the thing in my mind. Rather as a buddhist, seeker of Truth, would like to clarify and verify the matter. I think the motive of ST would be the same as mine, to find out the Truth. Of course if you are not interested in the Truth so be it. But I believe many out there are interested. Time now is different, people are more educated, becoming more knowledgeable.
If the tooth relic turns out to be a fake one and because during the fund raising, they didn't mention that it is a fake one, then it really seems to be a fraud isn't it?
I never intended to talk about emptiness, apologies but I have no idea how you got there. Please don't misquote me. There are many ways to spread the Dhamma but if the tooth relic in question indeed turns out to be a fake, how are we going to answer to buddhists and non-buddhists alike that such a high status monk resort in such deceiving manner?
So what is the ultimate purpose of building this temple? This is one of the many important ways of spreading the Dharma--- building a way place.( pls don't talk abt emptiness again, almost all of us here haven't reach that level yet. we must know the basic first. eg; runing is fast, everyone can run; but we must know how to stand up first, how to crawl, how to walk first.) Ven. Fazhao asked for donations to build the temple to house the relics, to hold Dharma talks, to provide Buddhists and non- buddhists a place for learning and spiritual relaxation. The relics, like the Christain cross, act as a form of faith to believers. AEN and Bohiruchi gave the story of the dog's bone to explain this. Many of us need to first build faith.
Yes, basic is important, I totally agree with you but if the basic is built upon a lie, how much trust and credibility do we hold?
What is the 4th precept?
Musavada veramani sikkhapadam samadiyami
Sacco mudu sanhavaco kalyanavakkarano bhavami
We take the precept to abstain from lying.
We will speak the truth, words mild, pleasant and noble.
The temple in question has been open for about 2 months? But the impression I had as I have been there 3 times myself, was nothing but merely performing some blessing rituals.
Yes, I agree with you that tooth relic can be a symbol. But is this tooth relic an authentic or replica? This would have to come clean first.
The story given by AEN and Bodhiruici, no doubt is inspiring but has its flaw. First is that it's the son to the mother who is seriously ill, so the son had little choices but to tell a white lie to bring the mother to comfort. But how can you assume all buddhists out there would want to be spiritually consoled in this manner? Of course I guess that you might say, well this is only meant to attract those who need such kind of comfort. But is this really what Lord Sakyamuni Buddha had taught? To pray to his remains?
There is a sutta that sort of address to this issue in the Pali Canon which I can't remember offhand. During Buddha's time, there was this monk, he always like to sit in the first row of the congregation looking at Buddha in awe. One day Buddha asked him a question which the monk ain't really paying attention. The Buddha then told this monk that, "My (Buddha's) body is nothing but a bag of filth that is not worthy of adoration but one should honour the Dhamma that I teach." (will find exact quote but it was meant to be somewhere along that line).
Fundamental question of whether or not has the trust of people to Ven Fazhao has been misused and abused or not. Cycle, I am not a white-blower but how sure are you to know there is no hidden portion of donations? Nobody knows? And I'm not interested with that, I am only interested in knowing whether the relic tooth, say, belongs to human in the first place.
Ven. Fazhao said firmly that he believed the tooth relic to be real, so I think it was up to the donors to believe him or not. Those did, donated. Those didn't, now want to kick up some fuss after donations colledted and temple built up...
So unless Ven Fazhao collected the donations and run away with it, without building anything; or hide a portion of the donations in another secrect personal accounts for personal investments or something, I"m sorry but to tell those "whistle- blowers wanabe" that no cheating scam here for u to dig.
To others,
To the best of my knowledge, Buddha was not a herbivour. He was not a vegetarian to begin with. In fact, to the best of my knowledge (any bio student can verify?), human anatomy by birth is of omnivour?
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huh? you sure?Originally posted by maurizio13:Of course the tooth belongs to a herbivore, Buddha is a vegetarian. -
Pluck out the tooth of any human being in India, Nepal or Sri lanka also cannot match that size
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In the light of NKF saga ,some people actually use this to gauge Buddhist charity
Dear all, Ven Fazhao is always engaging in Metta charity for the Down Syndrome syndrome
Let us try to visualise ourselves as Down syndrome ppl .
First you are look down by people as your IQ and your looks pretty the same as you are as 3 years old .No matter where you went , ppl will point finger at you
I am not siding Ven Fazhao in this issue , but I believe if He wish to create a "tooth " for his fame and glory , he would have done it at long before he build Golden Pagoda Buddhist temple .
I cannot find a book written by him and a idea to build a Ci Guang Ren .[this part is to the point,I will not go beyond this point ,as some Buddhist association will not be happy when I say beyond this ]
There are alot of Venerable in Singapore who toil anonymously for Buddhism ,though his word sound unbefitting as a monk , I believe He have seen something we cant ,and we cannot judge monk as human by a certain standard of response .
media can distort views
We dunno who is right and who is wrong ,we will leave it to time to prove us
so if you live long , why worry of the hidden , it will soon be uncovered .
there have been even reports people suspecting Sakyamuni Buddha dun even exist , was only a legend to make people happy .such questioning will only bring futility and fruitless search
Science cannot measure the power of Faith .If science can ,then science must be able to measure the existence of ghost and other form of sentient beings