Why will buddhism one day disappear from the world?
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Something really puzzle me is why will buddhism still one day disappear from our world. Since every now and then there are some great masters appear in the world to ensure the dharma will continue to spread to sentient beings.
In fact after buddhism diminish from India, it flourish in country like china, tibet, and now even to the whole world. It is in upward trend.
By right the number of people who become enlightened should be increasing over time, likewise for the englightened being who vow to come back to the world.
The great masters like padmasambhava, karmapa, xuan zhuang and so on should be able to come back to our world to guide us on the buddhism path or better still achieve another heir day or miracle.
We have a lot of unseen dharma protectors around to help the continuation of the buddha teaching too.
Is it because our society become more and more complicated due to technology improvement and competition arise? -
tell me ,is the spiritual world progressing ?
Now we live in an age of high technology and luxury and convenience at our doorstep .
We will not be push to life extreme to seek the truth of life .thats for sure
unlike several patriach who went to mountains to pay homage to bodhisattva
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The dharma will not disappear too soon, but is in the process of slow degeneration. But the signs are that it will last for another thousands of years. According to one prediction, first 500 years are the true dharma age, second 1000 years are dharma semblance age, and the third 10000 years are the dharma ending age. We're somewhere in the dharma ending age, but the dharma is still available for us to practise.Originally posted by justdoit77:Something really puzzle me is why will buddhism still one day disappear from our world. Since every now and then there are some great masters appear in the world to ensure the dharma will continue to spread to sentient beings.
In fact after buddhism diminish from India, it flourish in country like china, tibet, and now even to the whole world. It is in upward trend.
By right the number of people who become enlightened should be increasing over time, likewise for the englightened being who vow to come back to the world.
The great masters like padmasambhava, karmapa, xuan zhuang and so on should be able to come back to our world to guide us on the buddhism path or better still achieve another heir day or miracle.
We have a lot of unseen dharma protectors around to help the continuation of the buddha teaching too.
Is it because our society become more and more complicated due to technology improvement and competition arise?
The Bodhisattvas will keep returning, but humanity will eventually degenerate away. When the human lifespan reduces to somewhere like 10 years old, at that time, people will be fighting with each other everywhere and the world is in chaos. At that time, there are still Bodhisattvas, Arhats, and other practitioners, but the people will not want to seek dharma from them. As a matter of fact if you try to advise them you'll probably get killed too. So in this period of chaos, the Bodhisattvas, Arhats, and the practitioners will retreat into the wilderness to be protected from all the mess.
There will come a time where great catastrophes will happen and most of humanity will be wiped out. Only few will survive, and those that survive vows to make the world a better place because they're just sick of it. At that time, the Bodhisattvas and practitioners will return to society and once again the people are receptive to the teachings.
More info: http://www.jenchen.org.sg/vol8no2a.htm -
So try to have a small collection of sutras
I have a small collection of sutras
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i have a medium collection of sutra?
who wants to come and see
national day come come my house
hahaha
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u open house ah? make official leh.Originally posted by bohiruci:i have a medium collection of sutra?
who wants to come and see
national day come come my house
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I didn't live in the ancient time, so can't tell. but one thing I find is it is easier to cling to attachment and commit in crime nowadays given all these conveniences provided by our technology.Originally posted by bohiruci:tell me ,is the spiritual world progressing ?
Now we live in an age of high technology and luxury and convenience at our doorstep .
We will not be push to life extreme to seek the truth of life .thats for sure
unlike several patriach who went to mountains to pay homage to bodhisattva -
maybe you should make a copy of it and bury it underground, so in future after the dharma disappear, someone may discover it. haha.Originally posted by bohiruci:i have a medium collection of sutra?
who wants to come and see
national day come come my house
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yup, it is sad to know that.
We should really be grateful of the Bodhisattvas, they could have just leaving us and go somewhere else to practise on their own, but due to their compassion, they come and help us.
I also noticed something, whenever there is any puja/fa hui that aims to reduce our bad karma or give blessing to the participant, I will see a lot of people joining, but when it comes to dharma talk, very few people will turn up.
Anyway, it is dharma ending age, no surprise.
Everytime when I see those live fishes and prawns struggling painfully in NTUC, I feel a sense of urgency to practise. If I don't, who knows when will be my turn.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:The dharma will not disappear too soon, but is in the process of slow degeneration. But the signs are that it will last for another thousands of years. According to one prediction, first 500 years are the true dharma age, second 1000 years are dharma semblance age, and the third 10000 years are the dharma ending age. We're somewhere in the dharma ending age, but the dharma is still available for us to practise.
The Bodhisattvas will keep returning, but humanity will eventually degenerate away. When the human lifespan reduces to somewhere like 10 years old, at that time, people will be fighting with each other everywhere and the world is in chaos. At that time, there are still Bodhisattvas, Arhats, and other practitioners, but the people will not want to seek dharma from them. As a matter of fact if you try to advise them you'll probably get killed too. So in this period of chaos, the Bodhisattvas, Arhats, and the practitioners will retreat into the wilderness to be protected from all the mess.
There will come a time where great catastrophes will happen and most of humanity will be wiped out. Only few will survive, and those that survive vows to make the world a better place because they're just sick of it. At that time, the Bodhisattvas and practitioners will return to society and once again the people are receptive to the teachings.
More info: http://www.jenchen.org.sg/vol8no2a.htm -
Very few sutras are engrave into metals...very hard to that type of sutras and expensive tooOriginally posted by justdoit77:maybe you should make a copy of it and bury it underground, so in future after the dharma disappear, someone may discover it. haha.
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Yes.. hopefully more people will see the importance of practising the dharma.Originally posted by justdoit77:yup, it is sad to know that.
We should really be grateful of the Bodhisattvas, they could have just leaving us and go somewhere else to practise on their own, but due to their compassion, they come and help us.
I also noticed something, whenever there is any puja/fa hui that aims to reduce our bad karma or give blessing to the participant, I will see a lot of people joining, but when it comes to dharma talk, very few people will turn up.
Anyway, it is dharma ending age, no surprise.
Everytime when I see those live fishes and prawns struggling painfully in NTUC, I feel a sense of urgency to practise. If I don't, who knows when will be my turn. -
When Buddhism is tainted with superstitious followers, you'll probably see people flocking to gather blessings for own benefit rather than the sentient beings.Originally posted by justdoit77:yup, it is sad to know that.
We should really be grateful of the Bodhisattvas, they could have just leaving us and go somewhere else to practise on their own, but due to their compassion, they come and help us.
I also noticed something, whenever there is any puja/fa hui that aims to reduce our bad karma or give blessing to the participant, I will see a lot of people joining, but when it comes to dharma talk, very few people will turn up.
Anyway, it is dharma ending age, no surprise.
Everytime when I see those live fishes and prawns struggling painfully in NTUC, I feel a sense of urgency to practise. If I don't, who knows when will be my turn.
Nevertheless, like my Guru told me once: practise hard yourself, so that you can one day, help release the sentient beings from suffering. And at the same time, keep your motivation pure, which is for the benefit of all (ie. generation of bodhicitta).
By the way, when you saw someone you don't like suffering, do you still feel the sense of urgency to practise? -
Isn't impermanence, transient, no self, cessation of all conditions arising - the principles in Buddhism? The goal of Buddhism is the cessation of suffering. When the goal is reached, Buddhism comes to an end?
Nibbana is not eternal bliss. Its not the same as the Christian's eternal life through salvation! In Buddhism, there is no rebirth and there is no 'end of the world' whereas in Christianity, there is the Second Coming. Jesus will come again, so Christianity will not disappear. -
If he is one that I don't like, that is because he did something bad and end up suffering, which will remind me of karma and the need to practise as well.Originally posted by coolbluewater:By the way, when you saw someone you don't like suffering, do you still feel the sense of urgency to practise? -
When the dharma disappear from the world, definitely there will still be a lot of beings haven't become enlightened yet. There are always new batches of beings progressing to human realm, don't say 10000 years, even 10000 kalpas there will still be unenlightened beings around.Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:Isn't impermanence, transience, no self, cessation of all conditions arising - the principles in Buddhism? The goal of Buddhism is the cessation of suffering. When the goal is reached, is there a need for the Dhamma?
Nibbana is not eternal bliss. Its not the same as the Christian's eternal life through salvation! In Buddhism, there is no 'end of the world' whereas in Christianity, there is the Second Coming. So, the gospel will never come to an end. When Jesus come again, there will be a new Newer Testament in electronic digital medium!
If the Dhamma cease to exist, then all sentient beings have become enlightened?
To be frank with you, Christian's eternal life is not eternal anyway, even one follow and practise diligently the bible teaching, he can at most go to heaven and enjoy for a long but limited timeframe. -
Buddhism, unlike Christianity or other religions is not about "beliefs" but looking at what goes on in this forum, what the Buddhists post in this forum...
If you think for example "non-existence " is a belief like "in Christianity, there is the Second Coming "... *sigh* -
There is no second coming
The second coming written in sutras is just to test how much you understand dharma -
Are you saying that what was written in the sutra, was a mere lie?Originally posted by maggot:There is no second coming
The second coming written in sutras is just to test how much you understand dharma
Buddha don't lie, but again, we won't be around when the 2nd coming arrives. BUT, we may not get to be reborn as Human , that's for sure. -
Not a lieOriginally posted by path_seeker:Are you saying that what was written in the sutra, was a mere lie?
Buddha don't lie, but again, we won't be around when the 2nd coming arrives. BUT, we may not get to be reborn as Human , that's for sure.
A step to test how much a person understand dharma -
What is non-existence? What is the purpose of practising Buddhism? Why do we want to realise emptiness?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Buddhism, unlike Christianity or other religions is not about "beliefs" but looking at what goes on in this forum, what the Buddhists post in this forum...
If you think for example "non-existence " is a belief like "in Christianity, there is the Second Coming "... *sigh*
I have to point out that Buddhism advocate faith and confidence, and has little to do with plain beliefs, or superstitious. So, back to the point, the second coming was recorded in the sutra, just because we won't get to see it, doesn't mean that it won't happen. Likewise, just because we didn't meet Sakyamuni Buddha, doesn't it mean that he's just a plain myth created to pull people in to buddhism? -
If its not a lie, then why its only a test and not truth?Originally posted by maggot:Not a lie
A step to test how much a person understand dharma -
You have very strong need for "beliefs"; that is normal... that is how humans function...Originally posted by path_seeker:What is non-existence? What is the purpose of practising Buddhism? Why do we want to realise emptiness?
I have to point out that Buddhism advocate faith and confidence, and has little to do with plain beliefs, or superstitious. So, back to the point, the second coming was recorded in the sutra, just because we won't get to see it, doesn't mean that it won't happen. Likewise, just because we didn't meet Sakyamuni Buddha, doesn't it mean that he's just a plain myth created to pull people in to buddhism?
It is called "attachment"
There are beliefs and REALITY, there is no such thing as Beliefs and "plain beliefs" -
The answer to your question lies in this question: "How do you know what is a test and what is truth?"Originally posted by path_seeker:If its not a lie, then why its only a test and not truth? -
Hmmmm. then if belief doesn't exist, what exist?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You have very strong need for "beliefs"; that is normal... that is how humans function...
It is called "attachment"
There are beliefs and REALITY, there is no such thing as Beliefs and "plain beliefs"
What we see, feel are are reality, but again, they are also emptiness. While we can be certain of the reality we can see/feel/touch, how do we know what to belief about emptiness? How do you convince the rest of the folks who don't do meditation, that Emptiness does exist? -
So what is truth then? How do one knows in everything buddha preaches exist?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:The answer to your question lies in this question: "How do you know what is a test and what is truth?"