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Is there a hole in the universe?
http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSL0956988620080409
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/05/14/britain.ufos/index.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/23/national/main4202617.shtml
Originally posted by concerned_man:Americans: My Religion Isn't The Only Way
Survey Finds 70 Percent In U.S. Believe Other Faiths Can Lead To Eternal Life
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/23/national/main4202617.shtml
By many measures, Americans are strongly religious: 92 percent believe in God, 74 percent believe in life after death and 63 percent say their respective scriptures are the word of God.
so potion of believers also believe in life after death ? not contradicting? interesting.
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ya, that's wat i thought.
though the statement seem to mean as if life after death is rebirth or "reincarnation". life after death as human rather than life after death in heaven or hell?
then wat abt the 18% of the believers who don't believe in life after death?
btw, by (God) believers, i mean not just Christians, can be Jews, Roman Catholics, mainline Protestants etc.
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Astronomers on Verge of Finding Earth's Twin
Planet hunters say it's just a matter of time before they lasso Earth's twin, which almost surely is hiding somewhere in our star-studded galaxy.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20080624/sc_space/astronomersonvergeoffindingearthstwin
Originally posted by sinweiy:ya, that's wat i thought.
though the statement seem to mean as if life after death is rebirth or "reincarnation". life after death as human rather than life after death in heaven or hell?
then wat abt the 18% of the believers who don't believe in life after death?
btw, by (God) believers, i mean not just Christians, can be Jews, Roman Catholics, mainline Protestants etc.
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no, generally Christians don't believe in rebirth as human.
They believe that they will gain Eternal Life (in heaven), even after death.
Originally posted by concerned_man:Astronomers on Verge of Finding Earth's Twin
Planet hunters say it's just a matter of time before they lasso Earth's twin, which almost surely is hiding somewhere in our star-studded galaxy.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20080624/sc_space/astronomersonvergeoffindingearthstwin
...most definitely...
The day will come where 4 planets, including this, will be ruled by one wheel turning king.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:no, generally Christians don't believe in rebirth as human.
They believe that they will gain Eternal Life (in heaven), even after death.
yes that's what i thought, though if it's refering to that, then wat abt the 18% of the believers who don't believe in life after death? they, even though are Christians, they don't believe that they'll gain Eternal Life (in heaven), even after death? hmm..
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Originally posted by sinweiy:
yes that's what i thought, though if it's refering to that, then wat abt the 18% of the believers who don't believe in life after death? they, even though are Christians, they don't believe that they'll gain Eternal Life (in heaven), even after death? hmm../\
Judaism believes in God but does not believe in heaven or hell in the Christian sense. Probably many jews don't believe in afterlife, though they do have this concept.
somemore X'tian got use the word "reborn" in the sense reborn during this life.
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They mean 'born again', it's more like a spiritual birth. A quantum shift in perception, from 'I' (ego) to the 'Christ' Self, or Spirit.
It does not mean 'rebirth' in the Buddhist sense, though...
ya, "born again" is the word.
of cos it's not 'rebirth' in the Buddhist sense.
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i actually go and check out the meanin of "Afterlife" or "Life after death".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterlife#Types_of_views_on_the_afterlife
it's of a wider range than the typical Christian idea. it can also involve Buddhist's concept of "radio-wave".
Types of views on the afterlife
There are two fundamentally different types of views on the afterlife: views claiming to be scientific and religious views.
- The first type claims to be based on some form of an observation by a human or an instrument (for example a radio or a voice recorder, which are used in EVP)[clarify]. These observations come from reincarnation research, near death experiences, out-of-body experiences, astral projection, electronic voice phenomena, mediumship, various forms of photography etcetera. They are studied by survivalism. The work of people like Bruce Moen and Robert Monroe are also of this type. Also scientific research into near death experiences based on observation, for example the work of Pim van Lommel. [1]
- The second type is based on some form of faith, usually faith in the stories that are told by ancestors or faith in religious books like the Bible, the Qur'an, the Talmud, the Vedas, the Tripitaka et cetera. This article is mainly about this second type.
- The afterlife in different metaphysical models
- Afterlife research in the early 20th century
- Afterlife in modern science
- Afterlife as reincarnation
An afterlife concept that is found among Hindus, Rosicrucians, Spiritists, and Wicca is reincarnation, as evolving humans life after life in the physical world, that is, acquiring a superior grade of consciousness and altruism by means of successive reincarnations. This succession is conceived to lead toward an eventual liberation or spiritual rebirth as spiritual beings.
Some practitioners of eastern religions follow a different concept called metempsychosis which purposes that human beings can transmigrate into animals, vegetables, or even minerals.[citation needed] One consequence of the Hindu and Spiritist beliefs is that our current lives are also an afterlife. According to those beliefs events in our current life are consequences of actions taken in previous lives, or Karma.
ha, the article is not specific in which type though. :)
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Originally posted by sinweiy:i actually go and check out the meanin of "Afterlife" or "Life after death".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterlife#Types_of_views_on_the_afterlife
it's of a wider range than the typical Christian idea. it can also involve Buddhist's concept of "radio-wave".
ha, the article is not specific in which type though. :)
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Actually it doesn't even involve physics but meta-physics. Different topic.
Originally posted by concerned_man:
What if our universe was actually the result of an experiment by a group of scientists outside this universe trying to 'test' the big bang? ![]()
(just kidding)
German scientists discover 120 million year-old ant
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080916/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_germany_ant
First Pics Of Extra-Solar Planets Captured
Astronomers Capture Fuzzy Images Of Alien Planets; Also, Mars Rover Back Online, First Moon Images Restored
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/13/tech/main4601935.shtml?tag=topHome;topStories
Buddhism and Science
There is no conflict between modern scientific discoveries of today and the Buddha’s Teaching. Many things that the Buddha taught about 2 500 years ago have been proven true by modem science. The importance and power of the mind, the impermanence of things, the divisibility of the atom, relativity of matter and energy, and even the structure of the universe - all these are contained in the Buddha’s Teaching. So a Buddhist does not have to ignore the facts about man and the universe that are gradually being revealed by science.
Time is relativity and relativity is time