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My reference to 'something' is not restricted to object per se. I mentioned that Man is both good and bad. God is both good and bad. Sex is both good and bad. Knowledge is both good and bad. .......Originally posted by oldkid:Of course a physical object such as "something" has characteristics (big, small, tall, short, smooth, rough... etc.) and functions (carry load, container for other objects). But it lack the distinctive quality of good or bad.
Just as pesticide is good for ridding pests for farmers and is bad for the consumers whom consumes the crops.
After more contemplation, I could only humbly guess that you mean objects that were made with specific functions, like weapons such as guns and bombs. Weapons are made with specific motivation by the designer to efficiently subdue the enemies (immobilised or dead). So I guess you can say that weapon is bad in a mundane way.
I do agree with what you said to certain extend and the analogy given in my previous post about exams is not a good one. A selfish person needs not be greedy and vice versa.Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:Unwillingness to share is selfishness. That is the desire to hold and not to part, not necessarily, what we already have and in abundance.
Greed is the desire to want more of the same, beyond need and even though already in abundant possession. It may actually sound like sefishness is the opposite of greed but have the same root - craving & clinging?
It is just like buying 4D or toto ever hoping the "magic" number will come out... buy 3 years already still never come out and still buy some more! -Craving and clinging.Originally posted by Thusness:I do agree with what you said to certain extend and the analogy given in my previous post about exams is not a good one. A selfish person needs not be greedy and vice versa.
Nevertheless I think including the unwillingness factor when attempting to have a more complete picture of greed is still crucial. An example will be the unwillingness to cut loss when a person in equity market is experiencing a drastic sharp dropped on the share prices. This to me is a manifestation of greed. Thus the Dharma therapy towards greed is generosity -- an opposite countering quality by practicing the willingness to share and give.
On the other hand, ‘selfishness’ to me is more of placing one’s interest ahead of others and the ‘unwillingness to part’ due to selfishness is an expression of that factor.
Lastly I do agree that both have the same root – craving and clinging.
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Ok, got it. But the good and bad part still lies in the person who see the "man", "god" or "sex" and how the "man", "god" or "sex" will affect the viewer's perceptions, feelings, emotions, physical well-being, environment and the people around the viewer.Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:My reference to 'something' is not restricted to object per se. I mentioned that Man is both good and bad. God is both good and bad. Sex is both good and bad. Knowledge is both good and bad. .......
Eh... I have no experiences in securities trading and I dun gamble even on 4D or Toto so I really cannot give point of views.Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:In securities trading, there are many pyschological factors. Greed is just one of them. Fear, herd instinct, ignorance, and rumours can affect one's behaviour in the market. When it comes to losses and holding, two pyschological factors come into play:
1) hope
2) don't want to loose
Hmmm.... I might add that Greed is both good and bad?
Warren Buffett can show you how to invest.Originally posted by oldkid:Eh... I have no experiences in securities trading and I dun gamble even on 4D or Toto so I really cannot give point of views.
As for Greed is both good and bad, again it still depends on the person who is greedy and what is the effect of that greed on others. I think greed usually harms oneself more than others.
Oh I remember! I used to love going for buffet lunch or dinner alot! I like to eat alot and it never seems to be enough! Once, I had ate 21 slices of pizza, 1 bowl of soup, 1 plate of salad and 2 cups of ice-cream at Pizza Hut Buffet lunch. At that time, I still feel I had not eaten enough and wanted to eat more to make my money worth its while. When I left Pizza Hut, I was so full and sick, I threw up all the food I had ingested.
From then on I never dared to eat buffet.
Greed can be in a sense seen as hoarding things such as food or money. It is is never enough...
\Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:Warren Buffett can show you how to invest.
As for buffet, I can warrant that it is the perfect example of greed - gluttony!
In Buddhism, Laziness is a bad mental quality that serves as an obstruction (one of the five obstructions) to both our Dharma practise as well as osbtruction from gaining achievement in life.Originally posted by NewAge:If i do not crave for anything or cling to anything n let time pass by (eg by being extremely lazy, too lazy to bother about anything including myself) will that be good?
Actually it's all depends on the intention behind doing these.Originally posted by NewAge:The greed i refer to is the thirst for knowledge. All types of knowledge but with focus on scientific progression like how to conquer space or studying hard to pass exams or even the strife for a better life.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:You got your answers there
....In order to encourage people not to fall into the same predicament, the Buddha said, "Ananda, always remember to advise and guide people:
In youth, be determined, diligent, and thrifty and strive to acquire knowledge.
Maintain a mind that is distant and unchained from desire and be focused on building a career during the prime of life.
In middle age, realise a stable career that is based on diligence, zeal, progress and Right Action.
Always use the wealth meaningfully to benefit self and others.
Do not wait till old age and rely on the people's benevolence like the aged swan."
The above incident demonstrates the compassion of the Buddha in caring for sentient beings and encouraging people to be determined in striving for progress, regardless of whether one is concerned with building a career, or one who has renounced the worldly life to learn and cultivate the right path. His only wish was for all sentient beings to be distant from suffering and attain happiness in life...
It is dualistic (therefore not right, not wise, not correct) to think in terms of labels (words) like greed. love, hate and so on... that is what Buddhism is trying to teach you.Originally posted by NewAge:The greed i refer to is the thirst for knowledge. All types of knowledge but with focus on scientific progression like how to conquer space or studying hard to pass exams or even the strife for a better life.