Yes..Originally posted by me_a_clone:u mean no such thing as the 6 or 7 day they will return for the last visit?
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:The deceased can be around up till 49 days depending on how long he/she takes to reborn.
Sorry to hear about that.. and I missed this post.
If your mom is still within the 49 days period, I really advise you to find a venerable who can come and help 'chao du' and speak the dharma to your mom.. that would be of help to her.
As for which day she is there, a Zhong Yin Sheng can be around every day until the day he/she is reborn. Therefore if you chant it will have a positive impact on the deceased, and also encourage the deceased to chant along as well.
Rather than coming back on the 7th day, actually, every 7th day there is usually a high chance to be reborn... until 49th day.
i see.. but i hear that if she do alot of good she will go up but once she used up the merit, she will be reborn or go to hell. true or not?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:The deceased can be around up till 49 days depending on how long he/she takes to reborn.
Originally posted by me_a_clone:This is possible but not always the case. It all depends on each individual karma. There are also those who have very good karma, and life after life he is reborn in heaven... for a very very long time (though of course that is impermanent and maybe one day he/she still might be reborn back in human realm). I remember Buddha did described a few types of people's 'rebirth patterns' and this is one of them.
i see.. but i hear that if she do alot of good she will go up but once she used up the merit, she will be reborn or go to hell. true or not?
if it is true, then in order to let her stay up we have to keep doing merits for her?If you continue dedicating merits, it will certainly help.
if it is not true.. then do u think it is possible for me to know whr she is? maybe via meditation or anything?I do not have such powers, for this you have to find some masters who have such powers.
Hi,Originally posted by me_a_clone:thx isis.. i m chanting to help my mum.. and btw wad the meaning of ' the parents are the 2 buddha in the family'
sorry for my noob-ness![]()
Isis,Originally posted by Isis:Hi,
To further clarify, every sentient beings have Buddha nature.
Regards,
Isis
Hi,Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Isis,
To your statement, I disagree... Not all sentient being have buddha nature...
I understand that having a buddha nature is not directly equivalent to be a goody-two shoes but can you accept that there are people whose nature is antithesis of Buddha?Originally posted by Isis:Hi,
What is your perception about the term " Buddha nature" before making this statement? Having a Buddha nature does not mean you are a good-goody two shoes. It has a different meaning behind it.
cheers
Whatever characteristics that the individual being appears to be -- evil, cunning, whatever, all these are temporary characteristics and therefore is not his nature.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:I understand that having a buddha nature is not directly equivalent to be a goody-two shoes but can you accept that there are people whose nature is antithesis of Buddha?
Originally posted by Isis:see what you can get, when listen to all the 12 lectures, by Monk Hyungak (Paul Muenzen).
I don't know how to explain "Buddha nature" properly as I'm not there yet.![]()
If it's sustainable? Then it's possible that Buddha nature cannot exist in such a person? How long does it need to be sustained? 1 lifetime? Billions of kalpas of lifetime?Originally posted by Isis:I don't know how to explain "Buddha nature" properly as I'm not there yet.
Could you look at it from a meditative point of view.
Every one could be experience "it" in day to day but is unable to sustain "it" nor aware that they are experiencing "there state" as it could come and go in a instant or in split second... very fast.
To sidetrack,
mmm How you been ?
Having a lousy or good week ?
If that is the true nature of a person?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Whatever characteristics that the individual being appears to be -- evil, cunning, whatever, all these are temporary characteristics and therefore is not his nature.
His Buddha Nature is immovable but yet to be realised.
I told you, those characteristics are temporary and therefore cannot possibly be his true nature.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:If that is the true nature of a person?
Buddha Nature is always here, like the sun. Sometimes clouds cover it and the luminosity becomes not so apparent, but still it's there. Sometimes the mental afflictions that obscures its clarity dissipates and we experience it in full. Whatever it is, the luminosity of our true nature is always shining.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:If it's sustainable? Then it's possible that Buddha nature cannot exist in such a person? How long does it need to be sustained? 1 lifetime? Billions of kalpas of lifetime?
Is mental illness a true nature of a person?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:I told you, those characteristics are temporary and therefore cannot possibly be his true nature.
It is not the true nature of a person, but a spontaneous expression of his true nature at that moment, just as every experience is the spontaneous expression of our luminosity/clarity.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Is mental illness a true nature of a person?
I believe that mental illness is part of the true nature of a person. Remove it and some part of the person's character and true nature goes away too.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:It is not the true nature of a person, but a spontaneous expression of his true nature at that moment, just as every experience is the spontaneous expression of our luminosity/clarity.
However it is difficult for someone with mental illness to realise his true nature, as it is difficult for anyone with heavy mind karma.
That is because you are seeing the true nature of a person as a graspable entity, and therefore that 'entity' can be reduced or increased. This is not true, as the true nature of reality is Emptiness, without increase nor decrease, because all things are empty of inherent existence -- no fixed 'Entity' can be found.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:I believe that mental illness is part of the true nature of a person. Remove it and some part of the person's character and true nature goes away too.
And like I said -- something that is temporal, that comes and goes, cannot be one's TRUE NATURE.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:I believe that mental illness is part of the true nature of a person. Remove it and some part of the person's character and true nature goes away too.
If I remove a part of a person's brains, there's going to be moving in character, and thus the true nature of the person is obscured.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:And like I said -- something that is temporal, that comes and goes, cannot be one's TRUE NATURE.
True nature is our immovable reality that has no coming and no going, NO MOVEMENT. That is the luminous-emptiness, our Buddha Nature, the nature of reality.
Our true nature is 'apparently' obscured most of the time if we are not enlightened yet. Only when we become enlightened that our true nature becomes completely apparent, because there is insight. We might also use the analogy of the sun to describe something like our mental afflictions/defilements obscuring the brightness/luminosity of the sun, though all these are spoken relatively and NOT to be taken as ultimate truth.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:If I remove a part of a person's brains, there's going to be moving in character, and thus the true nature of the person is obscured.
It does not need to be sustained as it has always been there.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:If it's sustainable? Then it's possible that Buddha nature cannot exist in such a person? How long does it need to be sustained? 1 lifetime? Billions of kalpas of lifetime?
What do you think makes joy infinite in a person's life? Can a person be sad for eternity? As I oft said, the believe that each and every person having a Buddha nature is a questionable philosophy.Originally posted by Isis:It does not need to be sustained as it has always been there.
You can use your imagination and intellect to form a concept in your mind on what "actually is Buddha nature ???"
But you can't see Buddha nature with that mean.