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may i know is doing oral XXX and anal XXX consider (Xie yin) in wu jie?. Also is homo or bisexual a sin? I have read some forum it says no while says say yes? There is one buddhism who says no too in therveda or what ??? anyone verify?
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numbers mus be chinese ? isnt supported.Originally posted by hanbyul88:may i know is doing oral XXX and anal XXX consider Xie yin（邪淫）? Also is homo or bisexual a sin? I have read some forum it says no while says say yes? There is one buddhism who says no too in therveda or what ??? anyone verify?
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this is the post i posted several months back ,take a look at itOriginally posted by hanbyul88:may i know is doing oral XXX and anal XXX consider (Xie yin) in wu jie?. Also is homo or bisexual a sin? I have read some forum it says no while says say yes? There is one buddhism who says no too in therveda or what ??? anyone verify?
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Originally posted by hanbyul88:
Yes. 'Sexual misconduct' refers to (according to Abhidharmakosha)...
may i know is doing oral XXX and anal XXX consider (Xie yin) in wu jie?.
Wrong partner-- a married person, a minor, someone in a relationship, an incompetent.
Wrong time -- day time
Wrong place -- in public, in shrine, etc.
Wrong orifice -- oral, anal.Also is homo or bisexual a sin?
This is something that many people have different opinions. But generally speaking, don't think that it is limited to any particular tradition, we do not encourage homosexuality.
I have read some forum it says no while says say yes? There is one buddhism who says no too in therveda or what ??? anyone verify?
Thanks you
We don't actually believe in 'sin'. In accordance with my dharma teacher (I'm from Mahayana anyway), in Buddhism, in the sense that there is no absolute evil person. Everyone is a human, but they are conditioned by their way of thinking... so if their way of thinking can be transformed, the person can be transformed. We should not condemn homosexuals or bisexuals but if possible provide them with counselling/guidance and encouragement.
I recall my dharma teacher speak about how homosexuality is a misidentification of our gender, and advised us to remain as what our gender is... that is not to engage in homosexuality, male shldnt seek male and female seek female and so on.
And no matter what we cannot run away from the fact of our gender.. even if we become transexual. That is, maybe you can change your sexual organs, but the fact is you still can't give birth to children, etc. But some people say "I don't need that'... even so, not everything can be changed, such as a male's adam's apple will remain. And such. So the fact of his real gender remain.. These transexuals will also face social difficulties, such as if you go and apply a job the boss will look at your face, and think that you do not look like a guy, and neither do you look like a girl, and your social opportunies and even career will be affected. Transexuals generally have a very very difficult lives for them... and would usually tell you not to walk that path unless you can tolerate a lot a lot of pain.
Another thing that my taiwanese teacher mentioned during his 2003 talk was that homosexuals generally have short lifespan.. because his personality and thinking become leaned towards feminity, or towards masculinity, and as a result the hormones are affected and becomes 'shi1 tiao2'... I didn't knew that was true, but when I searched the internet there are actually quite many research that supports this statement that homosexuals usually have shorter lifespan. Some people say isn't homosexuality a 'freedom of love'... but we should understand that freedom have responsibilites and we shouldn't destroy ourselves and the body that our parents gave us...
That said, unlike some other religions, we do not label and discriminate gays as 'sinful people' or such. We do not hold a sense of prejudice against them. But if it is possible we should try to encourage them to transform (but never never condemn them) -
Actually I don't quite agree with #2 and #4.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Yes. 'Sexual misconduct' refers to (according to Abhidharmakosha)...
Wrong partner-- a married person, a minor, someone in a relationship, an incompetent.
Wrong time -- day time
Wrong place -- in public, in shrine, etc.
Wrong orifice -- oral, anal.
I feel that it does not matter what time of the day and which orifice a committed, loving couple chooses to have and use in sex as long as it brings them mutual pleasure.
The important thing is not to be too carried away in the sensuality of the flesh and to neglect cultivation and purification of the mind. -
sex must do at nite ?
when is the correct time ?
oral and anal are wrong , that I agree . -
I'm a buddhist. However, i'm not entirely sure of what Buddha has said about people with unique sex orientation.Originally posted by hanbyul88:may i know is doing oral XXX and anal XXX consider (Xie yin) in wu jie?. Also is homo or bisexual a sin? I have read some forum it says no while says say yes? There is one buddhism who says no too in therveda or what ??? anyone verify?
Thanks you
I don't think being a Homo and a Bisexual is a "sin".
I don't think buddhism condemn gays, lesbian and bisexual as a "sin".
Lust in here, does not differentiate in sexual orientation. Common sense here.
Due to society's influence and psychoing, we reject bi and homo as MORALLY wrong.
Lusting for a BOY-BOY or Girl-Girl or BOTH could be due to past karma. For example, in the case of a lesbian, one has been reborn as a boy for many lifetime and is presently reborn as a girl. Thus ( the Ex-man ) habitual tendency to like a girl is there. Some turn gay due to the lack of faith in a hetersexual relationship. Plently of theories here.. WHY.
Why buddhist should avoid being involved in a homosexual relationship is that, Lust, like other defilements only bring suffering. It is lust that bring us back to this Samsara. (to be reborn in this world again and again due to our attachment to physical pleasure)
We can see the problems created by mr/ms Lust. Rape, murders, pre-marriage sex that lead to unwanted pregancies, suffering created due to lusting for someone u can't have ( delusion ) ETC.
It is difficult to be a bi and homo in the present society. There are many barriers to overcome. Marriage, family and friend's acceptance etc. Being a gay is hard.... can u stop urself from creating negative karma by having unwholesome thought arising in you ? ( In short, internally and externally responsive to hostile environment and people for yoursexual orientation.. yes there is creating bad karma )
Chasing Lust. dream of wealth. Love. achievement. status. Beauty. is like chasing dream. -
You watched Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring again?Originally posted by Isis:I'm a buddhist. However, i'm not entirely sure of what Buddha has said about people with unique sex orientation.
I don't think being a Homo and a Bisexual is a "sin".
I don't think buddhism condemn gays, lesbian and bisexual as a "sin".
Lust in here, does not differentiate in sexual orientation. Common sense here.
Due to society's influence and psychoing, we reject bi and homo as MORALLY wrong.
Lusting for a BOY-BOY or Girl-Girl or BOTH could be due to past karma. For example, in the case of a lesbian, one has been reborn as a boy for many lifetime and is presently reborn as a girl. Thus ( the Ex-man ) habitual tendency to like a girl is there. Some turn gay due to the lack of faith in a hetersexual relationship. Plently of theories here.. WHY.
Why buddhist should avoid being involved in a homosexual relationship is that, Lust, like other defilements only bring suffering. It is lust that bring us back to this Samsara. (to be reborn in this world again and again due to our attachment to physical pleasure)
We can see the problems created by mr/ms Lust. Rape, murders, pre-marriage sex that lead to unwanted pregancies, suffering created due to lusting for someone u can't have ( delusion ) ETC.
It is difficult to be a bi and homo in the present society. There are many barriers to overcome. Marriage, family and friend's acceptance etc. Being a gay is hard.... can u stop urself from creating negative karma by having unwholesome thought arising in you ? ( In short, internally and externally responsive to hostile environment and people for yoursexual orientation.. yes there is creating bad karma )
Chasing Lust. dream of wealth. Love. achievement. status. Beauty. is like chasing dream. -
That korean buddhist movie is nice !!!!Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:You watched Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring again? -
can this be a koan?Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:You watched Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring again?
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Thanks, mention this movie with its connection to Zen and sexuality.Originally posted by goldevil:That korean buddhist movie is nice !!!!