4 Noble Truths
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A lot of People thought 4 Noble Truth is so simple
but when Buddha spoke to the 5 bhikkhu of the Sangha after He attained Enlightenment ,the Four Noble Truth is more sophiscated than one seen
He said to the five Bhikkhu , Thus is the Truth of Suffering , thus one have know , thus one should sever ,thus is the Cause of Suffering , thus one have know , thus one should sever,thus is the Truth of the End of Suffering , ,thus one have know ,thus one should sever, thus is the Truth to the cause of end of suffering ,thus have know ,thus one should practise
that is the 3 turnings of the Wheel
Suffering - the Fruition to the Worldly Existence
Cause of Suffering - the Cause of our Worldly Existence
End of Suffering - the Fruition to Out of the Worldly Existence
Truth of End of Suffering -the Cause of out of the Worldly Existence -
Originally posted by bohiruci:A lot of People thought 4 Noble Truth is so simple
If it was so simple, the world would have come to an end.
but when Buddha spoke to the 5 bhikkhu of the Sangha after He attained Enlightenment ,the Four Noble Truth is more sophiscated than one seen
The first sermon (about Suffering) Buddha gave (after attaining Enlightenment) was to an ascetic on his way to Varanasi not to the 5 bhikkhu (the sangha was not formed yet!): "This is such a subtle teaching. I cannot possibly convey in words what I have discovered so I will not teach. I will just sit under the Bodhi tree for the rest of my life." -
So according to TGE 's ideals, the 4 noble truths are not truly true.Originally posted by TheGoodEarth: -
No, you have a serious problem with understanding my post. Either my English is too powderful or yours is RUB-bish.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:So according to TGE 's ideals, the 4 noble truths are not truly true.
Nowhere did I state that the 4 Noble Truth is not true. If you really want to know my IDEALS - my ideal is for people in this world to use more of their brains - THINK, THINK and THINK. Not just open mouth and anyhow talk. By all means speak up, but don't open your mouth and show the world how stupid you are.
My other IDEAL is that people should not be PRETENTIOUS. It is one thing to be nice and another to be unpleasant. Just bcos one tells you, you are wrong or mistaken doesn't mean he is not nice.
My previous post is to correct a mistake by TS - not what you mistakenly conclude. -
Wrong, your English is so horrible that you purposefully and willfully miscontrue the context of the threadstarter. So please read carefully before you start lambasting people.Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:No, you have a serious problem with understanding my post. Either my English is too powderful or yours is RUB-bish.
Nowhere did I state that the 4 Noble Truth is not true. If you really want to know my IDEALS - my ideal is for people in this world to use more of their brains - THINK, THINK and THINK. Not just open mouth and anyhow talk. By all means speak up, but don't open your mouth and show the world how stupid you are.
My other IDEAL is that people should not be PRETENTIOUS. It is one thing to be nice and another to be unpleasant. Just bcos one tells you, you are wrong or mistaken doesn't mean he is not nice.
My previous post is to correct a mistake by TS - not what you mistakenly conclude.
Next, I am of the view that the 4 noble truths are not true to all context and therefore should not be generalised as so. -
4 Noble Truths are true for everyone. All unenlightened beings will suffer due to dualistic views.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Wrong, your English is so horrible that you purposefully and willfully miscontrue the context of the threadstarter. So please read carefully before you start lambasting people.
Next, I am of the view that the 4 noble truths are not true to all context and therefore should not be generalised as so. -
hahahha, your RUB-bish is so good that you can't even find a word from my post that said the Four Noble Truth is not true. You are the one who purposely and wilfully mis-con-true the context of TS.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Wrong, your English is so horrible that you purposefully and willfully miscontrue the context of the threadstarter. So please read carefully before you start lambasting people.
Next, I am of the view that the 4 noble truths are not true to all context and therefore should not be generalised as so.
So please read my post carefully. But if you want to RUB, RUB - no problem - try me. I can give as good as I take.
Whether you believe/or not believe in the 4NT in whatever context - true or otherwise; is not and never will be my concern. You are at liberty to debunk, demolish it - but please don't do with a half-brain.
Maybe you should tell us (with your full brain) why you think the 4NT is not true. Then for sure I won't miscon-true! -
All beings will suffer from both dualistic and monolistic views.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:4 Noble Truths are true for everyone. All unenlightened beings will suffer due to dualistic views. -
That why's you must look at TGE's views.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:All beings will suffer from both dualistic and monolistic views. -
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Oh yes certainly, all SENTIENT beings suffer from dualistic views, and sufferings, etc.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:All beings will suffer from both dualistic and monolistic views.
But those who follow the 4 noble truths will be led to Liberation from all such dualistic views, and thus liberation from all suffering. Such a person is no longer a sentient being but a liberated saint.