Lust arises due to electro-chemical responses in the brain, so enough said as there's no proof from you.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Lust is empty and is not stored or hiding anywhere. It arises due to the aggregation of causes and conditions. If there is still defilements, one will not overcome it even in death.
There is no way to proof that lust is NOT conditioned arising and empty.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Lust arises due to electro-chemical responses in the brain, so enough said as there's no proof from you.
It is also erroneous that you think without your brain.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:There is no way to proof that lust is NOT conditioned arising and empty.
And also erroneous to reduce mind to brain waves, as I have posted many articles on that before.
In my opinion, the arising of lust consist of both physical aspect and spiritual aspect, they are inter-influencing.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:[url]What constitute a lustful thought? I believe that it is the chemical and electrical reactions from the human brain that creates the effect of lusting. Remove the portions of the brain that creates the chemical and electrical effect and lust will be permenantly removed. That is the only fool-proof way never to again lust due to concious or unconcious action.
Brain is a vital organ so we need it to function. Just that we cannot reduce consciousness to brain.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:It is also erroneous that you think without your brain.
So you don't think with your brain.....Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Brain is a vital organ so we need it to function. Just that we cannot reduce consciousness to brain.
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:So you don't think with your brain.....
Yes but like Thusness said, we must not see karmic propensities as an entity hiding/stored somewhere.Originally posted by Isis:Lust is a deeply ingrained habit in our 8th house consciousness?
As lust is empty so humans are empty of all inherent thought.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Yes but like Thusness said, we must not see karmic propensities as an entity hiding/stored somewhere.
When there is the aggregation of causes and conditions, lust arises. Lust is itself empty, bcos it is conditioned arising.
Perhaps Thusness can elaborate for us...
Wrong. Humans are not 'empty of all inherent thoughts', all thoughts are empty of inherent existence.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:As lust is empty so humans are empty of all inherent thought.
isn't lust a thought?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Wrong. Humans are not 'empty of all inherent thoughts', all thoughts are empty of inherent existence.
Yes.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:isn't lust a thought?
Thai Buddhist monk cuts off penisOriginally posted by Meow_Meow_Meow:cut off your dick lor
Now at that time a certain monk, tormented by dissatisfaction, cut off his own male organ. They told this matter to the Lord. He said: "This foolish man, monks, cut off one thing when another should have been cut off. Monks, one should not cut off one's own male organ. Whoever should cut it off, there is a grave offence.""This foolish man, monks, cut off one thing when another should have been cut off." - 'another' refers to the attachment, defilements and fetters
(Vinaya Piṭaka, Mahāvagga 110. Horner trans.)
Then removing it is also removing a person's original character.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Yes.
Why?Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Then removing it is also removing a person's original character.
Because lust is part and parcel of human nature and thus cannot be truly removed without damaging the human brain. It is like drawing a blade and trying to cut a stream of water. Yes, discipline aids oneself in controlling the lustful thoughts but sooner or later people will fall prey to it.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Why?