Enlightenment in less than two hours
-
There are 11 videos but only six are showing on this page. You can find the other 5 videos when you click on "previous" button on the bottom of the page. Each video is about 9 minutes long.
Happy enlightenment and welcome to big mind!
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?p=r&user=BigMindNetwork&page=2 -
Interesting.. watched those videos b4. But I doubt everyone can get enlightened in two hours
-
If everyone can get enlightened in 2 hours ? then don't you think heaven will be over populated ? And do you think there will still be human in this world ? Common sense please .
-
i think TS is just joking.
Just laugh lah -
He is not joking. There is indeed the claim that people get enlightened after going through the process, an initial enlightenment. I do not think it will happen to everyone, though it is possible... but not very likely. (at least not 'less than two hours')Originally posted by airgrinder:i think TS is just joking.
Just laugh lah
But anyway really, when we watch a video or read a book about enlightenment, drop all expectations of something happening. The sutras have always said there is 'no attainment' (the idea of attainment is just the function of the illusory sense of self) That is just more ego in disguise of spiritual seeking. It is just a presently arising thought by no one... notice it as it arise.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:You are already in reality, whether you see it or not. Reality is what's here, now. Thus you're here now, too. You know all this already, from direct experience. You're not separated from Reality. It's not "out there" somewhere, but right here.
This provides us with the chance to wake up. You have this chance to wake up right now, in this moment, and in every moment. Thus enlightenment is already yours.
Most of us tend to think - and have been taught - that it's the other way around, that we've got to figure something out. But no. We don't need to fgure out our own experience; it's already here, firsthand.
You are already enlightened. All you've got to do is stop blocking yourself and get serious about attending to what's going on. You are not lacking a thing. You only need to stop blocking or interpreting your vision.
~ Buddhism Plain & Simple, Steve Hagen -
Enlightened people don't go to heaven, they transcend heaven if they are liberated from samsara.Originally posted by TWE:If everyone can get enlightened in 2 hours ? then don't you think heaven will be over populated ? And do you think there will still be human in this world ? Common sense please .
The goal of Buddhist is not to ascend to heaven, which is just another samsaric realm though higher. Nirvana transcends all samsaric realms. One who is liberated is no longer in the wheel of rebirth. And also, enlightened people are humans... they don't turn into angels or grow wings or necessarily have halos around their heads.
There are countless people who are enlightened since Buddha's lifetime, including many people in this forum. JonLS is also enlightened, btw.
He has spoken about his experiences in our forum previously.
(though not necessarily Buddhahood or complete liberation yet, as there are many stages... the arhat path has 4 stages of enlightenment, the bodhisattva path has 10)
In >I am already a good person, why must I practise dharma?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
and my previous post quite a long time ago:
Translation:
[b]The Best of the Best must still practice Buddhism
Q: I'm living without problems with clothes and food, I treat others well, others treat me well, my life is happy, why should I practice Buddhism?
A: You treat others well, others treat you well, your marriage's relationship is very well, life is happy, but there is something you cannot do and cannot say: "the present is very well, so I will not get sick, I will not die." We should know that to practice Buddhism, most importantly is to liberate from birth and death, seek liberation, open our wisdom, walk the Bodhisattva way, that is why we still have to practice Buddhism, learn (to be like a) Bodhisattva. Though your life is well, but you are now in the human realm, if you want it to be better, you can seek rebirth in heaven, for that you have to practice the 10 virtuous deeds and avoid doing any evil deeds. But to be further, though ascending to the heavens is better, it is not ultimate, for when your celestial blessings have finished, you will still fall, so how? We have to seek liberation, walk the Bodhisattva way, until attaining Buddhahood -- that is the best and most ultimate, that is why all worldly beings must practice Buddhism.[/b]
...What "circle" or "cycle of life and death" means in Buddhism, is that sentient beings are constantly being reborn in Samsara - the world of sufferings. They are always reborn again and again in the 6 realms of existence in samsara, according to their karma. Samsaric existence is full of pain and sufferings, even in the Human Existence we have to go through Birth, Ageing, Sickness and Death, and the eight distresses. But even if you are born in a royal family, or even in the celestial/heaven realms, samsaric pleasures are still disatisfactory because of its transiency/impermanence... and by attaching to these transient pleasures thinking they are real and truly existent, permanent, we create even more sufferings. We suffer as we do not know that all compounded phenomena are empty of inherent, permanent, separate existence... and that all arises out of conditions and are always transient. Therefore the Buddha taught that suffering and disatisfactoriness is a fundamental truth in life (i.e first noble truth), however he also teaches the cause of suffering and the solution (second, third, fourth noble truth), the path leading to the liberation from these sufferings.
Sentient beings cannot become liberated from samsara because they are tied down by the bondage of their ignorance and karmic propensities... due to an illusion of duality (means subject-object separation) or a false sense of self, sentient beings are constantly grasping on things and craving for samsaric pleasures and existence, thus undergoing never ending suffering. Not only are we being reborn lifetime are lifetime, we are constantly reborn moment after moment even in this very life. This is because of our illusion and attachment to our 'self' and our sentient thoughts (our identification and attachment to thoughts and things caused by ignorance), and the process of identification with a 'self' is continued without an ending until we attain insights and enlightenment. To gain these insights we have to practise the eightfold path in our lives.
So therefore in Buddhism, Buddha showed us the path leading to the complete ending of all sufferings, finding the abiding purity and bliss of Nirvana, to become liberated from the cycle of rebirth in Samsara. Buddha taught that the Buddhas of past and future all teach Buddhism as "avoid all evil, doing all good, and purifying the mind". Most religions only teach "avoid all evil and doing all good", but only Buddhism teaches about liberation and the purification of the mind. The problem with just "avoiding all evil and doing all good" is that as a result we accumulate a lot of good karma and avoid creating bad karma, meaning we can be reborn in the higher realms or even the celestial realms like the heavens, however we still cannot attain nirvana, we cannot be liberated from the cycle of samsara.. and our enjoyment in these higher realms are also limited and transient. Similarly as described just now even if our lives are very good, there is still bound to be unsatisfactoriness and sufferings.. if we cannot be liberated moment to moment. Therefore when we practise Buddhism, also we practise purification of the mind... through mindfulness we become aware of and disidentify from all our sentient thoughts, our habitual tendencies of the mind, the afflictive emotions and so on due to identification with a false sense of self, and the identification is also known as the false 'ego'. Our Buddha Nature is like a clear mirror, our pure awareness, which unfortunately is obscured from us because of a layer of dust, or mental defilements. Through Buddhism we clean the mirror of its defilements to reveal the clear bright mirror underneath. Therefore through practising Buddhism we gain insights into the nature of reality, the nature of our minds, our Buddha Nature, and through awakening from our delusions we find the nirvanic bliss of clarity and liberation from all sufferings in our lives... -
Ok nvm since you take my " heaven " literally , whatever then . What i trying to say is anyone ever wonder what if all the pple in this world were to be enlightened lets just give it 2 months lar . What will you think of the buddha realm ? First thing is it will make enlightenment so easy to get that pple wun bother to cherish it .
-
When you become enlightened, there is nothing as cherishing or not cherishing... Because there is no one and nothing to cherish. It's just seen through.Originally posted by TWE:Ok nvm since you take my " heaven " literally , whatever then . What i trying to say is anyone ever wonder what if all the pple in this world were to be enlightened lets just give it 2 months lar . What will you think of the buddha realm ? First thing is it will make enlightenment so easy to get that pple wun bother to cherish it . -
Buddha realm is not a physical dimension. When one attains Samyaksambuddhasa, that one extinguish from cycle of rebirth, though Mahayana would claimed that Buddha could appear in the Threefold World by the power of vow but that's another issue.Originally posted by TWE:Ok nvm since you take my " heaven " literally , whatever then . What i trying to say is anyone ever wonder what if all the pple in this world were to be enlightened lets just give it 2 months lar . What will you think of the buddha realm ? First thing is it will make enlightenment so easy to get that pple wun bother to cherish it .
Anyway I think it is the easiest thing that is most difficult to do. I remember playing a RPG, my hero character met this guy who is the greatest chef (in the game). His best dish is a sunny side up. The chef said something very true, which is it is the human who always like to make simply and easy things complicated which in turn confused themselves. Even in martial arts doctrine, the highest level is often seeking back to simplicity. Real martial arts experts don't have fight like the ones we watch on TV, with flips and eye-catchy moves. Real expert often finish his opponent in 1 to 2 simple moves like a straight punch or grapping technique (which is damn fast).
Sorry to have diverted, but I think the spiritual path is the same. If the belief that we all do have that Buddha-nature is indeed true, then what seperates us with the Buddhas are simply our deluded minds!
I haven't watch the youtube but probably it is possible that one could gain enlightenment withint two hours. But I will say that two hours is the results of the past conditions that one has been exposed too.
Literally speaking, Buddha gained His enlightenment at that split moment where a shooting star dash across the dawn sky. But THAT moment is the accumulation of the various experiences and knowledge that Buddha has acquired prior to the meditation under the bodh tree.
So it will depend how the 2 hour is define. -
Yes well said..Originally posted by yamizi:Buddha realm is not a physical dimension. When one attains Samyaksambuddhasa, that one extinguish from cycle of rebirth, though Mahayana would claimed that Buddha could appear in the Threefold World by the power of vow but that's another issue.
Anyway I think it is the easiest thing that is most difficult to do. I remember playing a RPG, my hero character met this guy who is the greatest chef (in the game). His best dish is a sunny side up. The chef said something very true, which is it is the human who always like to make simply and easy things complicated which in turn confused themselves. Even in martial arts doctrine, the highest level is often seeking back to simplicity. Real martial arts experts don't have fight like the ones we watch on TV, with flips and eye-catchy moves. Real expert often finish his opponent in 1 to 2 simple moves like a straight punch or grapping technique (which is damn fast).
Sorry to have diverted, but I think the spiritual path is the same. If the belief that we all do have that Buddha-nature is indeed true, then what seperates us with the Buddhas are simply our deluded minds!
I haven't watch the youtube but probably it is possible that one could gain enlightenment withint two hours. But I will say that two hours is the results of the past conditions that one has been exposed too.
Literally speaking, Buddha gained His enlightenment at that split moment where a shooting star dash across the dawn sky. But THAT moment is the accumulation of the various experiences and knowledge that Buddha has acquired prior to the meditation under the bodh tree.
So it will depend how the 2 hour is define. -
THAT moment is the accumulation of the various experiences and knowledge
Nice!!!! -
True true.. nicely put there.Originally posted by yamizi:Buddha realm is not a physical dimension. When one attains Samyaksambuddhasa, that one extinguish from cycle of rebirth, though Mahayana would claimed that Buddha could appear in the Threefold World by the power of vow but that's another issue.
Anyway I think it is the easiest thing that is most difficult to do. I remember playing a RPG, my hero character met this guy who is the greatest chef (in the game). His best dish is a sunny side up. The chef said something very true, which is it is the human who always like to make simply and easy things complicated which in turn confused themselves. Even in martial arts doctrine, the highest level is often seeking back to simplicity. Real martial arts experts don't have fight like the ones we watch on TV, with flips and eye-catchy moves. Real expert often finish his opponent in 1 to 2 simple moves like a straight punch or grapping technique (which is damn fast).
Sorry to have diverted, but I think the spiritual path is the same. If the belief that we all do have that Buddha-nature is indeed true, then what separates us with the Buddhas are simply our deluded minds!
I haven't watch the youtube but probably it is possible that one could gain enlightenment withint two hours. But I will say that two hours is the results of the past conditions that one has been exposed too.
Literally speaking, Buddha gained His enlightenment at that split moment where a shooting star dash across the dawn sky. But THAT moment is the accumulation of the various experiences and knowledge that Buddha has acquired prior to the meditation under the bodhi tree.
So it will depend how the 2 hour is define.
"we do not need to make things unnecessary complicated" hit a gong in me now. Sometime the mind has a habit of "drawing legs to the snake" you know.. and isn't this also due to lack of wisdom and a lack of awareness of what you are doing now.
i esp like the martial art zenness.. the highest form is actually back to simple. -
All that we can see is that they've gained enlightenment in 'two hours'. But we don't know what happened before that.Originally posted by JonLS:There are 11 videos but only six are showing on this page. You can find the other 5 videos when you click on "previous" button on the bottom of the page. Each video is about 9 minutes long.
Happy enlightenment and welcome to big mind!
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?p=r&user=BigMindNetwork&page=2
Just like how some people argued that the Buddha did not gain enlightenment in one lifetime.