dependent origination and middle way
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Wrong. You still have not provided me any credible real life examples of that.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:True nature: independent arising. -
Do you ever know what will happen in the future? Do you know what exactly happens in the past? Plenty of examples in history.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Wrong. You still have not provided me any credible real life examples of that. -
What has that got to do with this topic?Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Do you ever know what will happen in the future? Do you know what exactly happens in the past? Plenty of examples in history.
I am asking for an example of independent origination.
What happens in the past has all arisen due to dependent origination, so will everything in the future. -
Theory is that that which arise, this may not arise, that which does not arise, this may arise.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:What has that got to do with this topic?
I am asking for an example of independent origination.
What happens in the past has all arisen due to dependent origination, so will everything in the future. -
How many people are there living on Earth? Based on Chaos Theory, the change in air pressure from a butterfly flapping its wings or a human breathing may precipitate a hurricane on the other side of the world, so far, how many hurricanes have occured?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:What has that got to do with this topic?
I am asking for an example of independent origination.
What happens in the past has all arisen due to dependent origination, so will everything in the future. -
Butterfly is only one out of uncountable number of conditions necessary to produce a hurricane.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:How many people are there living on Earth? Based on Chaos Theory, the change in air pressure from a butterfly flapping its wings or a human breathing may precipitate a hurricane on the other side of the world, so far, how many hurricanes have occured? -
And I'm telling you your theory is wrong.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Theory is that that which arise, this may not arise, that which does not arise, this may arise.
So far until now, you have not given me any credible real life examples. -
The Butterfly Effect is one of the most credible examples but you are the skeptic now.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:And I'm telling you your theory is wrong.
So far until now, you have not given me any credible real life examples.
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The butterfly effect is a perfect example of dependent origination but apparently you don't understand how it works.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:The Butterfly Effect is one of the most credible examples but you are the skeptic now. -
Wrong, it is the perfect example of indepedent origination as all elements for a event to occur may be present but the event may or may not occur.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:The butterfly effect is a perfect example of dependent origination but apparently you don't understand how it works. -
Wrong, you will never know when are all elements for an event present because reality is not a fixed pattern order and yet does not mean no order.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Wrong, it is the perfect example of indepedent origination as all elements for a event to occur may be present but the event may or may not occur. -
Did I say no order at all?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Wrong, you will never know when are all elements for an event present because reality is not a fixed pattern order and yet does not mean no order.