Venerable's question left me dumbfounded...
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Who is selling "sutra"?
...mmm...will edit my post then because "nobody" is selling sutra!
Icchantika is selling sutra
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Can't blame me, I havn't read the word since primary school. Avici. okay.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Bullshi.t. You didn't even spell avici correctly. -
Actually there not much difference in all religion
Regardless Islamic/buddhist/chirstian or others
When we worship our god , usually we are looking up praying to the heaven.
I believe there only 1 heaven 1 god , but many different forms and own history so different people from different religion all worship the same heaven , but different way -
Basic thing like respect differences is pretty universal.
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Ah, but you mistook Buddhism as a run-of-the-mill theistic religion. There is no concept of a God in Buddhism, we do not believe in an all-mighty, all-powerful, creator and personal God.Originally posted by Unidentified:Actually there not much difference in all religion
Regardless Islamic/buddhist/chirstian or others
When we worship our god , usually we are looking up praying to the heaven.
I believe there only 1 heaven 1 god , but many different forms and own history so different people from different religion all worship the same heaven , but different way
Edit: BTW, are you a Bahai faith practitioner? -
No , why ?Originally posted by Beyond Religion:Ah, but you mistook Buddhism as a run-of-the-mill theistic religion. There is no concept of a God in Buddhism, we do not believe in an all-mighty, all-powerful, creator and personal God.
Edit: BTW, are you a Bahai faith practitioner? -
Buddhists do not believe in a God, and our aim is not heaven but liberation and bliss in the here and nowOriginally posted by Unidentified:Actually there not much difference in all religion
Regardless Islamic/buddhist/chirstian or others
When we worship our god , usually we are looking up praying to the heaven.
I believe there only 1 heaven 1 god , but many different forms and own history so different people from different religion all worship the same heaven , but different way
Nirvana, enlightenment, is attained here on Earth.
As my dharma friend wrote 9 years ago in a newspaper article (which I happen to find off the net):
“Buddhism is about daily life and awareness about ourselves, rather than promising us some promised land which we can’t see or feel. With Buddhism, we can find this-so called paradise in ourselves,” 21-year-old marketing graduate Colin Kwek says. -
Your post reminds me of the Bahai belief that all religion points towards the one and the same God.Originally posted by Unidentified:No , why ? -
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
I totally agreed the above quote! This is what i am looking for.......
“Buddhism is about daily life and awareness about ourselves, rather than promising us some promised land which we can’t see or feel. With Buddhism, we can find this-so called paradise in ourselves,” 21-year-old marketing graduate Colin Kwek says.[/b]
To all folks:
If we can explain the difference and which is the best of these 2 religion, we will not be what we are now. This have been since thousand years ago and before the religion war back in those days. I doubt in this forum, we can untie the knot.....
Let us focus and concentrate what we believe, be it buddhism or chritiainity, at the end, as long as it serve us good.
Try to be more open minded and maybe take a step back, you will see a bigger picture...... -
I tell Buddhists not to live in a lie??? are we willing to face the reality of life, reality of buddhadarmaOriginally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Sell sutra? I tell Buddhists not to live in a lie. -
I hope no one misunderstands the main intentions of this post. For Buddhists and myself personally, it has never been our intention to insist on an consensus of which is the best religion, and this applies to all other religions along with Buddhism. Christianity is mentioned in my post because of their very pro-active approach in trying to evangelise and convert people of any belief to their faith.Originally posted by bazi:I totally agreed the above quote! This is what i am looking for.......
To all folks:
If we can explain the difference and which is the best of these 2 religion, we will not be what we are now. This have been since thousand years ago and before the religion war back in those days. I doubt in this forum, we can untie the knot.....
Let us focus and concentrate what we believe, be it buddhism or chritiainity, at the end, as long as it serve us good.
Try to be more open minded and maybe take a step back, you will see a bigger picture......
To my present knowledge, Buddhist practitioners of the past and present, who live and practise Buddhism in different parts of the world, have not yet been recorded to engage in any religious wars with any religion in history.
It is ok for you to express your doubt in untying the knot. I personally don't think it will happen any time soon either, at least for many generations to come. But speaking for myself as a Buddhist, this is one of my goals and I hope to see myself contributing in some way to inter-religious understanding, mutual respect and trust among all, religious members or not. -
Totally agreed. I only use some religious war as an example....Originally posted by Spnw07:I hope no one misunderstands the main intentions of this post. For Buddhists and myself personally, it has never been our intention to insist on an consensus of which is the best religion, and this applies to all other religions along with Buddhism. Christianity is mentioned in my post because of their very pro-active approach in trying to evangelise and convert people of any belief to their faith.
To my present knowledge, Buddhist practitioners of the past and present, who live and practise Buddhism in different parts of the world, have not yet been recorded to engage in any religious wars with any religion in history.
It is ok for you to express your doubt in untying the knot. I personally don't think it will happen any time soon either, at least for many generations to come. But speaking for myself as a Buddhist, this is one of my goals and I hope to see myself contributing in some way to inter-religious understanding, mutual respect and trust among all, religious members or not.
Nice to hear that you have such a ambitious goal, really envy you. For me, I try to fulfil this 3 steps, "An Jia", "Zhi Guo", "Ping Tian Xia".....
Btw, I am a Buddhist too. -
Wisdom ? sound more like stupid !!!Originally posted by Spnw07:Why do you young people like to turn to Christianity?
Why people turn to buddism - ask that and they will know why people turn to christianity...!!!
If cannot even understand why they turn to buddhism and why they become monk ... themselves, then how can they understand others. -
Seriously, I know it is very laughable in the eyes of others and fellow Buddhists, for I'm just a beginner and what's more important is I'm not even sure I can do it; for I lack far too many virtues and soft skills required to achieve this goal. So treat it as just a mere personal and honest expression of one of those deep wishes that resides in my heart for the time being.Originally posted by bazi:Totally agreed. I only use some religious war as an example....
Nice to hear that you have such a ambitious goal, really envy you. For me, I try to fulfil this 3 steps, "An Jia", "Zhi Guo", "Ping Tian Xia".....
Btw, I am a Buddhist too.
Personally, I feel that your wish to fulfill the above 3 steps is quite commendable and meaningfully ambitious. If done with the right intentions and implemented with wisdom and compassion, your 3 steps will benefit many people on earth, transcending all cultural, racial and religious boundaries.
I wish you all the best in trying to achieve the 3 steps. Take care, Amituofo! ^_^ -
No lah, its not laughable... its commendable that you are aware of your own limitations and (more importantly) working to improve yourself.Originally posted by Spnw07:Seriously, I know it is very laughable in the eyes of others and fellow Buddhists, for I'm just a beginner and what's more important is I'm not even sure I can do it; for I lack far too many virtues and soft skills required to achieve this goal. So treat it as just a mere personal and honest expression of one of those deep wishes that resides in my heart for the time being.
Personally, I feel that your wish to fulfill the above 3 steps is quite commendable and meaningfully ambitious. If done with the right intentions and implemented with wisdom and compassion, your 3 steps will benefit many people on earth, transcending all cultural, racial and religious boundaries.
I wish you all the best in trying to achieve the 3 steps. Take care, Amituofo! ^_^
This is also something I am still trying to do. For example, I've been working on improving my patience, especially when I am driving
. I am an extremely impatient driver, so I hang a small Guanyin pendant by my rear view mirror. When I feel frustrated or impatient, I will touch that pendant and lets its aura of peace and tranquility flow through my body. -
Hey there, thanks for your encouragement. I identify with you on being impatient too. I too am extremely impatient or easily feel frustrated towards many aspects of my life.Originally posted by Beyond Religion:No lah, its not laughable... its commendable that you are aware of your own limitations and (more importantly) working to improve yourself.
This is also something I am still trying to do. For example, I've been working on improving my patience, especially when I am driving . I am an extremely impatient driver, so I hang a small Guanyin pendant by my rear view mirror. When I feel frustrated or impatient, I will touch that pendant and lets its aura of peace and tranquility flow through my body.
Hope one day you will be able to find the inner peace that resides in your Buddha nature and this long-lasting peace will not only benefit you, but all who comes into contact with you as well.
Take care. Namo Guan Zi Zai Pusa. -
when i was 14 yrs old my neighbour's brother brought me to attend a one week church camp with my father's permission; thereafter, another week in their christian's environment home living life as a christian. Nothing came out of it.Originally posted by Spnw07:Why do you young people like to turn to Christianity?
I was caught dumbfounded at the moment. I had some views of my own on that since I think about this question constantly. However, I was caught by surprise and I knew I didn't know how to frame my answers well enough to let the Venerable understand.
What's more, who am I to speak for young people of today? I may be a young adult, but that doesn't mean I know more than anybody else the mentality of young people when choosing between Christianity and Buddhism. I also know too little about the two religions to offer an educated and objective reply.
our basically taoist family, not really staunch, can accept others' religion. Its just the way of ppl practising them. I feels that in order to knows more of others' religions,you must be in it.
i have many buddhist friends and they can really enlightened some of my questions. They told me that Buddha did not promise anything, buddhist practise 5 precepts etc...some religion promise heaven and hell
i am still in learning of the buddhist ways and cannot be said that i am a really a buddhist yet or was taoist, christian...as i am still in a mundane world with worldy desires
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Originally posted by Beyond Religion:
No lah, its not laughable... its commendable that you are aware of your own limitations and (more importantly) working to improve yourself.
This is also something I am still trying to do. For example, I've been working on improving my patience, especially when I am driving . I am an extremely impatient driver, so I hang a small Guanyin pendant by my rear view mirror. When I feel frustrated or impatient, I will touch that pendant and lets its aura of peace and tranquility flow through my body.
Hi Beyond religion & Spnw07,Originally posted by Spnw07:Hey there, thanks for your encouragement. I identify with you on being impatient too. I too am extremely impatient or easily feel frustrated towards many aspects of my life.
Hope one day you will be able to find the inner peace that resides in your Buddha nature and this long-lasting peace will not only benefit you, but all who comes into contact with you as well.
Take care. Namo Guan Zi Zai Pusa.
To me, no ambition or aims is laughable...... as long as it benefits you and others.
I have a very good way to train your patient.... maybe you can learn "shu fa", chinese calligraphy. This art will not only train your patient but also enlighten you of many aspects of life.
I am very glad that I can share my knowledge and experience with you and most importantly learn from you.... I hope everything will go smoothly for you and may Buddha bless you 2.
Nan Mo Di Zhang Wang Pu Sa
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Your input as a taoist but in the process of learning Buddhism is valuable to me. Especially your example of having experienced Christian camp and living life as a Christian there. Usually most would have converted during or after the camp. So this gives me the impression something might have happened while you were in the camp. Either they had not yet approached you to challenge your present beliefs in a group or personal talk or maybe you had your own strong values which kept you on track. There are many possible reasons and I don't wish to speculate further as a form of respect to you.Originally posted by dragon_stone:when i was 14 yrs old my neighbour's brother brought me to attend a one week church camp with my father's permission; thereafter, another week in their christian's environment home living life as a christian. Nothing came out of it.
our basically taoist family, not really staunch, can accept others' religion. Its just the way of ppl practising them. I feels that in order to knows more of others' religions,you must be in it.
i have many buddhist friends and they can really enlightened some of my questions. They told me that Buddha did not promise anything, buddhist practise 5 precepts etc...some religion promise heaven and hell
i am still in learning of the buddhist ways and cannot be said that i am a really a buddhist yet or was taoist, christian...as i am still in a mundane world with worldy desires
I wholeheartedly agree with you that in order to know more of others' religion, you have to be in it. To see and experience things from their point of view.
All the best, dear friend. Whichever religion you ultimately choose to believe and practise, as long it teaches you to love and care for others like you do for your loved ones and yourself, you will definitely do well in life.
Take care. -
In taoism, there are rites and ceremonies and i cannot possibly comprehend all of them. I also learnt of filial piety, way of life, sanzijing etc...Originally posted by Spnw07:All the best, dear friend. Whichever religion you ultimately choose to believe and practise, as long it teaches you to love and care for others like you do for your loved ones and yourself, you will definitely do well in life.
Take care.
In buddhism, i learnt of compassion, cause and effect, loving-kindness etc...
And i hope to be an even better person with the basic universal knowledge which some of us take them for granted.