How to realise the Buddha nature? Please help me! I will very grateful! Thanks.
Do not fall into the wrong understanding that the one asking is your original face.
Do not wrongly identify the pure sense of you as the YOU.
Do not wrongly perceive the thinker, the knower, the eternal witness as buddha nature.
Do not think such experience of the 'pure I AM' as ultimate.
Clear our mind completely of these misunderstandings and misperception.
This is the first step.
wah so chim
Originally posted by kumangal:wah so chim
Thats why must see conditions... see the person's experience and understandings. You see, dharma is not fixed dharma... (fa wu ding fa, ding fa fei fa) one should only speak and write based on conditions. When "maggot" suggested something like learning about Shurangama Sutra I quickly told him that for you, I think it is better to start on beginner and more understandable books, because the condition is that that is most suitable. Because for starters it is best not to get confused.
I highly recommend you to grab some good Buddhist books that is more suitable for starters.. to learn more about Buddhism. If you take some of the free CDs from the Vihara you went for the Da Bei Can.. then you will certainly learn more about 'how to realise Buddha Nature'.
Originally posted by Canihelpyou02:How to realise the Buddha nature? Please help me! I will very grateful! Thanks.
Generally, one need to do the following:
1)Take Refuge
2)Have faith in buddha
3)Take precepts, mind your action and mind
4)Attend dharma talk, understand how to practice then start practicing everyday
As you progress further, pls remember.
1)Number one rule, all dharma are buddha's teaching, while you are practicing this dharma door (法门), you must not despise or lookdown on other method, else it will create very bad karma for you.
2)It is good to gain knowledge, but must apply it in life.
3)Progress means reduction in the 3 poisons, greed, hatred, ignorance. Become more compassion & wise, less wondering thoughts.
4)Join a buddhist group, discuss together, share your thoughts with them.
5)Don't expect to clear all your bad karma or even be enlightened overnight, we all live countless unenlightened lifes in the past. The fastest way to liberate from samsara is to practice correctly and step by step.
also, welcome to sgforums and buddhism forum, hope to see you more often. :)
I dont like speech and words.Worst is explaination? Because explaination cannot reach the Buddha nature.
Can any one explain water to me?
so,what is water?
To attain Your true self dont need any steps.There is even no door.
Originally posted by Canihelpyou02:I dont like speech and words.Worst is explaination? Because explaination cannot reach the Buddha nature.
Can any one explain water to me?
so,what is water?
To attain Your true self dont need any steps.There is even no door.
If no words can touch the essence why is there the question.
To know the pathless, see words and wordlessness as one.
Non-conceptuality is just the beginning, it is far from the totality of our marvelous nature's manifestation. Use words and engage in speeches, dirty your hands and walk on!![]()
Buddha Samantabhadra's Supplication
HO
All that appears and exists, all of samsara and nirvana,
Has one ground, two paths and two results.
It is the display of awareness and ignorance.
Through the aspiration of Samantabhadra
May all be fully awakened
In the citadel of the dharmadhatu.
The ground of all is uncomposed,
An inexpressible, self-arisen expanse
Without the names "samsara" and "nirvana."
If it is known, buddhahood is attained.
Not knowing it, beings wander in samsara.
May all beings of the three realms
Know the inexpressible ground.
I, Samantabhadra
Know naturally that ground
Without cause and condition.
I am without the defects of superimposition and denial of outer and inner.
I am unobscured by the darkness of mindlessness.
Therefore, self-appearance is unobscured.
If self-awareness remains in place
There is no fear even if the three-fold world is destroyed.
There is no attachment to the five desirables.
In self-arisen, non-conceptual awareness
There is no solid form or five poisons.
The unceasing lucidity of awareness
Is five wisdoms of one nature.
Through the ripening of the five wisdoms
The five families of the first buddha arose.
From the further expansion of wisdom
The forty-two buddhas arose.
As the display of five wisdoms
The sixty blood drinkers arose.
Therefore, ground-awareness never became confused.
As I am the first buddha,
Through my aspiration
May beings of samsara's three realms
Recognize self-arisen awareness
And expand great wisdom.
My emanations are unceasing.
I manifest inconceivable billions,
Displayed as whatever tames beings.
Through my compassionate aspiration
May all beings of samsara's three realms
Escape the six states.
At first, for bewildered beings
Awareness did not arise on the ground.
That obscurity of unconsciousness
Is the cause of bewildered ignorance.
From that unconsciousness
Emerged terrified, blurry cognition.
Self - other and enmity were born from that.
Through the gradual intensification of habit
Sequential entry into samsara began.
The five poisonous kleshas developed.
The actions of the five poisons are unceasing.
Therefore, since the ground of the confusion of beings
Is mindless ignorance,
Through the aspiration of myself, the buddha,
May all recognize awareness.
The connate ignorance
Is a distracted, mindless cognition.
The labeling ignorance
Is holding self and other to be two.
The two ignorances, connate and labeling,
Are the ground of the confusion of all beings.
Through the aspiration of myself, the buddha,
May the thick, mindless obscurity
Of all samsaric beings be dispelled.
May dualistic cognition be clarified.
May awareness be recognized.
Dualism is doubt.
From the emergence of subtle clinging
Coarse habit gradually develops.
Food, wealth, clothing, places, companions,
The five desirables and beloved relatives --
Beings are tormented by attachment to the pleasant.
That is mundane confusion.
There is no end to the actions of dualism.
When the fruit of clinging ripens,
Born as pretas tormented by craving --
How sad is their hunger and thirst.
Through the aspiration of myself, the buddha,
May desirous beings
Not reject the longing of desire
Nor accept the clinging of attachment.
By relaxing cognition as it is
May their awareness take its seat.
May they attain the wisdom of discrimination.
Through the emergence of a subtle, fearful cognition
Of externally apparent objects
The habit of aversion grows.
Coarse enmity, beating and killing are born.
When the fruit of aversion ripens,
How much suffering there is in hell through boiling and burning.
Through the aspiration of myself, the buddha,
When strong aversion arises
In all beings of the six states,
May it be relaxed without rejection or acceptance.
Awareness taking its seat,
May beings attain the wisdom of clarity.
One's mind becoming inflated,
An attitude of superiority to others,
Fierce pride, is born.
One experiences the suffering of disputation.
When the fruit of that action ripens
One is born as a god and experiences death and downfall.
Through the aspiration of myself, the buddha,
May beings with inflated minds
Relax cognition as it is.
Awareness taking its seat,
May they realize equality.
Through the habit of developed dualism,
From the agony of praising oneself and denigrating others,
Quarrelsome competitiveness develops.
Born as an asura, killed and mutilated,
One falls to hell as a result.
Through the aspiration of myself, the buddha,
May those who quarrel through competitiveness
Relax their enmity.
Awareness taking its seat,
May they attain the wisdom of unimpeded activity.
Through the distraction of mindless apathy,
Through torpor, obscurity, forgetfulness,
Unconsciousness, laziness and bewilderment,
One wanders as an unprotected animal as a result.
Through the aspiration of myself, the buddha,
May the light of lucid mindfulness arise
In the obscurity of torpid bewilderment.
May non-conceptual wisdom be attained.
All beings of the three realms
Are equal to myself, the buddha, in the all-ground.
It became the ground of mindless confusion.
Now, they engage in pointless actions.
The six actions are like the bewilderment of dreams.
I am the first buddha.
I tame the six types of beings through emanations.
Through the aspiration of Samantabhadra,
May all beings without exception
Be awakened in the dharmadhatu.
A HO
From now on whenever a powerful yogin
Within lucid awareness without bewilderment
Makes this powerful aspiration,
All beings who hear it
Will be fully awakened within three lives.
When the sun or moon is grasped by Rahu,
When there is clamor or earthquakes,
At the solstices or at the year's change,
If he generates himself as Samantabhadra
And recites this in the hearing of all,
All beings of the three realms
Will be gradually freed from suffering
And will finally attain buddhahood
Through the aspiration of that yogin.
From the Tantra of the Great Perfection Which Shows the Penetrating Wisdom of Samantabhadra, this is the ninth chapter, which presents the powerful aspiration which makes it impossible for all beings not to attain buddhahood.
Translated by Lama Yeshe Gyamtso and The Dzogchen Ponlop, Rinpoche.
© 1998 by Lama Yeshe Gyamtso and The Dzogchen Ponlop, Rinpoche.
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Originally posted by Canihelpyou02:How to realise the Buddha nature? Please help me! I will very grateful! Thanks.
www.realise_buddha_nature.com
If you still don't understand and need more explaination, and you can understand Chinese words, you may want to read these books:
http://www.quanxue.cn/CT_NanHuaiJin/ZongJingIndex.html
椤枷大义今释 �怀瑾
http://www.quanxue.cn/CT_NanHuaiJin/LengJiaIndex.html
etc...
But those are only theories... you have to find out the true meaning by yourself.
What happened after we realise the Buddha nature? Will we become superman?
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:If no words can touch the essence why is there the question.
To know the pathless, see words and wordlessness as one.
Non-conceptuality is just the beginning, it is far from the totality of our marvelous nature's manifestation. Use words and engage in speeches, dirty your hands and walk on!
Found this today:
Then the venerable Sariputra said to the goddess, "Goddess, how
long have you been in this house?"
The goddess replied, "I have been here as long as the elder has
been in liberation."
Sariputra said, "Then, have you been in this house for quite some
time?"
The goddess said, "Has the elder been in liberation for quite some
time?"
At that, the elder Sariputra fell silent.
The goddess continued, "Elder, you are 'foremost of the wise!' Why
do you not speak? Now, when it is your turn, you do not answer the
question."
Sariputra: Since liberation is inexpressible, goddess, I do not
know what to say.
Goddess: All the syllables pronounced by the elder have the nature
of liberation. Why? Liberation is neither internal nor external,
nor can it be apprehended apart from them. Likewise, syllables are
neither internal nor external, nor can they be apprehended anywhere
else. Therefore, reverend Sariputra, do not point to liberation by
abandoning speech! Why? The holy liberation is the equality of all
things!
Sariputra: Goddess, is not liberation the freedom from desire,
hatred, and folly?
Goddess: "Liberation is freedom from desire, hatred, and folly"
that is the teaching of the excessively proud. But those free of
pride are taught that the very nature of desire, hatred, and folly
is itself liberation.
~ Vimalakirti Sutra
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Originally posted by kamponggirl:烦��是��?
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Suffering is already always self-liberating...
But without the insights into non-duality one will never see it and will merely misunderstood it. (Therefore Thusness has warned me not to discuss on the subject of self-liberation)
Even so suffering is already always self-liberating... it is 'always so'.

http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2007/11/right-click-on-picture-then-click-show.html
(Right click on picture, then click Show Picture/Show Image to view picture in full)



"...And
with that, the entire world self-liberates, because there is simply no
"me" to expect anything of it, to make demands of it, to claim to know
how any of it works. Freed from the stranglehold of thought, freed from
the burden of "me and all my problems", there is a great ease which
permeates everything. Freed from goals and meanings, every moment is a
goal in itself, everything is intrinsically meaningful, because every
moment is all there is, or ever was. Freed from self-consciousness,
everything is permissible and consequences are not even possible. And
there may still be pain and anger and sadness, but this happens for
nobody, and so it doesn't matter anymore (since there's simply nobody here to whom it could possibly matter!). There's pain and anger and sadness, but they don't
belong to anyone. And so, since nobody is claiming them, they just
dissolve of their own accord, in their own time.
And everything being talked about here is already the case, for all of us (and yes, that includes "you", of course!).
Already, there is liberation. Already, there is freedom from it all.
Truly, right now, there is nothing more to attain. Thoughts arise,
sounds arise, sights arise, feelings in the body arise, but they always
already arise for nobody.
And this may be noticed, or it may
not; it really doesn't make a blind bit of difference. There's nobody
there to notice it, anyway. And nobody would "get" anything from
noticing this, even if they could...
~ Jeff Foster (do check his site, http://www.lifewithoutacentre.com/)
--------------
"...it
seems that lots of effort need to be put in -- which is really not the
case. The entire practice turns out to an undoing process. It is a
process of gradually understanding the workings of our nature that is
from beginning liberated but clouded by this sense of ‘self’ that is
always trying to preserve, protect and ever attached. The entire sense
of self is a ‘doing’. Whatever we do, positive or negative, is still
doing. Ultimately there is not-even a letting go or let be, as there is
already continuous dissolving and arising and this ever dissolving and
arising turns out to be self-liberating. Without this ‘self’ or ‘Self’,
there is no ‘doing’, there is only spontaneous arising.
"
~ our forummer, Thusness (source: Non-dual and karmic patterns)
"...When
one is unable to see the truth of our nature, all letting go is nothing
more than another from of holding in disguise. Therefore without the
'insight', there is no releasing.... it is a gradual process of deeper
seeing. when it is seen, the letting go is natural. You cannot force
urself into giving up the self... purification to me is always these
insights... non-dual and emptiness nature...."
~ Thusness
--------------
From
a pure insight practice point of view, you can’t ever fundamentally
“let go” of anything, so I sometimes wish the popularity of this
misleading and indifference-prod
Then the venerable Sariputra said to the goddess, "Goddess, how long
have you been in this house?"
The
goddess replied, "I have been here as long as the elder has been in
liberation."
Sariputra said, "Then, have you been in this house for quite some time?"
The goddess said, "Has the elder been in liberation for quite some time?"
At that, the elder Sariputra fell silent.
The goddess continued, "Elder, you are 'foremost of the wise!' Why do
you not speak? Now, when it is your turn, you do not answer the
question."
Sariputra: Since liberation
is inexpressible, goddess, I do not know what to say.
Goddess: All the syllables pronounced by the elder have the nature of
liberation. Why? Liberation is neither internal nor external, nor can
it be apprehended apart from them. Likewise, syllables are neither
internal nor external, nor can they be apprehended anywhere else.
Therefore, reverend Sariputra, do not point to liberation by abandoning
speech! Why? The holy liberation is the equality of all things!
Sariputra: Goddess, is not liberation the freedom from desire, hatred,
and folly?
Goddess: "Liberation is
freedom from desire, hatred, and folly" that is the teaching of the
excessively proud. But those free of pride are taught that the very
nature of desire, hatred, and folly is itself liberation.
~ Vimalakirti Nirdesa Sutra
-------------------
"Good sons, all hindrances are none other than ultimate enlightenment. Whether you attain mindfulness or lose mindfulness, there is no non-liberation. Establishing the Dharma and refuting the Dharma are both called nirvana; wisdom and folly are equally prajna; the method that is perfected by bodhisattvas and false teachers is the same bodhi; ignorance and suchness are not different realms; morality, concentration and wisdom, as well as desire, hatred and ignorance are all divine practices; sentient beings and lands share the same dharma nature; hell and heaven are both the Pure Land; those having Buddha-nature and those not having it equally accomplish the Buddha's enlightenment. All defilements are ultimately liberation. The reality-realms's ocean-like wisdom completely illumines all marks to be just like empty space. This is called 'the Tath�gata's accordance with the nature of enlightenment.' "
~ The Sutra of Perfect Enlightenment
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Suffering is already always self-liberating...
But without the insights into non-duality one will never see it and will merely misunderstood it. (Therefore Thusness has warned me not to discuss on the subject of self-liberation)
Even so suffering is already always self-liberating... it is 'always so'.
I have to agree with Thusness as well. I don't think everyone who reads extensively or not about the methods to achieve non-duality here or elsewhere will truly be able to achieve true non-duality by self-practice alone. Even with a teacher, it is not guaranteed, only that the chances are higher.
But I do agree suffering is always self-liberating, for it pushes us to find ways to achieve liberation.
My understanding about all dharma doors is that actually, in essence, all have the power to help its practitioners in both external and self aspects of cultivation.
For example, what most consider Pureland practice to be a other-power practice, is in essence, a balanced self-liberating and other-power dharma door at the same time.
For those practising Zen, it's a very, very direct method to achieve liberation, hence it is viewed by most as just self-liberating, but that doesn't mean it does not have its other-power aspect. It's just not easily observed to be so.
Hi AEN,
What I meant is there is no actual benefit in terms of practice before non-dual experience and insight into our emptiness nature. We cannot talk about self-liberating nature from a ‘dualistic’ and ‘inherent’ standpoint; at least from the perspective of Buddhism or from an experiential point of view. It is pointless to keep talking about it because it will only lead to misinterpretation and misunderstanding. However at certain point of our practice, the ‘already is’ is important because as what Longchen has expressed in his post:
“Yes, there are some challenging situations to non-dual presence. I will share it on the forum..
In my case, nondual is easier to experience when there are bodily movement. This is when i am walking or eating. The mind rest and just feeling the sensations.
However, when thinking kicks in... it is not so easy. This can be liken to a dog trying to bite its own tail. The habitual tendency to let go of these thoughts becomes the arising of the dualistic perception. 'Let go' becomes the very effort. and a loop cycle ensues. However, there are also time when the 'let go effort' drops and restfulness follows. ... and one wonders just how silly the 'let go' effort is. LOL.
The guess is that one must sustain a 'deeper' level of 'knowing' non-efforting.... that cannot be sought after.”
It is the very
insight of “already is” that will lead to ‘effortlessness’. Expression of 'what already is' is not to
proclaim about one’s insight or attainment but rather to bring across to
practitioner that the ‘key’, the ‘antidote’ to clear the ‘hurdle’ of
effortlessness of sustaining non-dual presence lies in the ‘already is’, i.e, after the right understanding of our
non-dual and non-inherent nature; and this understanding must take place in our inmost consciousness.
Originally posted by Spnw07:I have to agree with Thusness as well. I don't think everyone who reads extensively or not about the methods to achieve non-duality here or elsewhere will truly be able to achieve true non-duality by self-practice alone. Even with a teacher, it is not guaranteed, only that the chances are higher.
This is not what I meant.
What I meant was, from the experiential point of view, as Thusness has said, it is not useful to discuss or talk to much about self-liberation especially to beginners. Because without the insights into non-duality and emptiness, self-liberation will only be misunderstood.
Hence, when we guide beginners, we should guide them to experience the non-conceptual, symbolic-free realm, to touch/have a direct glimpse of his true nature, and also to guide him to have the right understanding of Anatta (no-self). Only when the insights of No-Self and Emptiness has sufficiently penetrated into his consciousness, can he begin to penetrate self-liberation. When self-liberation has completely penetrated into his consciousness totally, he will attain the effortless stage of Non-Meditation or Non-Practice, which is the 8th Bhumi.
It is important to note what I meant by self-liberation here, when I talk about self-liberation, Self-liberation does not mean that a self liberates himself or herself from delusorily valued thoughts or delusory experiences; what it means is that delusorily valued thoughts and delusory experiences liberate themselves spontaneously (which may take place in three main ways). (Source: http://eliascapriles.dzogchen.ru/self-liberation.pdf)
Originally posted by Spnw07:
But I do agree suffering is always self-liberating, for it pushes us to find ways to achieve liberation.
It is true that suffering serves as a condition for liberation and awakening... and many people were led to an awakening experience due to intense suffering.
Though, the term 'self liberation' I used here is somewhat different.
KATZ!
sky is blue,
tree is green,
How are you?
KATZ!
sky is blue,
tree is green,
How are you?
--- Dead quote.
Ant crawling on keyboard.
Behind screen.
Gone!
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:This is not what I meant.
What I meant was, from the experiential point of view, as Thusness has said, it is not useful to discuss or talk to much about self-liberation especially to beginners. Because without the insights into non-duality and emptiness, self-liberation will only be misunderstood.
Hence, when we guide beginners, we should guide them to experience the non-conceptual, symbolic-free realm, to touch/have a direct glimpse of his true nature, and also to guide him to have the right understanding of Anatta (no-self). Only when the insights of No-Self and Emptiness has sufficiently penetrated into his consciousness, can he begin to penetrate self-liberation. When self-liberation has completely penetrated into his consciousness totally, he will attain the effortless stage of Non-Meditation or Non-Practice, which is the 8th Bhumi.
It is important to note what I meant by self-liberation here, when I talk about self-liberation, Self-liberation does not mean that a self liberates himself or herself from delusorily valued thoughts or delusory experiences; what it means is that delusorily valued thoughts and delusory experiences liberate themselves spontaneously (which may take place in three main ways). (Source: http://eliascapriles.dzogchen.ru/self-liberation.pdf)
The thing is because one word in Buddhism has too many hidden or subtle meanings, it does not really help beginners. This will only cause most of them to 分别 and 执著。
The more terms that appear, more terms that are used to explain that term, the more we lead others further away from the Truth.
Because it is so hard to lead others to really understand Anatta, emptiness and the self-liberation (in terms of delusional thoughts and experiences liberating themselves spontaneously) by words alone to beginners, it's best we stick to explaining in more elaborate and practical terms what is compassion in both secular and Buddhist ways, how to show compassion and how to overcome anger. We can show by example why it is so necessary to show compassion and where it is so necessary to overcome anger from both a secular and Buddhist point of view.
Originally posted by Spnw07:The thing is because one word in Buddhism has too many hidden or subtle meanings, it does not really help beginners. This will only cause most of them to 分别 and 执著。
The more terms that appear, more terms that are used to explain that term, the more we lead others further away from the Truth.
Because it is so hard to lead others to really understand Anatta, emptiness and the self-liberation (in terms of delusional thoughts and experiences liberating themselves spontaneously) by words alone to beginners, it's best we stick to explaining in more elaborate and practical terms what is compassion in both secular and Buddhist ways, how to show compassion and how to overcome anger. We can show by example why it is so necessary to show compassion and where it is so necessary to overcome anger from both a secular and Buddhist point of view.
The real answer is that there is no real truth and it's all in your mind.