Dear forumers,
Happy lunar new year to all.
Have some questions that I need advise
Basically, I am a person with shizophrenia and I began to hear sounds roughly one year ago.
I couldn't control my thinking and I had evil thoughts in my mind.
My friends tell me its "Ye Zhang" and its my karma.
These evil thoughts include damaging Buddha statues, scolding Buddha, anyhow talking about Buddhism, hurting people They are only thoughts and I have not done any thing as the above.
I have just recovered and I began reciting the great compassion mantra roughly 6 months ago.
I found this forum and read that having these thoughts and scolding buddha in my heart will lead me to avinci hell.
May I know how do I save or do amendments to reduce the amount of karma. I don't wish to go to hell.
Now I am going to go for spiritual enlightenment. Can anyhow point me to how to practise?
Regards
Gump
Hi Gump,
Are you feeling physically weak or mentally tired most of the time? I need this info to have a better understanding of possible occurences.
Regards
Yes in the past, when I "talk" to the voices too much. I get very tired and I will tend to sleep. Nearly lost my job. These voices also said that I am a demon/devil and I am trying to "play"
Now I am better as I am taking my medication. The great compassion mantra saved me too. It reduced my evil thoughts
Thanksl ongchen
Hi Gump,
There is nothing to worry about. :)
Basically, try learning not getting caught up with these thoughts. These thoughts are like a game, samping your energy and confidence through the engagement of them.
These thoughts are powerless as long as they are regarded as such. Basically, they work on certain beliefs to create fear...
Also, can i suggest that you learn some energy building exercise to strengthen the 'energy field'.
Go to go. Talk to you some other time...
All the best !
Why is that so?
I am so worried about what those sounds say.
Can anyone enlighten me?
Thanks
Originally posted by Forrest_Gump:Why is that so?
I am so worried about what those sounds say.
Can anyone enlighten me?Thanks
Looking from a medical standpoint, the voices or noise as you say are part and parcel of your mind hallucinating. It sometimes sounds like sibilant whispering and giggling. It is a natural illness not caused by karma or anything else. Do not be fooled by anyone claiming that it can be controlled by willpower or thinking calm thoughts. The only way is to go to a psychiatrist and asked for medication and treatment.
Originally posted by Forrest_Gump:Why is that so?
I am so worried about what those sounds say.
Can anyone enlighten me?Thanks
Hi Gump,
My opinion is that since you have recovered you should just stop worrying about those sounds.
Worrying itself is the problem... don't you think so.
About enlightenment, may be you can find someone who is qualified to guide you. Our perception changes along the spiritual path. So what you understand now and what you may understand years later may be very different. And looking back, you may realise that worrying (at the time) isn't that helpful.
Originally posted by Forrest_Gump:Dear forumers,
Happy lunar new year to all.
Have some questions that I need advise
Basically, I am a person with shizophrenia and I began to hear sounds roughly one year ago.
I couldn't control my thinking and I had evil thoughts in my mind.
My friends tell me its "Ye Zhang" and its my karma.
These evil thoughts include damaging Buddha statues, scolding Buddha, anyhow talking about Buddhism, hurting people They are only thoughts and I have not done any thing as the above.
I have just recovered and I began reciting the great compassion mantra roughly 6 months ago.
I found this forum and read that having these thoughts and scolding buddha in my heart will lead me to avinci hell.
May I know how do I save or do amendments to reduce the amount of karma. I don't wish to go to hell.
Now I am going to go for spiritual enlightenment. Can anyhow point me to how to practise?
Regards
Gump
Hi ,Gump
based on what you say it is a internal demon in your mind
you need to start repenting and keep Reciting Om mani padm hum
Reciting Compassion Mantra is too long for u :)
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"Kwan Sin Fa Men" is perceive the mind.
Watch where the thought comes from? Same as our thinking mind,when we watch,it stop.Just like when you not aware,the thief will steal your things.When you watch or aware, they behave themselves.Take care my friend.
If reciting the Great Compassion Mantra brings you peace, then by all means continue with it.
I still have slanderous and doubtful thoughts about the Triple Gems and Dharma myself, Forrest Gump. I'm with you in this.
Do whatever you know is right at the moment. What is right is what brings peace and loving-kindness to yourself and others.
I am with you in this, so let's work hard together, okay?
Take care, Forrest. ^_^
I agree you should continue chanting, and practice awareness. Also see http://www.jenchen.org.sg/cultivat.htm regarding 'kuan xin'.
You may also want to practice sincerely repenting, it also helps in clearing karma. But one should do that consistently and regularly, wld be best if 108 times everyday with reciting and prostration. ( http://www.jenchen.org.sg/vol6no2c.htm )
Is the Sound Annoying You?
If people were trying to meditate and wanted to shut the world out, Ajahn Chah used to give them a very hard time. If he came across a nun or a monk who had barricaded the windows of their heart and was trying to block everything out, he would really put them through it. He drew in one monk of this type as his attendant for a while and he would never let him sit still. As soon as he saw the monk close his eyes to "go into meditation" he would immediately send him off on some errand. Ajahn Chah knew that cutting yourself off was not the place of true inner peace. This was because of his own years of trying to make the world shut up and leave him alone. He had failed miserably. Eventually he was able to see this is not how to find completion and resolution.
Years ago, when he was a wandering monk, living on his own on a mountainside above a village, he kept a strict meditation schedule. In Thailand they love outdoor, nightlong film shows because the nights are cool compared to the very hot days. Whenever there was a party, it tended to go on all night. About fifty years ago, public address systems were just starting to be used in Thailand and every decent event had to have a PA going. It was blasted as loud as possible all through the night. One time, Ajahn Chah was quietly meditating up on the mountain while there was a festival going on down in the village. All the local folk songs and pop music were amplified throughout the area. Ajahn Chah was sitting there, seething and thinking, "Don't they realize all the bad karma involved in disturbing my meditation? They know I 'm up here. After all, I'm their teacher. Haven't they learned anything? And what about the five precepts? I bet they're boozing and out of control," and so on and so forth.
But Ajahn Chah was a pretty smart fellow. As he listened to himself complaining, he quickly realized, "Well, they're just having a good time down there. I'm making myself miserable up here. No matter how upset I get, my anger is just making more noise internally." And then he had this insight: "Oh, the sound is just the sound. It's me who is going out to annoy it. If I leave the sound alone, it won't annoy me. It's just doing what it has to do. That's what sound does. It makes sound. This is its job. So if I don't go out and bother the sound, it's not going to bother me. Aha!"
As it turned out, this insight had such a profound effect that it became a principle that he espoused from that time on. If any of the monks displayed an urge to try and get away from people or stimulation—the world of things and responsibilities—he would tend to shove them straight into it. He would put that monk in charge of the cement-mixing crew or take him to do every house blessing that came up on the calendar. He would make sure that the monk had to get involved in things because he was trying to teach him to let go of seeing meditation as needing sterile conditions—to see, in fact, that most wisdom arises from the skillful handling of the world's abrasions.
Ajahn Chah was passing along an important insight. It's pointless to try to find peace through nullifying or erasing the sense world. Peace only comes through not giving that world more substantiality or more reality than it actually possesses.
http://www.thebuddhadharma.com/issues/2003/winter/ajahnamaro.html
Thanks guys.
I will start 拜佛 and 念佛 I and chant mantra.
I have tried to analyse where the sounds come from and it seems its all evil.
It distorts your thinking, distorts your reasoning, use fiction, turn your saying into false saying. Everything is non good.
But I don't care about them, what I care is that it seems that I have done quite an amount of bad karma in the past/now and I need to make amends.
I will follow what you guys teach me. Its good to know thats there is a buddhism forum in singapore and thank all of you all. I finally found a religion where I can self cultivate and reach for enlightenment.
Will do my best
Thanks!
Originally posted by Forrest_Gump:Can anyhow point me to how to practise?
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What is cultivation? Where do we practise cultivation? Let me tell you a story: More than twenty years ago, I took four years to cultivate as I travelled across the country. Step by step, I covered Taiwan by walking. Once when I was in Hua-Lian, an elderly Buddhist asked me, "Master! A monk should reside in the temple to meditate, pray and chant sutras, but when you travel about what are you cultivating? I replied, "That’s right! I am cultivating. Sakyamuni Buddha teaches us to cultivate our conduct. He does not encourage us to cultivate sitting down! In the past few years I had been practising sitting meditation, now I wish to travel about. While walking and also amidst all my other activities, I do not commit evil deeds, I chant the names of the Buddhas, I praise and commend others, I tell people about the Dharma, I avoid the places of vice, this is the way I cultivate." Thus, to cultivate means cultivating in the midst of our activities. This is a point that many people do not understand. They think that cultivation will result in a society that is pessimistic and low-spirited. This is a mistake. Jen Chen Buddhism advocates cultivating in the midst of our daily activities. Many retired old folks have no need to attend to household chores anymore, thus they can afford to spend their time to chant the names of the Buddhas and to cultivate in the midst of their leisure. However, there are many housewives who need to tend to their children, household chores and many other matters. How do you expect them to cultivate in their leisure? Thus, the need to cultivate in the midst of their activities; while cooking they could chant the names of the Buddhas and the Bodhisattvas. No matter what activities they are engaged in, it is always possible to cultivate. Instead of gossipping about our neighbours and friends or engaging in other frivolous talks, why not refrain from all these. This is cultivation. Therefore, only when we cultivate in the midst of our activities do we understand the meaning of cultivation. To cultivate in our leisure may cause others a lot of frustrations. For example, a husband may be upset because his wife neglects the household by spending too much time chanting or running from temple to temple. For her to introduce Buddhism to her husband, thus, would not be an easy task. If she understands the principle of cultivating in the midst of her activities, it would be acceptable to the husband. Should he be invited to places of vice, he would know how to turn them down because his wife is a diligent cultivator. Both husband and wife are then cultivating at the same time. There will be progress in our society when we understand the principle of cultivation. Otherwise, society will backslide. Over the last few decades, I have come to realize that we need to cultivate wherever we are. When we possess the correct concept of cultivation, any time is an appropriate time for cultivation, any place can be the place for us to seek enlightenment. If each and everyone of us conduct ourselves in this way, then the world will become a pure land. If we think that we can only cultivate in the temples, or that we cannot cultivate when we are working, then it is very possible that we commit evils deeds without even knowing. When we are with Buddha every moment, and cultivate constantly, then we are truly practitioners of Buddhism. As to when in the cultivation process does one awaken and what it is like to be awakened, only when you follow the guidance of the Dharma and put it into practice, will you know you have awakened: when you drink the water, only you know how warm or cold it is. |
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practising Buddhism means utilising Sundays, our rest days or daily, to pray or meditate
in temples. This perception is neither right nor wrong. We may be busy with our work and
other activities, but, Buddhism is best practised amid these activities. Should one be
totally inactive or free, what else is there to practise?
It is common to see people working and singing at the same time; machinists talking while working the machines; housewives working on their chores and exhorting their children at the same time; others work with their minds preoccupied with all sorts of other problems not related to their work. In short, they may be occupied physically, but mentally, their minds are not free or empty. As such, does learning and practising Buddhism really pose a problem to our heavy schedules? This is definitely not so. A verse from the "Seven Buddhas" reads: "Avoid all evils; do all that are good; purify one’s mind. These are the teachings of all Buddhas".
A commuter, when travelling in a train for example, may emulate the mental purity of the Buddha, and listen to the rumbling of the wheels and at the same time rythmically chant the name of the Buddha or Bodhisattva so that the mind does not wander. Naturally the mind will become pure and calm. Learning Buddhism means emulating the mental purity of the Buddha. Buddha is one who has already attained perfect enlightenment, sublime wisdom and blessings. On the other hand the commoner has lesser blessings and wisdom. Still, he would have made tremendous advancements if he merely practises Buddhism amid his daily activities to the extent that he attains purity in his bodily actions, speech and thoughts. Thus, no matter what we do, where we are or how busy we may be, we can still practise Buddhism. As long as we put this into practise, our wisdom will develop and our blessings will gradually grow. For this reason, Jen Chen Buddhism advocates practising amid the activities of our daily lives; practising without attaching to the notion of practice; maintaining awareness without attaching to the notion of awareness; and attaining without attaching to the notion of attainment. When we understand this principle and have no more confusions, we can be considered great practitioners of Buddhism. |
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most important practice for a Buddhist. We need to cultivate our conduct. Having resolved
to learn from the Buddha, we ought to follow the Buddha’s methods of cultivation and
practice.
Our each and every action is manifested physically, but these physical actions are initiated by our mind. Hence, "Cultivating our moral conduct is better than cultivating our actions. Cultivating our mind is better than cultivating our moral conduct. Maintaining non-origination of the mind is better than cultivating it." Cultivation means examining our conduct and eradicating conduct which are undesirable, for example, those that inflict suffering on ourselves or on others. When our conduct is moral and ethical, then our actions are naturally beneficial to ourselves and others. Thus, cultivating our moral conduct is better than cultivating our actions. Unethical or immoral actions, originate from an impure mind. Once these undesirable actions arecommitted, it is too late for cultivation. Thus, it is better to cultivate the mind. To cultivate the mind after the arising of impure thoughts is also too late. Thus, cultivating the mind is still not the ultimate, it is better to spontaneously cease the arising of such thoughts all together. Since there is no arising, then there is no cessation. The verse "Non-origination and non-cessation" as described in the Heart Sutra is really a simple matter!
Now, I neither raise nor put my hand down. When the mind does not give birth, there is no death. This is no-birth and no-death, or non-origination and non-cessation. The Buddhas exist in this world for the sake of liberating sentient beings from this process of birth and death. In this way we all know that non-origination and non-cessation refers to our mind and hence maintaining the mind as such is the proper way to cultivate. We should begin to cultivate from here. From cultivation, we acquire liberation, unfold our wisdom and widely follow the practices of all Bodhisattvas through aeons of countless births. In this way, we keep alive our hope of attaining the Supreme Enlightenment or Buddhahood. This is indeed so simple! Yet, so simple that you may not know, you may not believe and you doubt if you can actually do it. Whatever we are doing, be it walking, standing, sitting or sleeping, we only need to cultivate in this manner and maintain an unmoving keenness of our awareness. You may think that this is so simple and feel that you know all these very well. But, human beings are indeed intelligent and it is not easy for others to fool them. Yet, in a whole life time they are constantly deceived by themselves without ever knowing. In this world we speak of "nip in the bud" to eradicate a problem. Thus, to catch a thief, arrest his leader. In Buddhism, to cultivate our actions, first cultivate our mind. When we have our mind in control, we follow up by keeping it still. We know that "our mind is not moving", see that "our mind is not moving". The "know" and "see" mentioned here refer to our awareness. It is in this way that we maintain our awareness. I hope we all will practise and cultivate following this method. I have described the essence of the Dharma using simplest words, and when we practise as such we are with Buddha. At every moment, irrespective of our activities, be with Buddha. Jen Chen Buddhism advocates cultivating and being with Buddha amid all our activities, including walking, standing, sitting and sleeping. |
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beings and we all have a mind. We are frequently ‘deceived’ by our minds. For an
entire lifetime we are ‘deceived’ and ‘misled’ by our minds without
ever realizing it! If the mind is good, then of course, it is all very well. Such a mind
creates a good person; one can ascend to the heavens or one can perform a lot of virtuous
deeds. What happens if the mind is evil and becomes defiled? It can drag us to become
animals, ghosts and deities, or descend to hell. This is because our mind is not pure, and
therefore the world becomes a sea of suffering. This suffering world of ours is called the
"Saha World". It means having to endure and is also called the "World of
enduring sufferings".
If we all purify our minds, then the world becomes a heaven. Everybody is very happy and there is no suffering. In learning and practising Buddhism, the most important thing is to purify our minds. When we can purify our minds, then naturally there will be happiness in our world. To do that we have to observe the non-arising of the mind. This is called ‘contemplation of the mind’. When the mind is polluted, then we cleanse it with the dew of the Buddha. And when our minds have been purified, then they are the same as those of the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas. In this way, we will progress very quickly in our cultivation. Observing the mind is very simple. It is like watching out for the mouse. Everybody dislike mice because they steal our food or they damage our clothings. An idiom describes this sentiment with the phrase, ‘When the mouse crosses the street everybody goes after it.’ Obviously mice are not welcomed and they have to be dealt with. One method of dealing with it, is the cat. At the sight of a mouse, the cat puts his paws firmly on the ground and fixes its steely eyes on the mouse. On seeing the cat, the mouse trembles with fear, not daring to make even the slightest movement. Treat your mind as if it were a mouse and your awareness as the cat. At every moment observe your mind, in the same way as the cat watching the mouse. The mouse wants to live and hardly has time to think of its own safety, let alone of stealing food. If we can observe our minds, then we will hardly have time enough to treasure our wisdom life, let alone think of committing evil deeds. Therefore when we are learning and practising Buddhism, we need to learn to "contemplate the mind". In this way, we will very quickly be able to avoid all evils and do all that are good. "Avoid all evils; do all that are good; purify one’s mind. These are the teachings of all Buddhas". Besides avoiding all evils and doing all that are good, we need to purify our thoughts. When our thoughts have been purified, then the mind is pure. The purpose of learning and practising Buddhism is to purify the human mind. If the minds of everyone in the family is pure, then our home is pure; if the minds of everyone in this society is pure, then our society is pure; if the minds of everyone in the country is pure, then our land is pure; if the entire human race in the world is pure, then our world is as happy as the Western Pure Land. Our mind is like the stealthy mouse, ever watchful of a chance to creep out to commit evil deeds, and we are not even aware of that. I hope all of us will keep a cat to watch our minds, so that we can become Buddha quickly. |
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Originally posted by Forrest_Gump:I will follow what you guys teach me. Its good to know thats there is a buddhism forum in singapore and thank all of you all. I finally found a religion where I can self cultivate and reach for enlightenment.
Congrats to you ![]()
Hello Mr Gump,
I could suggest you.. to exercise to improve energy level.
and listent to dharma talks.
What is energy level ?
What is energy level?
HAH!
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Hi Ts,
Could there be a deep-rooted aversion within you ?
Chanting of mantra or sutra is another alternative that can calm mind and purfiy bad karma. ![]()
For one who is prone to angry or aversion, it is good that one practise metta meditation as it helps calm the mind from disturbing thought and purify bad karma..
The reason why i have said in my previous posting..
Listen to Dharma talk is because i feel that suffering is caused by our wrong view.
Originally posted by longchen:Hi Gump,
There is nothing to worry about. :)
Basically, try learning not getting caught up with these thoughts. These thoughts are like a game, samping your energy and confidence through the engagement of them.
These thoughts are powerless as long as they are regarded as such. Basically, they work on certain beliefs to create fear...
Also, can i suggest that you learn some energy building exercise to strengthen the 'energy field'.
Go to go. Talk to you some other time...
All the best !
Longchen, just curious, what kind of energy field exercise are we talking about ?
hmm i was watching discovery channel. they had this documentary and they shows a study where they conducted a test on a series of normal ppl, and a series of ppl with mental illness.
they discovered that there was a physical wasting away of the brain, which removed some functions those parts were responsible for controlling.
like they did a brain scan of a normal person. when that person talks, the brain had a slight surge of activity right before the person talks. they deduce that the brain was informing the person that he was about to talk, and the voice belongs to him.
but for a person with mental illness. this slight surge of activity didn't occur when the person talks. so they deduce that it might be because of this, that's why they keep hearing voices. they didn't know that these thoughts and voices came from their mind.
forest-gump- did you ask your evil self where this is going? Well i listen and became the voice. Scolding the buddha! ha dont worry i did that a million time and after that i feel better, guess thats his way of caring-come vent it out.
You are only afraid of the voice. Dont be, well do i sound like the voice???
BTW i know no hell and that's scary
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Originally posted by distorted:BTW i know no hell and that's scary
ha ha ha
There certainly is hell and 6 realms and karma.