As a Buddhist , I think Dalai Lama is Justified in not using violent to gain back independence of Tibet
As Religious Head of Tibet , He holds the title which represent the embodiment of Avalokiteshvara .He action will set bad example for future of Buddhist growth in the whole world
Buddhism have in history never lead a war to spread their teachings in Asia . It never will , and it should never should .
Let us Resolve a prayer for the oppressed Tibetan and may the merit Accrued help the Tibetans , the tibetan Religous establishment and millions of tibetan refugees the whole world

Om Mani Padme Hum
Regarding this, I received a mail yesterday:
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Hi,
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http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/98.php/?cl_tf_sign=1
After nearly 50 years of Chinese rule, the Tibetans are sending out a global cry for change. But violence is spreading across Tibet and neighbouring regions, and the Chinese regime is right now considering a choice between increasing brutality or dialogue, that could determine the future of Tibet and China.
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Just my thoughts...
it is sad what can be seen in the media that the monks and the tibetans are destroying everything in their paths. You can see that the monks were destroying bus stop sign and also shops gates...and Buddhism taught us to be tolerance and I also wonder what will their karma towards these damages...
I am not supporting China or Tibet, but China being a communist country has, in a way, let the people practise their religions freely.
Religions and politics should not mixed. Religions should be borderless...
China government word is poison ,a poison that will inflicted back to them for centuries to come
The Buddha said in one sermon ,"If you spit into the air when face up, the saliva will drop back onto your whole face"
whatever cruel kind of brainwashing and genocide only leads to one result - generation and generations of suffering as a result of intently and wilfully destroying a Holy Lineage of Buddhism
Karma knows no emotion , it strike when time is ready and does not give regards what kind of power and fame one holds
Originally posted by bohiruci:As a Buddhist , I think Dalai Lama is Justified in not using violent to gain back independence of Tibet
As Religious Head of Tibet , He holds the title which represent the embodiment of Avalokiteshvara .He action will set bad example for future of Buddhist growth in the whole world
Buddhism have in history never lead a war to spread their teachings in Asia . It never will , and it should never should .
Let us Resolve a prayer for the oppressed Tibetan and may the merit Accrued help the Tibetans , the tibetan Religous establishment and millions of tibetan refugees the whole world
Om Mani Padme Hum
I have mixed views on this issue. On one hand, I sympathize Tibet and wholly support the Dalai Lama in his vow of non-voilence, but I am utterly dissappointed in the behavour of the Tibetans. They have a reputation of being spiritually elevated as compared to the rest of the world, but now they are behaving like a bunch of common thugs. I am even more appalled by the behavour of the Tibetan monks. As members of the Sangha, they should be the embodiment of Buddha's teaching. They should not go around smashing, destroying and looting. On the other hand, I also understand the hard stance adopted by the Chinese government. They cannot afford to allow Tibet independence, for if they do so, XinJiang, Taiwan etc. will follow suit. I just hope and pray that this entire episode will be resolved peacefully.
Originally posted by Beyond Religion:I have mixed views on this issue. On one hand, I sympathize Tibet and wholly support the Dalai Lama in his vow of non-voilence, but I am utterly dissappointed in the behavour of the Tibetans. They have a reputation of being spiritually elevated as compared to the rest of the world, but now they are behaving like a bunch of common thugs. I am even more appalled by the behavour of the Tibetan monks. As members of the Sangha, they should be the embodiment of Buddha's teaching. They should not go around smashing, destroying and looting. On the other hand, I also understand the hard stance adopted by the Chinese government. They cannot afford to allow Tibet independence, for if they do so, XinJiang, Taiwan etc. will follow suit. I just hope and pray that this entire episode will be resolved peacefully.
i agree very much.I don't understand Dailai a lot,so i cannot comment ,but maybe he is trying to grab more power for himself not for the happiness of the Tibetan , tibet may be the last resort of people spiritual home.But actually it is pooriest province in the country.For ppl declare that material is not important ,but actually for ppl like us material is important ,for a lot of ppl in tibet ,they are like us ,just same.Ppl who would like to suffer to gain spiritual enlightenment is still the minimal.
Originally posted by rokkie:i agree very much.I don't understand Dailai a lot,so i cannot comment ,but maybe he is trying to grab more power for himself not for the happiness of the Tibetan , tibet may be the last resort of people spiritual home.But actually it is pooriest province in the country.For ppl declare that material is not important ,but actually for ppl like us material is important ,for a lot of ppl in tibet ,they are like us ,just same.Ppl who would like to suffer to gain spiritual enlightenment is still the minimal.
Dalai Lama is absolutely not grabbing more power for himself, refer to the email I posted above.
Dalai Lama threatens to resign if situation in Tibet worsens
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Dalai_Lama_threatens_to_resign_if_situation_in_Tibet_worsens
http://sg.search.yahoo.com/search?p=Dalai+Lama+completely+resign&fr=yfp-t-web&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8
"completely resign" as in don't want to be Dalai Lama no more. this show how anti-violence the HHDL is.
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The dalai lama in my eyes will never do such acts. He is a strong supporter for peace in the world and practices peace, how will he do such things? Do not let propagenda of media and words get into your brain. People are just trying to brainwash thousands that dalai lama is bad. I can merely say if the dalai lama is considered bad, the rest of the people are all devils and upmost sinners. People never really find out and discover what is actually good or bad in a sense.
The dalai lama is the incarnation of the bodhisattva. Even his actions will show you. What right does the china government has to say?
Dalai Lama is NOT requesting for Tibetan Independence. He is NOT asking for Free Tibet. He is FOR an autonomous Tibet under Chinese rule and has always been requesting for peaceful dialogues with the China authorities, but had not received any positive response.
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tibet definitely get high level of autonomy.As long as Dailai lama do not do things to affect the china 主�。
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Dalai Lama already supported China hosting Olympics. Even now after the Tibet unrest, Dalai Lama still says that China deserves to host Olympics. All these have costed Dalai Lama support among his own people. Yet it is such an irony that China govt still insists that he is a separatist and his main aim is to split China
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support china hosting olympics does not erase that things he has done before.So far as i know ,china government has a good temper,he always be humbled as the chinese does,when the other country do sth bad to china ,he do not approach to military method , but only some message to 谴责。As far as tibet is concerned, china government can garantee it's autonomy status as it is now.But Dailai lama cannot surpass the power of the central government, as i know Dailai have engaged in some separation activity with US or other party.And i can quote a lot evidence for that.Tibet is a unseparatable part of china ,as recgonised internationally.
Originally posted by rokkie:tibet definitely get high level of autonomy.As long as Dailai lama do not do things to affect the china 主�。
...support china hosting olympics does not erase that things he has done before.So far as i know ,china government has a good temper,he always be humbled as the chinese does,when the other country do sth bad to china ,he do not approach to military method , but only some message to 谴责。As far as tibet is concerned, china government can garantee it's autonomy status as it is now.But Dailai lama cannot surpass the power of the central government, as i know Dailai have engaged in some separation activity with US or other party.And i can quote a lot evidence for that.Tibet is a unseparatable part of china ,as recgonised internationally.
The problem is Tibetan "autonomy" is only by name, there is no true autonomy in Tibet. That is why HHDL is pushing for true autonomy and also fairness for Tibetans -- not to be treated as second class citizens.
I have no ideas of what HHDL thinks say 30, 40 years ago, but HHDL has never pushed nor supported independence nor separatist movements in recent times.
In my personal views, I believe that Dalai Lama did not instigate the riot in Tibet. I believe it is some minority group that started the riot that causes all these violence. Buddha has never teach us to use violence against anyone or anything, needless to say destroy properties. From what I saw in the news, the rioters are violent and beyond control and perhaps, they are not even Buddhist in my perspective. Peace should be the path that Tibetians should lead and not violent.Violent will not help in anyway and only results in self-hurt to the Tibetians.
Originally posted by Perseverancejb:In my personal views, I believe that Dalai Lama did not instigate the riot in Tibet. I believe it is some minority group that started the riot that causes all these violence. Buddha has never teach us to use violence against anyone or anything, needless to say destroy properties. From what I saw in the news, the rioters are violent and beyond control and perhaps, they are not even Buddhist in my perspective. Peace should be the path that Tibetians should lead and not violent.Violent will not help in anyway and only results in self-hurt to the Tibetians.
dude ,it's not pure spiritual thing,it's politics.
just heard the Q&A of MCK..last second/third query.
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http://www.amtb-aus.org/
all and all, the act of judging is not according to dharma. as within judgment, there's already discrimination and attachment. got things you don't like, u start to protest. this is already not in Dharma.
during Buddha's time, Buddha also got many similar issues, but He never protested. in the case where King Liu Li wanted to get rid of Shakya Clan, and among Buddha's disciples, there are about 16 disciples who are kings and have an army. if they get together to stop King Liu Li, it's very easy, but Buddha never approve of violence. Shakya Clan only escape to Tibet. Retribution is retribution, get it over.
in the history of china, it happen 3 times, the Rulers wanted to get rid of Buddhism. did the monks/nuns come out to protest? No. this is to show that Buddha disciples abide by the vinaya/precepts. will the next Ruler want to reinstate Buddhism? yes, as people know Buddha disciples are good and do not get into trouble. But if Buddha disciples do protest, then they are really Ending the age of Dharma. Dharma is about peace, non-violence and tolerance. Tolerate the most difficult. perfection of Patient Paramita. We can't even withstand such test, then we are still ordinary people. this is giving Dharma a bad name.
ps: that said one of the signs of Dharma ending is ordain people start protesting on the street.
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Agree with sinweiy. If we claim that we are Buddhists but we go to street to protest violently ... we are committing very bad karma by causing people to misunderstand Buddhism/Buddhists. 以身谤法,果报太�怕了��
And quote from Master Chin Kung:
有对立就�佛法
I also believe that HH Dalai Lama has got nothing to do with this riot.
It most likely planned some people to sabotage the Beijing Olympic 2008.
I really hope China government will soon have a open communication with Dalai Lama to come out with a peaceful resolution.
BTW I'm closing this thread -- as a friend said in an e-mail to me which I agree, "I think it is not appropriate to carry on the discussion in regards to the Tibet saga. Just let your forum be carried on as a discussion on Buddhism and spirituality and not giving people a chance to turn it into a platform talking about politics, etc."