a weird thing that happen..need help

• An Eternal Now

  28 Mar 08, 14:14

  Originally posted by rokkie:

  Taoism is only Chu Shi, and Confucianism is purely Ru Shi.

  confucianismis purely Ru shi,i agree somehow.If u think Taoism is chushi ,it's wrong.

  Please read some chinese article about it, english one maybe not quite straitforward.

  there r about three fundanmental books for taoism ,《黄�内�》，《��》《庄�》.,《黄�内�》is a medicine book, this is 由医入�。，《��》is a recogonized founder of the Taoism .<��> and <庄�>.and different .<庄�> is more chushi.it emphasize on free will .天人�一.��is different.很多儒家的东西讲的是有的东西.规矩.但是也是讲free will的就象孔�讲的�心所欲�逾矩.而�家的东西是讲无的.孔�是以有治世,��是以无治世.��和孔�的东西在�个�代都�过�展.就是现在所讲的国学.�家的东西还有仙学,和丹�

  Hmm, I think it's very possible Taoism nowadays are more diversified and place equal emphasis on "ru shi" as wel.

• An Eternal Now

  28 Mar 08, 14:15

  Originally posted by Bodhi hut:

  IMOP:

   

  Though I am a buddhist and into buddhism studies, I do explore other religion, Taosim is one that I do read about. é�“å¾·ç»� is considered one of the ç»�å…¸ in china culture, before é�“å¾·ç»�  exist, there is one which is regard as the ç»�典中的ç»�å…¸which is 易ç»�。。these two books are very profound and implies alot of human nature morality and regards to this universe behaviour.

   

  佛家和�家，都有自己的执�，一个人�往那个宗教信仰，那是他的因缘，�就如何就�看他的修行。。我觉得佛家说的就是明心�性，是人人能所能得�的路，但我们就是活在虚幻世界里，�达到明心�能�性的果报�真是�容易。我对�宗教都有开放的�想，都希望人能有善念，但是一个宗教也是人们而组�，所以人心在宗教修学的�路上站了一个宗教的形�。佛说分比之心，一个好�的事或人就是从心而分比出�的。�家或佛家都是好的学术，能从中得到人生�化或�报那就�看个人的心能�中多少，包容，信念，慈悲和智慧。

   

  大家努力。。肯定有结果。。

   

  Tao Te Ching �德�

   

  English version
  http://www.sacred-texts.com/tao/taote.htm
  
  Chinese version
  http://yuzx.com/w/article/l-04-02.html
  
  http://home.pages.at/onkellotus/index.html

  Yes, I also think Tao Te Ching is profound.

• yamizi

  28 Mar 08, 14:29

  Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

  Hmm, I think it's very possible Taoism nowadays are more diversified and place equal emphasis on "ru shi" as wel.

  
  AEN,

   

  I don't think that it is the 'nowadays' Taoism that place equal emphasis on 入世. From é�“å¾·ç»� itself, it already has 入世 concept. How would one live in the Path.

   

  There are 81 chapters in �德�. And although it is not as extensive as buddhist scriptures, in these chapters, both 入世 and 出世 were taught.

   

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_te_ching

• An Eternal Now

  28 Mar 08, 14:42

  Originally posted by yamizi:

  
  AEN,

   

  I don't think that it is the 'nowadays' Taoism that place equal emphasis on 入世. From é�“å¾·ç»� itself, it already has 入世 concept. How would one live in the Path.

   

  There are 81 chapters in �德�. And although it is not as extensive as buddhist scriptures, in these chapters, both 入世 and 出世 were taught.

   

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_te_ching

  I see..

• Bodhi hut

  28 Mar 08, 16:02

   

  Just to state a simple fact...�德� was earlier than any Buddhism sutra...

   

  You find some conceptual meaning of �德� similiar to buddhism concept.

• rokkie

  28 Mar 08, 16:59

  Originally posted by Bodhi hut:

   

  Just to state a simple fact...�德� was earlier than any Buddhism sutra...

   

  You find some conceptual meaning of �德� similiar to buddhism concept.

  
  In fact ,there is a saying spread in Taoist.that ��。西出函�关。and he go to india .teach buddha ,so he enlighened.

  Of course i don't believe that

• rokkie

  28 Mar 08, 17:03

  Originally posted by Bodhi hut:

  IMOP:

   

  Though I am a buddhist and into buddhism studies, I do explore other religion, Taosim is one that I do read about. é�“å¾·ç»� is considered one of the ç»�å…¸ in china culture, before é�“å¾·ç»�  exist, there is one which is regard as the ç»�典中的ç»�å…¸which is 易ç»�。。these two books are very profound and implies alot of human nature morality and regards to this universe behaviour.

   

  佛家和�家，都有自己的执�，一个人�往那个宗教信仰，那是他的因缘，�就如何就�看他的修行。。我觉得佛家说的就是明心�性，是人人能所能得�的路，但我们就是活在虚幻世界里，�达到明心�能�性的果报�真是�容易。我对�宗教都有开放的�想，都希望人能有善念，但是一个宗教也是人们而组�，所以人心在宗教修学的�路上站了一个宗教的形�。佛说分比之心，一个好�的事或人就是从心而分比出�的。�家或佛家都是好的学术，能从中得到人生�化或�报那就�看个人的心能�中多少，包容，信念，慈悲和智慧。

   

  大家努力。。肯定有结果。。

   

  Tao Te Ching �德�

   

  English version
  http://www.sacred-texts.com/tao/taote.htm
  
  Chinese version
  http://yuzx.com/w/article/l-04-02.html
  
  http://home.pages.at/onkellotus/index.html

  can't agree more

  but tao te ching is profound and is not profound ,because it tell the simple truth ppl ignored.Compare to buddhism teaching ,there are so many sutras and teach the image u see when u enlightened.And so many concept about universe, so many teaching and sects ,i think taoism is not so tough to understand

• rokkie

  28 Mar 08, 17:19

  p.s

  I think if someone already read i ching .he will know that ,there r two important element name 'yin' 'yang'.yin stand for female,feminie ,yang stand for male ,and a lot of concept derived from these two concept.YIn yang compose buguas and everything so on.

   

  in fact there r there iching .one is 连山，归� ，and周易。lianshan is writen in xia dynasty ,guizang is writen in shang dynasty ,zhouyi is writen in zhou dynasty.

  confucius originate from zhouyi .which put qian ä¹¾in the first gua .which stand for pure malehood .

  taoism originate from guizhang .whichi put kun � in the first gua .and stand for pure femalehood.

  but both of them emphasize on 性，which is a importand concept in chinese culture .

  during that period .there r a lot of teaching on this .some say human nature is good ,some say human nature is bad.and some say living is human nature 生谓之性。so human nature is a mixture of both.

   

• Bodhi hut

  28 Mar 08, 18:42

   

  This is a comprehensive I Ching site

   

  http://destiny.xfiles.to/app/iching/IChing/locale/en;jsessionid=aMPhb4F6ZNRa

   

  And in my forum a video clip on 百家讲�_易�与人生-曾仕强

  http://bodhihut.17.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=984

   

• An Eternal Now

  28 Mar 08, 18:46

  Originally posted by rokkie:

  
  In fact ,there is a saying spread in Taoist.that ��。西出函�关。and he go to india .teach buddha ,so he enlighened.

  Of course i don't believe that

  Yeah that is impossible, because Buddha taught that he got enlightened without any teachers.

• An Eternal Now

  28 Mar 08, 18:49

  Originally posted by rokkie:

  p.s

  I think if someone already read i ching .he will know that ,there r two important element name 'yin' 'yang'.yin stand for female,feminie ,yang stand for male ,and a lot of concept derived from these two concept.YIn yang compose buguas and everything so on.

   

  in fact there r there iching .one is 连山，归� ，and周易。lianshan is writen in xia dynasty ,guizang is writen in shang dynasty ,zhouyi is writen in zhou dynasty.

  confucius originate from zhouyi .which put qian ä¹¾in the first gua .which stand for pure malehood .

  taoism originate from guizhang .whichi put kun � in the first gua .and stand for pure femalehood.

  but both of them emphasize on 性，which is a importand concept in chinese culture .

  during that period .there r a lot of teaching on this .some say human nature is good ,some say human nature is bad.and some say living is human nature 生谓之性。so human nature is a mixture of both.

   

  Our original nature is neither good or bad, good or bad are produced/productions from mind. Then what is mind? What is the original mind/original face before birth?

  Hui Neng said, "Since the object of your coming is the Dharma, refrain from thinking of anything and keep your mind empty. I will then teach you." They meditated together for a considerable time, then Hui Neng asked Hui Ming, "When you are thinking of neither good nor evil, at this particular moment, what is your original nature (Buddha Nature)?" As soon as Hui Ming heard this, he instantly became enlightened.

• An Eternal Now

  28 Mar 08, 18:51

  Originally posted by rokkie:

  p.s

  I think if someone already read i ching .he will know that ,there r two important element name 'yin' 'yang'.yin stand for female,feminie ,yang stand for male ,and a lot of concept derived from these two concept.YIn yang compose buguas and everything so on.

   

  in fact there r there iching .one is 连山，归� ，and周易。lianshan is writen in xia dynasty ,guizang is writen in shang dynasty ,zhouyi is writen in zhou dynasty.

  confucius originate from zhouyi .which put qian ä¹¾in the first gua .which stand for pure malehood .

  taoism originate from guizhang .whichi put kun � in the first gua .and stand for pure femalehood.

  but both of them emphasize on 性，which is a importand concept in chinese culture .

  during that period .there r a lot of teaching on this .some say human nature is good ,some say human nature is bad.and some say living is human nature 生谓之性。so human nature is a mixture of both.

   

  What is before Yin and Yang?

  Our moderator Thusness said before,

  
  Yes Earthing82,
  
  Polarity certainly isnÂ’t opposites; these extremities are themselves a single whole. Although the power to abstract has brought us to the advancement of science today, it also prevent us from experiencing reality directly, separating the inseparable and dividing wholeness into opposites. Let us be undefined so that we can penetrate into the profundity of Tao.
  
  To speak in Taoist terms, the Pristine Awareness is the great Unmanifest Infinity. It manifests itself as phenomenon existence but conceals itself; this is its great reserve. Momentarily it creates and recreate, this is called the Change. Before yin and yang, this is called the Original. That Presence that can be felt but cannot be defined, this is called the Spirit. Movement without core and center, this is called Emptiness. To see what is as it is, this is called Wisdom. The Tao in its Self-So, this is called Thus.

• Bodhi hut

  28 Mar 08, 23:52

   

  Rokkie,

   

  I-Ching Yin Yang is not only said about male or female, as recently I just read a book on I-Ching...Yin Yang means there are both side in this universe...human as in male and female..fire as in oppose water...inside a male there is also Yin n Yang energy...Take a look at Taosim symbol...黑�有白，白�有黑。。。There are two flow of energy in this universe..which they must remain balance......

   

  Not only Buddhism has many sects and sutra...Taosim has many sect and sutra as well.........In Buddhism, there are only three school of thoughts..Theravada, Mahayana and Vajrayan..and all these school followed 本尊释迦牟尼佛 Buddha teaching...Which are the Four Noble Truth and Eight Fold Path...There are many sutra because when buddha start preeching buddhism he used different method to preech different people, as he knows everyone has different level of understanding..as for the sect...some are form to focus on a particular teaching by Buddha...All the dharma from Buddha is as good as could make one enlighten..but it all voice down to individual practise...As I felt that 万法真明自在心。。。all the dharma are within your mind..which if you could see this mindfulness of yours..明心�性。。。

   

• Bodhi hut

  29 Mar 08, 00:15

  To add on..this is a very good F&Q from a Buddhism practioner master..

   

  2. 我们�是找回我们的佛性。

  佛性是什么？真正佛性�是用找的，佛性�能显起，就是�能去除我们所有习气�心病，去除我法二执，无有�毫微尘时，佛性就会显了。佛性显了�是什么现象，此佛就能观照到虚空界无�微尘数一切佛剎土�其众生之因缘果报现象，�毫�昧。�能�得到这�境界，就如释迦牟尼佛一样，就�有三大阿僧祇劫的���修行，�是一个想上天界去享�的人今生就能找到佛性的，��太一厢情愿了。�打���禅修��练功者连天性都�知�其真实，何�能认识佛性的因缘呢�末法时期连天性是如何都�得�清�楚了，还想�把佛性找回�？所以先简�说明一些真如性让您知�。

   

  (1)

  先�说人性，以真如�代替佛性，人的佛性是眼根�耳根�鼻根�舌根�身根��根等六根真如，眼识�耳识�鼻识�舌识�身识��识等识真如，懂得色尘�声尘�香尘�味尘�触尘�法尘等六尘真如，六触：眼触�耳触�鼻触�舌触�身触��触等真如。五蕴色���想�行�识等真如性，还有六大(地�水���风�空�识)等真如性。凡夫是有此等真如性，但�知其真实，在根尘识三和��，在五蕴妄有中，起心造业无�无边，有佛性也是在造业，游走于六�轮回中。

  (2)

  ��说明天性真如，四�虑(禅) 真如：��虑真如�二�虑真如�三�虑真如�四�虑真如(色界四禅天)，四无色定真如：空无边处定真如�识无边处定真如�无所有处定真如��想��想处定真如(无色界四空处定)，八背�真如��次第定真如���一切处真如等是色界�无色界天界真如佛性。

   

  3. 佛教如何看待这回事？

   

  �知�佛教如何看待这回事，就请好好去研读佛教的三��二部�，里�都有说明，相信�比一贯�的佛性��，�高深了�万亿兆兆�。因其太高深，�一般凡夫所能�解，就仅能列出圣人阿罗汉���等所修的真如佛性供�考，�德若是够的�，�以好好去研究。其佛性有四圣谛真如��二因缘真如��八空真如�六度真如�四�虑真如�四无�真如�四无色真如�八解脱真如�八胜处真如��次第定真如���处真如��七��真如�三解脱门真如�五眼六通真如�佛�力真如�四无所�真如�四无�解真如�大慈大悲大喜大�真如��八佛�共法真如�真如真如�法界真如�法性真如�平等性真如�离生性真如�法定真如�法�真如�实际真如�虚空界真如���议界真如�无上正等��真如�一切智真如��相智真如�一切相智真如�无忘失法真如�陀罗尼门真如�声闻乘真如�独觉乘真如�无上乘真如�预�真如�一�真如��还真如�阿罗汉真如�预��真如�预�果真如�一��真如�一�果真如��还�真如��还果真如�阿罗汉�真如�阿罗汉果真如�独觉真如�独觉�真如�独觉果真如���摩诃�真如�三�三佛陀真如���摩诃�法真如�无上正等��真如��喜地真如�离垢地真如��光地真如�焰慧地真如��难胜地真如�现�地真如�远行地真如��动地真如�善慧地�法云地�异生地��姓地�第八地�具�地�薄地�离欲地�已办地�独觉地真如���地真如�如�地真如�有为界真如�无为界真如等都是佛性也。

   

  4. 佛陀最清净觉的佛性境界─

  如�最清净觉具足��佛性所行无�：

  (1)用周无�，谓佛于剎尘等处，现法界身云，业用无边，无�周徧。

  (2)相徧无�，谓佛于�方一切世界无�佛剎��神�，皆有如�示现�生之相，�现一相，众相皆具，万德圆满。

  (3)寂用无�，谓佛常�三昧为寂，无妨利物为用；�定�用，无�自在。

  (4)�起无�，谓佛虽寂用无心，而能�海�三昧之力，�起无�之用。

  (5)真应无�，真，指�那佛之真身；应，指释迦之应身。真身是体，应身是用；全体起用，用�是体，故释迦��那，圆�自在，本无二体。

  (6)分圆无�，分，指手足�眼耳�皮毛等之支分；圆，指全身。谓支分��全身，全身��支分，一一身分�具全身。

  (7)因果无�，谓佛�所修��之行因，而��那佛果，能普现�方，自在无�。

  (8)�正无�，�，��报，指佛所�之国土；正，�正报，指佛能�之色身。谓��正相入，二皆无�。

  (9)潜入无�，谓佛智潜入众生界中，�为如��，虽作众生，亦�失自性。

  (10)圆通无�，谓佛�大法界为其身，�无�具，事无�摄，无一法而�佛身，�谓�一无�之法界身云。

   

   

  5.如�佛性根本�是法身无相─如�最清净觉当有别于三圣真如，以下如�所�最清净觉真如，共有�二真如异�，亦称�二无为或�二空。

  (1)真如：真者真实，如者如常。诸法之体性真实如常，�缘�异(凡)，而无�易(圣)。

  (2)法界：界者所�之义，真如为诸法之所�，诸法为缘起之法。如�清净觉能�一切法界，�一切佛剎土，故言能尽法界。

  (3)法性：是为诸法之体性，真如缘法生性，故凡者有三性，圣者�二，惟如�为圆�实性。

  (4)�虚妄性：法性真实而离虚妄。幻法�起，虚法��，由法性圆�实故，缘实法实境。

  (5)��异性：法体���改，了知真实法，自性圆�实，��异缘而�易。法相宗所立之说：「真如�然，�作诸法�。�谓真如�寂湛然，毫��缘起动。

   

  (6)平等性：永离诸法之差别相，平等ä¸�二。平等性å�³å‘¨é��于一切诸法而为平等之体相。《瑜伽师地论》å�·å››å��三：「于一切法悟平等性，入大总相，究达一切所知边际，远离增益ã€�æ�Ÿå‡�二边，顺入中é�“。ã€�平等性智samatÄ�-jñÄ�na，å�ˆä½œå¹³ç­‰æ™ºï¼ŒæŒ‡ä½“悟自ã€�他平等之智。å�³è½¬ç¬¬ä¸ƒæœ«é‚£è¯†æ‰€å¾—之智慧，ä¾�此智慧而了知一切事相å�Šè‡ªä»–皆平等，乃生起大慈悲心。《佛地论》å�·ä¸‰è°“平等性智乃观自ã€�他一切皆平等，大慈大悲æ�’常相互契å�ˆè€Œæ— é—´æ–­ï¼Œæ•…建立佛地「无ä½�涅盘ã€�（ä¸�ä½�于生死ã€�涅盘之涅盘）。éš�诸有情之所ä¹�，示现自ã€�ä»–å�—用之身与土等ç§�ç§�å½±åƒ�。对于åˆ�地以上之è�©è�¨ï¼Œç¤ºçŽ°ä»–å�—用之身土，常行大慈大悲之化益。《心地观ç»�》：「平等性智，转我è§�识得此智慧。是以能è¯�自他平等二无我性，如是å��为平等性智。ã€�

  (7)离生性：离生��断烦�法之性。若真如�缘起动，�背无为无作用之�件，则�入生���之有为法。正性能离生(俱�)�圣性离生(唯识)，谓声闻�缘觉二乘入于��之�，生一分之无�智，断除分别起之烦�障；��生一分之无�智，断除烦��所知等二障，因而得一分之圣性，永离凡夫之生，故称圣性离生。正性离生�圣性离生得五分法身，属�乘解脱法。如�佛性能�离法性，而�离生之真纯无�智，是为真离生性，故称最清净觉。

  (8)法定：法性安立�，是谓法定，仅如�之定为大空三昧定，�如实入如�地，内�圣智而观一切众生悉具佛性之三昧。《大日�》：「佛说一切空，正觉之等�，三昧�知心，�从异缘得。彼如是境界，一切如�定，故说为大空，圆满�婆若。��谓入于正觉三昧时，乃觉诸法本�生之�，明一切有心者悉有佛性，此佛性��首楞严定，亦称金刚三昧�般若波罗蜜。若行人��心时，能如是正观心性，则称入如�定。如�得法界自在大三昧，是谓法定，能于�八界（六根�六境�六识）自在出入，�知事法界边际与�法界，无�自在故。如��有无�轮大三昧，如�身��三业胜用，三轮摄化皆自在故。(1)神�轮，�作神通轮�身轮。乃显现神通，�化胜异之境，而今众生�心入信之神通轮。(2)教诫论，�作说法轮��轮。�演说教法，令众生�邪入正而�心入信。(3)记心轮，�作忆念轮��轮。佛说法时，先以�轮鉴知众生根器利�，�宜演说，无有差谬。

   

  (9)法�：法�于真如之法�，真如之妙�，必�于一切诸法中，�离诸法，故称法�。�法�性而�，所以法�实法性�事法性两�法性而�。法性之法为轨则之义；性��改之义。一切法性无有�易，皆��轨则而修，故称法性。(1)实法性，�一实之�，离虚妄相，本性平等，无有�易，一切诸佛莫�轨此法性修之�正觉。(2)事法性，�世间��诸法，皆�于�，施设建立，如地�水���风�空�识等六法性，�俗所知所�，虽属于事，然�外乎法性之�。

  (10)实际：æž�真如之实ç�†ï¼Œè‡³äºŽç©·æž�之际。实际bhÅ«ta-koti，乃真实际æž�之æ„�。å�³æŒ‡ç»�离虚妄之涅盘实è¯�，å�ˆæŒ‡çœŸå¦‚之ç�†ä½“。《金刚三昧ç»�》：「佛言，实际之法，法无有际，无际之心，则入实际。ã€�《大智度论》：「实际者，以法性为实，è¯�故为际。如阿罗汉，å��为ä½�于实际。…，善入法性，是为实际。…，实际å�³æ¶…盘。ã€�《中论》：「究竟推求世间ã€�涅盘实际无生际，以平等ä¸�å�¯å¾—故，无毫厘差别。ã€�此谓涅盘å�³å®žé™…，而生死与涅盘亦皆平等ä¸�å�¯å¾—而无毫厘之别。

  (11)虚空界：�体周�尽虚空界，谓如�法身真如广大至无际涯之虚空界。于时间而言，尽未�际；于空间而言，尽虚空界。

  (12)��议界：�体��虑言议，���议。如�有�����议法，(1)最胜身相���议，(2)妙好音声���议，(3)最上大智���议，(4)微妙光明���议，(5)圆满戒定���议，(6)广大神足���议，(7)��智力���议，(8)四无所����议，(9)大悲之心���议，(10)�共佛法���议。

  如�真如法身，如�之法身系以真如为自性，故称真如法身。真如为一切现象之实性，超越所有之差别相；如�之法身�以之为自性，�除一切烦�障，具足一切善法，如如�动。source:http://www.dharma.com.tw/X2GB/D33SProb/P4-234.htm

   

   

• rokkie

  2 Apr 08, 15:33

  Originally posted by Bodhi hut:

   

  Rokkie,

   

  I-Ching Yin Yang is not only said about male or female, as recently I just read a book on I-Ching...Yin Yang means there are both side in this universe...human as in male and female..fire as in oppose water...inside a male there is also Yin n Yang energy...Take a look at Taosim symbol...黑�有白，白�有黑。。。There are two flow of energy in this universe..which they must remain balance......

   

   

  yes, it's fundamental china's philosophy ,it's quite similar to 辩�法 by karl Marx.That's china adopt the Marxism so easily

• An Eternal Now

  3 Apr 08, 00:40

  Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

  Our original nature is neither good or bad, good or bad are produced/productions from mind. Then what is mind? What is the original mind/original face before birth?

  Hui Neng said, "Since the object of your coming is the Dharma, refrain from thinking of anything and keep your mind empty. I will then teach you." They meditated together for a considerable time, then Hui Neng asked Hui Ming, "When you are thinking of neither good nor evil, at this particular moment, what is your original nature (Buddha Nature)?" As soon as Hui Ming heard this, he instantly became enlightened.

   

  The mind is the root from which all things grow if you can understand the mind, everything else is included. It’s like the root of a tree. All a tree’s fruit and flowers, branches and leaves depend on its root. If you nourish its root, a tree multiplies. If you cut its root, it dies. Those who understand the mind reach enlightenment with minimal effort. Those who don’t understand the mind practice in vain. Everything good and bad comes from your own mind. To find something beyond the mind is impossible.

  ~ 1st Ch'an/Zen Patriarch, Bodhidharma

   

  Don't investigate the root of things,

  Investigate the root of Mind!

  Once the mind's root has been found,

  You'll know one thing, yet all is thereby freed

  But if the root of Mind you fail to find,

  You will know everything but nothing understand.

  ~ Guru Padmasambhava

   

  Let thoughts go free, just like a dove released from a ship

  in the middle of the infinite ocean.

  For just as the bird finds nowhere to land

  but back on the ship, thoughts have no place to go

  other than returning to their place of origin.

  ~ Maitripa

• AsimpleKid

  4 Apr 08, 22:06

  I prefer confucius to lau zi.. confucius highlight the importance of civilisation , which is necessary for us to cultivate. I also read taoism comics.. but not so into it.

• rokkie

  6 Apr 08, 13:42

  Originally posted by AsimpleKid:

  I prefer confucius to lau zi.. confucius highlight the importance of civilisation , which is necessary for us to cultivate. I also read taoism comics.. but not so into it.

  
  I not into it ,do not means that u r not smart ,choose what u can into ,and just do it .As buddhism teaching ,因缘，i don't knwo how to translate it into english.

• An Eternal Now

  6 Apr 08, 13:43

  Originally posted by rokkie:

  
  I not into it ,do not means that u r not smart ,choose what u can into ,and just do it .As buddhism teaching ,因缘，i don't knwo how to translate it into english.

  means causes and conditions

• rokkie

  6 Apr 08, 13:56

  Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

  means causes and conditions

  
  oh ic ,thx