K A R M A
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hello,
Do you think Karma exist?
If so,
why corrupted people who are also powerful and dictatorial live a long life and always stay rich and getting richer and never lose his power?
If Karma exist,
would this dicky not have kenna lightning struck 1 trillion times already?
Lets hear whats your views on Karma.
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Originally posted by balance_else_complacent:
hello,
Do you think Karma exist?
If so,
why corrupted people who are also powerful and dictatorial live a long life and always stay rich and getting richer and never lose his power?
If Karma exist,
would this dicky not have kenna lightning struck 1 trillion times already?
Lets hear whats your views on Karma.
I believe karma exists.
Karmic causes needs conditions to manifest and if someone did evil deeds they may not manifest into effect in the present lifetime. It may be the next or other future lifetimes that it manifests. If someone is very evil or killed many people etc it is likely he might be reborn in the 3 lower realms.
Similarly, good people that end up having cancer or die terribly might be due to karma brought over from previous lifetimes, possibly several lifetimes ago. Those who can remember past lives and trace their karmic causes will know, as our moderator longchen has spoken before from personal experience.
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BTW I hope we don't link political leaders and politics to this topic.
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I see karma as newtons law ..the higher you throw a ball..the harder you fall..and i see it as albert estein...energy can only be transform and not destroy....
Those who are doing bad karma this current life...they might have done thousands of good karma in their many previous life..but in this life...due to influences and the environmental effect over their mind...a wrong move...they have did some bad things which actually will diminish all their past good cumulative karma in this life...perhaps they live slightly longer..but the next life they might be in the hungry ghost releam or the animal releam for the next thousand life to come....
Karma will relate to past life and currently life..this are �报...but remember whatever you do now...can actually lead to many chain effects coming up..in business concept its call multiplying effect....so guys take note on what you are doing daily...
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Originally posted by balance_else_complacent:
hello,
Do you think Karma exist?
If so,
why corrupted people who are also powerful and dictatorial live a long life and always stay rich and getting richer and never lose his power?
If Karma exist,
would this dicky not have kenna lightning struck 1 trillion times already?
Lets hear whats your views on Karma.
There are also many cases where such ppl you described above faced terrible situations in their later years or even untimely death. There are ample examples of such scenarios in world history as well as in tdy's morden business corporate world.
Karma exists. It exists even if we choose not to see it.
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Oh, and one more thing, sometimes riches and power may not necessarily means that one is leading a happy, peaceful or even normal life. He may be mentally suferring from constantly worring about loosing what he has or may be leading a long physically painful life from uncurable illness in old age. To them , maybe its worst than kenna struck by lightning. Such sufferings can be so intense that its' equivalent to sufferings of the hell realm.
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There are causes for all human suffering, and there is a way, by which they may be ended, because everything in the world is the result of a vast concurrence of causes and conditions, and everything disappears as these causes and conditions change and pass away. Rain falls, winds blow, plants bloom, leaves mature and are blown away. These phenomena are all interrelated with causes and conditions, and are brought about by them, and disappear as the causes and conditions change. One if born through the conditions of parentage. His body is nourished by food: his spirit is nurtured by teaching and experience. Therefore both flesh and spirit are related to conditions and are changed as conditions change. As a net is made up by a series of knots, so everything in this world is connected by a series of knots. If anyone thinks that the mesh of net is an independent, isolated thing, he is mistaken. It is called a net because it is made up of a series of connected meshed, and each mesh has its place and responsibilities to other meshes. Blossoms come about because of series of conditions that lead to their blooming. Leaves are blown away because of a series of conditions lead up to it. Blossoms do not appear independently, nor does a leaf fall of itself, out of its season. So everything has its coming forth and passing away; nothing can be independent without any change. It is the everlasting and unchanging rule of this world that everything is created by a series of causes and conditions and everything disappears by the same rule; everything changes, nothing remains constant.
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Originally posted by balance_else_complacent:
hello,
Do you think Karma exist?
If so,
why corrupted people who are also powerful and dictatorial live a long life and always stay rich and getting richer and never lose his power?
If Karma exist,
would this dicky not have kenna lightning struck 1 trillion times already?
Lets hear whats your views on Karma.
It is probably that the time for the bad karma hasn't riped.
Karma works with causes and conditions. Refer to the previous posting that i have posted.
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yes, time and condition is not right/riped.‘ä¸�是ä¸�报，时候ä¸�到’
there's a case study of:-
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“æ¯”æ–¹è¯´ä½ å’Œå…¶å®ƒå‡ ä¸ªå¹´é�’人，曾ç»�欺负过一个å°�å©å�ã€‚ä»–å› å¹¼å°�æ— åŠ›ï¼Œå�ªèƒ½è®°æ�¨åœ¨å¿ƒã€‚现在他长æˆ�å¹´é�’力壮的å°�ä¼™å�äº†ï¼Œè€Œä½ ä»¬å�´è€�了，但是他一个人也敌ä¸�è¿‡ä½ ä»¬å‡ ä¸ªäººå‘�，于是他会一个一个地报å¤�，或者是先找体质最差的寻仇，而ä¸�一定是先找最先欺负他的那个人。
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wats so important bout this?
Just dont do things that will hurt ppl, and also do bad things that making ppl's life miserable..
Knowing or not knowing karma just wont help anyone to change their thinking.
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Originally posted by Zarks:
wats so important bout this?
Just dont do things that will hurt ppl, and also do bad things that making ppl's life miserable..
Knowing or not knowing karma just wont help anyone to change their thinking.
So you agree karma does not exist and thus will not change anything? -
Herzog_Zwei
I dun think Zarks means there is no karma, I think what he meant is we should be more focus on our doings, and do things whole heartly and not because of Karma and do the good action, these are more like thinking about oneself rather than showing compassion to others..
Personally I feel that karma exits in this world, but we should show compassion to others and not just because afriad being punish by karma and start doing all the good act...
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Originally posted by cycle:
There are also many cases where such ppl you described above faced terrible situations in their later years or even untimely death. There are ample examples of such scenarios in world history as well as in tdy's morden business corporate world.
Karma exists. It exists even if we choose not to see it.
Lets see if your theory holds water.one guy has a few left.
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Originally posted by balance_else_complacent:
Lets see if your theory holds water.one guy has a few left.
May i know who is the guy that you are talking about ? -
someone has become God
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Originally posted by balance_else_complacent:
Lets see if your theory holds water.one guy has a few left.
It's not just a theory and it's not mine lah... I'm not so wise.
Which explains why I don't get your last sentence.
But yes, lets all of us be able to see the truth of life one day. Then we won't be in BWB.
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Originally posted by Zarks:
wats so important bout this?
Just dont do things that will hurt ppl, and also do bad things that making ppl's life miserable..
Knowing or not knowing karma just wont help anyone to change their thinking.
May i know what pleasure is there truly, for someone who hurt and making people's life miserable ?
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Originally posted by Isis:
May i know what pleasure is there truly, for someone who hurt and making people's life miserable ?
when someone has seriously pissed u off
and i know i have pissed a lot of people off -
Here are some excerpts from a article by Ven. Fazhao published in Vaidurya vol.27 touching on Karma, hopes it can helps to clear some doubts.
' 'Karma' is not necessarily something that happens in the future. A person with heavy karmic obscurations would have fear in his heart. A person filled with fear would naturally not be healthy physically. He may even have hallucinations resulting in terror. '
'Karma arises from the mind. When karmic obscurations manifest, an illusion is produced which leads us to experience the fruition of karma. From past causes to present results; presents causes to future results, Buddhism studies the present thought and the development of future cause and effect. Not only does it study the future, but the way to transform past negative karma. People who know the law of cause and effect and put effort into making positive changes will be healthy both physically and emotionally.'
'From the Buddhist viewpoint, fame and gain, status and glory are the positive results of past virtuous activities. If one has not practised generosity in the past, even if one accquires wealth in this lifetime, it will not stay. Causes, conditions, fruition and results are not fatalistic but a message for all to put effort into practising virtue, wisdom and compassion.'
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
I believe karma exists.
Karmic causes needs conditions to manifest and if someone did evil deeds they may not manifest into effect in the present lifetime. It may be the next or other future lifetimes that it manifests. If someone is very evil or killed many people etc it is likely he might be reborn in the 3 lower realms.
Similarly, good people that end up having cancer or die terribly might be due to karma brought over from previous lifetimes, possibly several lifetimes ago. Those who can remember past lives and trace their karmic causes will know, as our moderator longchen has spoken before from personal experience.
cannot agree ,recently i read a book saying 善有善报，æ�¶æœ‰æ�¶æŠ¥ï¼Œdoes not means that u do good u will get good ,u do Bad u get bad,means u do good ,there will be good pass on to others ,not nesesary means urself .And if u do good u get good ,which contradict the è¯¸è¡Œæ— å¸¸ï¼Œwhich is one of the 三法å�°ã€‚
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we do good things not because of karma ,because it's humanity ,if a man lost his good nature,he definitely will suffer ,he will never be peaceful.There will always a bad spot on his mind,and his mind is not purified ,he can resort on the pure land.Which means you mind is pure ,the land is pure ,your mind is corupt the land is corrupt
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Originally posted by extra one:
when someone has seriously pissed u off
and i know i have pissed a lot of people offAs shown above..
It never is the cause for happiness. -
Originally posted by Bodhi hut:
Herzog_Zwei
I dun think Zarks means there is no karma, I think what he meant is we should be more focus on our doings, and do things whole heartly and not because of Karma and do the good action, these are more like thinking about oneself rather than showing compassion to others..
Personally I feel that karma exits in this world, but we should show compassion to others and not just because afriad being punish by karma and start doing all the good act...
Bodhi hut:I do understand he means that there is no karma that can affect Man's decision.