different sutras

• sEphIrOth

  16 Apr 08, 21:36

  hi, what are the different sutras for? e.g great compassion sutra and diamond sutra?

   

  and i cant get the han yu pin yin for diamond sutra...anyone has it?

   

  thanks alot.:)

• rokkie

  16 Apr 08, 22:07

  jin gang jing

• justdoit77

  17 Apr 08, 09:17

  Originally posted by sEphIrOth:

  hi, what are the different sutras for? e.g great compassion sutra and diamond sutra?

  and i cant get the han yu pin yin for diamond sutra...anyone has it?

  thanks alot.:)

  diamond sutra is é‡‘刚ç»�

  great compassion sutra I don't know.
  
  What you meant by what different sutras for?

• Bodhi hut

  17 Apr 08, 09:52

  great compassion sutra should be great compassion mantra..aka..DA BEI ZHOU

• BadzMaro

  17 Apr 08, 09:53

  i still trying to master kama de sutra .

• rokkie

  17 Apr 08, 13:05

  Originally posted by BadzMaro:

  i still trying to master kama de sutra .

  
  u mean karma sutra?

• An Eternal Now

  17 Apr 08, 13:19

  Originally posted by sEphIrOth:

  hi, what are the different sutras for? e.g great compassion sutra and diamond sutra?

   

  and i cant get the han yu pin yin for diamond sutra...anyone has it?

   

  thanks alot.:)

  There are a lot of sutras and each of them specialise on different topics.

  Diamond sutra helps you in understanding the Buddhist teachings of Emptiness (sunyata).

• sEphIrOth

  17 Apr 08, 17:50

  why when i listen to the great compassionate mantra, there are like two different chants? or did i hear wrongly?

• An Eternal Now

  17 Apr 08, 18:12

  Originally posted by sEphIrOth:

  why when i listen to the great compassionate mantra, there are like two different chants? or did i hear wrongly?

  There is the Chinese version, Sanskrit version, Tibetan version... so depends on where you hear it from.

  Maybe you can describe the two different chants a little?

• sEphIrOth

  17 Apr 08, 18:48

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgq5nllTzPI is one version

   

  this one is the other http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV-HrbZBmPI&feature=related

   

  can help me differentiate?

• An Eternal Now

  17 Apr 08, 18:51

  梵 means sanskrit. The other is the Chinese version.

• sEphIrOth

  17 Apr 08, 18:56

  how do i chant the sanskrit version? I think i feel more comfortable with it. but getting the chanting going is hard.

• An Eternal Now

  17 Apr 08, 19:05

  The last part:

  The Great Compassion Mantra (Da Bei Zhou / 大悲咒)

  Benefits in reciting and holding the Great Compassion Mantra (Da Bei Zhou / 大悲咒)

  Excerpts from The Dharani Sutra
  English translation by the Buddhist Text Translation Society, Dharma Realm Buddhist University, USA

  If humans and gods recite and hold the phrases of the Great Compassion Mantra, then when they approach the end of life, all the Buddhas of the ten directions will come to take them by the hand to rebirth in whatever Buddhaland they wish, according to their desire.

  Should any living beings who recites and holds the spiritual mantra of Great Compassion fall into the three evil paths, I vow not to realise the right enlightenment. Should any living being who recites and holds the spiritual mantra of Great Compassion not be reborn in any Buddhaland, I vow not to realise the right enlightenment. Should any living being who recites and holds the spiritual mantra of Great Compassion not obtain unlimited samadhis and eloquence, I vow not to realise the right enlightenment. Should any living being who recites and holds the spiritual mantra of Great Compassion not obtain the fruits of whatever is sought in this very life, then he cannot have been making proper use of the Dharani of the Great Compassion Heart.

  People and gods who recite and hold the Great Compassion Mantra will obtain fifteen kinds of good birth and will not suffer fifteen kinds of bad death.

  The bad deaths are:

  1. They will not die of starvation or privation.
  2. They will not die from having been yoked, imprisoned, caned or otherwise beaten.
  3. They will not die at the hands of hostile enemies.
  4. They will not be killed in military battle.
  5. They will not be killed by tigers, wolves, or other evil beasts.
  6. They will not die from the venom of poisonous snakes, black serpents, or scorpions.
  7. They will not drown or be burned to death.
  8. They will not be poisoned to death.
  9. They will not die as a result of sorcery.
  10. They will not die of madness or insanity.
  11. They will not be killed by landslides or falling trees.
  12. They will not die of nightmares sent by evil people.
  13. They will not be killed by deviant spirits or evil ghosts.
  14. They will not die of evil illnesses which bind the body.
  15. They will not commit suicide.

  Those who recite and hold the spiritual Mantra of Great Compassion will not suffer any of these fifteen kinds of bad death and will obtain the following fifteen kinds of good birth:

  1. Their place of birth will always have a good king.
  2. They will always be born in a good country.
  3. They will always be born at a good time.
  4. They will always meet good friends.
  5. The organs of their body will always be complete.
  6. Their heart will be pure and full in the way.
  7. They will not violate the prohibitive precepts.
  8. Their family will be kind and harmonious.
  9. They will always have the necessary wealth and goods in abundance.
  10. They will always obtain the respect and help of others.
  11. Their riches will not be plundered.
  12. They will obtain everything they seek.
  13. Dragons, gods, and good spirits will always protect them.
  14. In the place where they are born they will see the Buddha and hear the Dharma.
  15. They will awaken to the profound meaning of that Proper Dharma which they hear.

  Those who recite and hold the Great Compassion Mantra will obtain these fifteen kinds of good birth. All gods and people should constantly recite and hold it, without carelessness.

  Lyrics of the Great Compassion Mantra (Da Bei Zhou / 大悲咒)

  The lyrics of the Great Compassion Mantra contain the names of many Bodhisattvas. Below is the Hanyu Pinyin or Romanised Chinese character version of the Great Compassion Mantra.

  1. na mo ho la da nu do la ye ye,
  2. na mo o li ye,
  3. po lu je di sho bo la ye,
  4. pu ti sa do po ye,
  5. mo ho sa do po ye,
  6. mo ho jia lu ni jia ye,
  7. an,
  8. sa bo la fa yi,
  9. su da nu da sia,
  10. na mo si ji li do yi mung o li ye,
  11. po lu ji di, sho fo la ling to po,
  12. na mo nu la jin cho,
  13. si li mo ho po do sha me,
  14. sa po wo to do shu pung,
  15. wo si yun,
  16. sa po sa do na mo po sa do na mo po che,
  17. mo fa to do,
  18. da dzo to,
  19. an, o po lu si,
  20. lu jia di,
  21. jia lo di,
  22. i si li,
  23. mo ho pu ti sa do,
  24. sa po sa po,
  25. mo la mo la,
  26. mo si mo si li to yun,
  27. ji lu ju lu, jie mong,
  28. du lu du lu fa she ye di,
  29. mo ho fa she ye di,
  30. to la to la,
  31. di li ni,
  32. shi fo la ye,
  33. zhe la zhe la,
  34. mo mo, fa mo la,
  35. mu di li,
  36. yi si yi si,
  37. shi nu shi nu,
  38. o la son, fo la so li,
  39. fa sha fa son,
  40. fo la she ye,
  41. hu lu hu lu mo la,
  42. hu lu hu lu si li,
  43. so la so la,
  44. si li si li,
  45. su lu su lu,
  46. pu ti ye, pu ti ye,
  47. pu to ye, pu to ye,
  48. mi di li ye,
  49. nu la jin cho,
  50. di li so ni nu,
  51. po ye mo nu,
  52. so po ho,
  53. si to ye,
  54. so po ho,
  55. mo ho si to ye,
  56. so po ho,
  57. si to yu yi,
  58. shi bo la ye,
  59. so po ho,
  60. no la jin cho,
  61. so po ho,
  62. mo la nu la,
  63. so po ho,
  64. si la son o mo chi ye,
  65. so po ho,
  66. so po mo ho o si to ye,
  67. so po ho,
  68. zhe ji la o xi to ye,
  69. so po ho,
  70. bo fo mo jie si to ye,
  71. so po ho,
  72. nu la jin cho bo che la ye,
  73. so po ho,
  74. mo po li song ji la ye,
  75. so po ho,
  76. na mo ho la ta nu do la ye ye,
  77. na mo o li ye,
  78. po lu ji di,
  79. sho bo la ye,
  80. so po ho,
  81. an si den,
  82. man do la,
  83. ba to ye,
  84. so po ho.

  Below is the Sanskrit version of the Great Compassion Mantra.

  1. Namo ratnatrayaya.
  2. Namo aryavalokitesvaraya.
  3. Bodhisattvaya.
  4. Mahasattvaya.
  5. Mahakarunikaya.
  6. Om.
  7. Sarva abhayah.
  8. Sunadhasya.
  9. Namo sukrtvemama.
  10. Aryavalokitesvaragarbha.
  11. Namo nilakantha.
  12. [Siri] mahabhadrasrame.
  13. Sarvarthasubham.
  14. Ajeyam.
  15. Sarvasattvanamavarga.
  16. Mahadhatu.
  17. Tadyatha.
  18. Om avaloke.
  19. Lokite.
  20. Kalate.
  21. Hari.
  22. Mahabodhisattva.
  23. Sarva sarva.
  24. Mala mala.
  25. [Masi] Mahahrdayam.
  26. Kuru kuru karmam.
  27. [Kuru] Kuruvijayati
  28. Mahavijayati.
  29. Dharadhara.
  30. Dharin suraya.
  31. Chala chala.
  32. Mama bhramara.
  33. Muktir.
  34. Ehi ehi.
  35. Chinda chinda.
  36. Harsam prachali.
  37. Basa basam presaya.
  38. Hulu hulu mala.
  39. Hulu hulu hilo.
  40. Sara sara.
  41. Siri siri.
  42. Suru suru.
  43. Bodhiya bodhiya.
  44. Bodhaya bodhaya.
  45. Maitreya.
  46. Nilakantha.
  47. Dharsinina.
  48. Payamana svaha.
  49. Siddhaya svaha.
  50. Mahasiddhaya svaha.
  51. Siddhayogesvaraya svaha.
  52. Nilakanthasvaha.
  53. Varahananaya svaha.
  54. Simhasiramukhaya svaha.
  55. Sarvamahasiddhaya svaha.
  56. Cakrasiddhaya svaha.
  57. Padmahastaya svaha.
  58. Nilakanthavikaraya svaha.
  59. Maharsisankaraya svaha.
  60. Namo ratnatrayaya.
  61. Namo aryavalokitesvaraya svaha.
  62. Om siddhyantu.
  63. Mantrapadaya svaha.
• sEphIrOth

  17 Apr 08, 19:08

  Thanks alot. hopefully i can learn it and bring peace to myself. having a lot of stress recently and feeling horrible...

   

  i thank you for your efforts. _/|\_

• sEphIrOth

  17 Apr 08, 19:10

  but i think the sanskrit version diff from the song in the 2nd link rite?

• sEphIrOth

  17 Apr 08, 19:24

  i found this

   

  namo ratna trayaya,

  namo aryajana,

  sakara,

  bayrotsana,

  bayuharadzaya tahtagataya,

  arahatay,

  samyaksam buddhaya,

  namo sarwa tatha gatay,

  bay arhaybay,

  samyaksam buddhaybay,

  namo arya awalokitay,

  sharaya bodhisatoya,

  mahasatoya,

  mahakarunikaya,

  tayata omdhara dhara,

  dhiri dhiri,

  dhuru dhuru,

  itay witai tsalay tsalay,

  tratsalay tratsalay,

  kusumay kusumawa,

  ray ilimili tsiti,

  dzola mapanaya soha.
• An Eternal Now

  17 Apr 08, 19:41

   

  namo ratna trayaya/ namo arya gyana sagara/ berotsana buha radzaya/ tatagataya/ arhate/ samyaksam buddhaya/ namo sarwa tatagatebhye/ arhatebhye/ samyaksam buddhebhye/ namo arya awalokite/ shoraya/ bodhi satoya/ maha satoya/ maha karunikaya/ tayata/ om/ dara dara/ diri diri/ duru duru/ itte wate/ tsale tsale/ partsale partsale/ kusume kusume ware/ ihli mili/ tsiti dzola/ ahpanaye soha/

  The one you heard in youtube (the sanskrit one) turns out to be Ārya Ek�daśa-mukha Dh�raṇĩ �一�觀自在�薩心密言

  Which is actually not the same as the Nīlakaṇṭha Dh�raṇī or Da Bei Zhou.

  But it is also another mantra of Avalokitesvara/Guan Yin.

• sEphIrOth

  17 Apr 08, 19:45

  oh thanks! thats why i was wondering whats so different. now i m practising it...but actually i prefer to understand the concepts.... but thanks alot.... i m researching on the concepts of the sutra.

   

  care to enlighten me on what is it about?

• An Eternal Now

  17 Apr 08, 19:53

  Originally posted by sEphIrOth:

  oh thanks! thats why i was wondering whats so different. now i m practising it...but actually i prefer to understand the concepts.... but thanks alot.... i m researching on the concepts of the sutra.

   

  care to enlighten me on what is it about?

  Mantras are the only thing not translated in Buddhism because the syllables have a divine quality, and it is not so useful as to 'understand the content' of the mantra -- when one chant, simply chant with sincere and one-pointedness. Always remain mindfulness/awareness of your chanting and not be distracted. Don't give rise to thoughts, not even try to interprete what you chant. The chanting transcends all meanings and words, the first thing you must experience in the chanting is going beyond all symbols, words, meanings, all contents of your thoughts. Then the mantra is effective.

• An Eternal Now

  17 Apr 08, 19:55

  BTW regarding this particular mantra, I think initiation from a qualified guru may be necessary. I have to help you ask.

  Da Bei Zhou however requires no initiation.

• sEphIrOth

  17 Apr 08, 20:24

  what is an initiation?

• An Eternal Now

  17 Apr 08, 20:26

  Kyabje Kalu Rinpoche, who served for many years as the Chief of Meditation of the Kagyu denomination explained, in his Gently Whispered (New York: Station Hill, 1994):
  
  "Most tantrayana or vajrarana visualization and mantra practices require that an initiation and subsequent authorization and instruction be given by a qualified lama before the sadhana, or ritual practice, can begin. 

  However, a few practices, those that were given publicly by Lord Buddha Shakyamuni, do not fall under such restrictions. Very definitely, all the practices given in the Sutras have the full blessing of the Buddha and therefore can be practiced if one has the aspiration to do so. Such practices include those of the noble Chenrezig and of the mother of the buddhas, Green Tara. Naturally, whenever it is possible for you to take the vajrayana initiation of Chenrezig or Green Tara, you are encouraged to do so. 

  Right now, however, the practice in which I am giving you instruction can be practiced straight away, due wholly to the blessing of Buddha Shakyamuni. When you finally do get around to receiving the Chenrezig initiation, it will deepen your practice and strengthen your connection with your tsaway [root] lama and with Yidam Chenrezig." 

  The book, whose title appears at the start of this quotation, has a complete sadhana of Chenrezi.

• An Eternal Now

  17 Apr 08, 20:27

  Since Ä€rya EkÄ�daÅ›a-mukha DhÄ�raṇĩ  is a Chenrezig/Avalokitesvara practice, it may require no initiation.

  But, I have not confirmed.

  Many tantric practices/visualizations/mantras require an initiation by a master.

  Personally, I do not practice tantra or vajrayana.

• sEphIrOth

  17 Apr 08, 21:13

  what is tantra or vajrayana if i may ask?

• Bodhi hut

  17 Apr 08, 21:36

  sEphIrOth

   

  大悲咒...is in 梵文..the chinese one u see is for people who do not read hanyu pinyin...大悲咒..is the long mantra for om ma ni ped me hum...and it is related to 观音 Kwan yin..or in tibetan buddhism è—�密 Chenrezig/Avalokitesvara ..it can be consider è§‚音法门...before you read  å¤§æ‚²å’’, there are quite a number of short mantra you need to recite before reciting 大悲咒, that is the correct way...I recite this mantra very very often...大悲咒 has 大悲咒手å�° too...I have a online video clip on the benefit of reciting 大悲咒...in my forum..i will paste the links on this mantra here...i seen you have joined...you may understand more on this..

   

  There are many mantras around..but you need a master to impart you..meaning you have to go through the 密宗。。�顶..as in 密宗vajrayana, you need a good master to teach you, self learning may go to the wrong way..currently i am learning from a master..密宗vajrayana practise are focusing on three elements..身，�，�。。。and the top practise is 瑜�三修法。。 i hava a very good article on buddhism..if you want to read..PM me your email address i send to you...it covers many aspect..but in chinese 28pages..

  大悲咒

  http://bodhihut.17.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=22

  大悲咒手� The Great Compassion mudra

  http://bodhihut.17.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=779

   

  大悲咒修�法与功德利益

  http://bodhihut.17.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=1913#1913

   

  大悲咒功德利益 Video Clip - 海涛法师

  http://bodhihut.17.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=829